Sharpened art knives???

Lorien said:
would we agree on calling it an 'Art Knife'?
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Yes just as we have art sculptures of "The Boxer at rest" we have an art sculpture of a "Black Swan Art Dagger"
 
ok, so it is a knife, even though it does not have, and likely never will have, a sharpened edge?
 
Lorien said:
ok, so it is a knife, even though it does not have, and likely never will have, a sharpened edge?
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Yes, it is an unfinished knife.

It could be a finished knife but the creator chose fashion over function
 
This is an interesting example. It appears in the video that the edge might be around 0.03" thick.
If that's true, then it is not just "not sharpened", but if one were to want to sharpen it, it would first need further grinding of the bevels.
Still amazing art.
 
AVigil said:
Yes, it is an unfinished knife.

It could be a finished knife but the creator chose fashion over function
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to my point earlier, there can be a function to an unsharpened edge when a knife is intended by its creator to be 'art'. I think most people who saw it would describe what they saw as a knife, as opposed to a sculpture.

anyone who saw it in person and handled it would likely still describe it as a knife. If they noticed that it was unsharpened, the questions that come after are likely where the art comes into play.

maybe I'm thinking of it wrong. But I can't help but picture silkscreen prints of cans of soup, or a bicycle fork and front wheel mounted upside down to a stool, a spiral jetty made from rocks, or a urinal mounted to a wall... taking everyday items and contextualizing them in a way that causes something strange to happen in the mind. To open doors of some kind.

I personally like knives because they're sharp. However, I greatly respect anyone who can take such a universal form and turn it into something 'more'.
 
Richard338 said:
This is an interesting example. It appears in the video that the edge might be around 0.03" thick.
If that's true, then it is not just "not sharpened", but if one were to want to sharpen it, it would first need further grinding of the bevels.
Still amazing art.
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that is what I thought was very interesting and why I mentioned not even a convexing to indicate the start of an edge. I’m sure many daggers are ground very very thin on the sides and might not need any convexing to sharpen. This one is different. It was very clearly shown that the edge is squared off (.02-.03 thick most likely)indicating that there is 0 intention of it ever being capable of having an edge. if anyone was to try to sharpen it, it would ruin it completely or at least require hours of fixing. A very interesting choice. I wonder if it has to do with the worth of the knife for the future as well and the aftermarket. The knife would most likely always stay in mint condition since it can’t even be used to cut paper right.
 
The dagger was clearly made as an art piece. It was never intended to be sharpened, therefore in a practical sense it is not a knife. But that again is the grey area. Because a dagger is a stabbing tool, not a cutting tool (primarily). In this context it is an actual functioning dagger....in addition to being an art piece. Beautiful piece but it looks like it weighs a ton.
 
i4Marc said:
The dagger was clearly made as an art piece. It was never intended to be sharpened, therefore in a practical sense it is not a knife. But that again is the grey area. Because a dagger is a stabbing tool, not a cutting tool (primarily). In this context it is an actual functioning dagger....in addition to being an art piece. Beautiful piece but it looks like it weighs a ton.
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Yes art piece. That’s what I was referring to at the start of this. I’m not talking knives worth $0-2k that were very well done and beautiful so people call them artistic. I’m talking $10,20,30,40k true art knives
 
Yes, knives need to be sharpened IMO regardless whether a user or an art knife.
Exception would be a knife that's made for a specific purpose that benefits from blade not being sharp. An oyster knife would be an example.

When I judge knives at shows I'm not only checking to insure knife is sharp but also the quality of sharpening. Even judging customs at Blade show I don't ever remember inspecting a knife that wasn't sharpened to at least some degree.
 
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