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Bigfattyt

Bigfattyt

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I have had people tell me over and again that carrying a knife is illegal. I am so tire of hearing people say "that is illegal!" Or you are going to get arrested.

But tonight I was at a store. Bought a toy for my 3 year old kid, and walking out, noticed it was broken. Took it back to the customer service center, and exchanged it for a working one. My kid asked me to help him open it. It was held in with really heavy zip ties, I took out my GW and sliced them off and handed him the toy. The employee behind the counter said "I am pretending I did not see that!"

HMM I thought, am I not supposed to open it in the store? I asked her what she meant. She said "you are scaring the cashiers". I was there with my wife, and my 3 year old son happily playing with the new toy. I supposed we made and imposing group of street thugs.

You can't get much more sheeple friendly than the GW. Good thing I left the SS in the car, or was not carrying a taticool folder or something. I carry a convexed old Recon1 (although not as much recently).

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I was thinking on the way home, there is a statute in WA that allows for criminal charge if anyone is scared by a knife you are carrying (or anything that appears capable of causing bodily harm and causes them alarm).

That store employee who peed her pants when I used a 3 inch blade could have called the cops on me, and if the police did not like me, they could have arrested me.
 
oddly, people are more offended (read: scared) of a knife than of a gun.

i almost had to draw down on a guy attacking another with a knife (irony) while off duty. shirt lifted, weapon gripped, no one really said anything when on duty officers showed up.

guess they just suspected i was a cop, but i half expected someone to scream and everyone to start running away.

think it has something to do with the "up close and personal" nature of a knife.

who knows, but understanding this about the human psyche, i make every attempt not to take out my knives in public. not saying you did anything wrong (im not familiar with the laws in your area), just a perspective from the other side.



of course, perhaps it was the YA YA YA!!! bellowing you were doing as you murdered that poor plastic blister packaging.
 
People should mind their own damn business. That would really piss me of. I would have calmly explained that she should think before opening her pie hole.
 
Wow, I'm speachless. Has the world really become so paranoid. A knife is a tool that has been used by man since the dawn of civilization. The only thing that would predate it is a rock used a hammer. Knives are no more responsible for violence and death then spoons are responsible for making Rosey O'Donnell fat.
I'm very sorry to hear that you had such an experience like that. Even more sorry to hear that this is the direction society is going.
 
Oh, the HORRORS!!!!!!!!!!! ...You criminal! How dare you use a knife to cut zip ties to make your child happy! Don't you have TEETH????



:p :D:D:D ;)


...I was in a meeting filled with people that I know well, and that know me well for years. The meeting was held around and including the lunch hour, and so sandwiches & chips were served during a break. The darn bag of chips would not open even under considerable force, so instead of pushing it to the point of exploding potato chips everywhere, I calmly pulled out my EDC folder, an XM-18, opened it 2-handed style, and proceeded to cut open the top of the bag. A woman on the other side of the table recoiled in horror and asked what I was doing with that "huge" knife. Huge??? LOL ...The way she reacted, you'd have though that I had jumped up on the table and while brandishing it about, threatened her life or something. She knows me, knows that I'm not a violent person, but boy that knife really caused a stir :rolleyes::D ...I calmly said that she should see the knife I had in my truck!! (Busse HOGFSHLE) lolz
 
BIGBEAR said:
Knives are no more responsible for violence and death then spoons are responsible for making Rosey O'Donnell fat.
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Now that's freakin' funny!!

I have been seeing an awful lot of these threads lately. I'm not judging you in any way, but I can't say that I recall ever whipping out a knife to open up a blister pack in front of the cashiers. I at least wait until I get in the parking lot.

Knives, guns, booze, and women...a little common sense goes a long way.
 
The thing that makes it even funnier, is that that store sells guns, ammo, and a bunch of knives.

I see employees there all the time with knife clips hanging off of pockets. And most of them have box cutters on their belts as well.


I was pretty subtle about cutting the zip ties. I could understand if I had jumped up on the counter, yanked the GW out, raised it above my head, gleaming in the bright light, and shouted "By the power of Grayskull, I have the Power" right before stabbing and slashing the hell out of the package.

What I actually did was to take the knife quitely out, and with my finger along the blade (so only a tiny sliver of edge is even visible) quickly pop both zip ties off at waist level, and slip the knife back in the sheath. The knife was actually going back in the sheath as she was making her brainless comment.


But, at least she did not say "that is illegal"
 
My 19 year old son honestly carries his NMFBM almost where ever he goes in a chuddy bear dangler sheath. My wife is uncomfortable with it to some degree because he does get some looks (at the grocery store). I however am chest sticking out PROUD! In fact tonight he went to a movie with a friend that made fun of him because he changed up the NMFBM for the Bear Cub.
 
Idaho Jarhead said:
Now that's freakin' funny!!

I have been seeing an awful lot of these threads lately. I'm not judging you in any way, but I can't say that I recall ever whipping out a knife to open up a blister pack in front of the cashiers. I at least wait until I get in the parking lot.

Knives, guns, booze, and women...a little common sense goes a long way.
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I was not in the check out line, I was in the customer service dept. The first toy was broken and not working. The cashier had told me to check to make sure the second toy was not broken, and worked. I had already had to come back in once, I was not about to walk all the way out of the store, and sneak into some dark secluded spot to secretly open the package so as not to scare Little Miss Muffet. She did not proffer any type of cutting instrument with which to free said item from the grip-o-death zip ties, and the zip ties were about the same thickness as the kind LE's use to restrain people in riots (which was way overdone, as the toy was so cheap, no one would even think of stealing it).

It is not like I was in Victoria's Secret slashing price tags off of thongs either. The store has an extensive sporting goods section, including guns, ammo, knives, camping gear.

Game Wardens are tiny knives.
 
Well hell...if she told you to open it on the spot she should have expected some kind of sharp object to be presented. (especially in a sporting goods store)
 
BIG MATT said:
My 19 year old son honestly carries his NMFBM almost where ever he goes in a chuddy bear dangler sheath. My wife is uncomfortable with it to some degree because he does get some looks (at the grocery store). I however am chest sticking out PROUD! In fact tonight he went to a movie with a friend that made fun of him because he changed up the NMFBM for the Bear Cub.
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Sounds like my type of town! Usually if you have some sort of reason for carrying the knife, and you are not crazy looking, no one will accost you.


But really, I have seen cops in more than one State grab some teenager (usually either in camo or all black) walking around with a large hog-leg (usually a super crappy rambo knock off, frost cutlery looking bowie), strapped to their waist, and make them go put it away.

Tons of people where I live have CCW permits. My brother and his friend were eating at a place, where there are almost always a couple of cops (it is near the freeway, and serves good food all night long). It was early evening. My brother's friend had his pistol in his inside the waist band holster. He walked over to the rest room, and passed a table full of cops eating. When he went back and sat down, like 9 cops jumped all over him and my brother with guns drawn. Took them down, yelling obscenities, don't move, etc. Cuffed both of them, and searched them. Took out the gun and asked what he though he was doing with it, was he going to rob the joint, who was he planning on shooting etc.

One of the cops had noticed the gun (either printing, or it might have peeped out when he got up out of the booth)

After explaining that he, in fact had the permit to carry in the wallet they had already removed from his pocket, they threatened to charge him anyway, but for displaying the weapon and disturbing the peace etc.

The cops went back and ate their dinner like nothing had happened. They had not all just drawn down on, tackled, cuffed, searched, and spilled the dinner of my brother and his friend (all the while dropping F bombs at the top of their lungs).

No apology to my brother, or friend. Nor did they apologize to any one else in the diner.

You never can predict the reaction you will get from police officers in a situation where they either think you are armed, or can see that you are armed.
 
Zip ties during Xmas, birthdays are the bane of me. Untying the wire ones are a b****! Just better to have pair of tin snips. Easily five to ten minutes on some of them to make sure you got rid of it all.

The manufacture could save a lot on purchasing the wire and the man hours it takes to secure it like some zombie waiting to come to life.
 
Idaho Jarhead said:
Well hell...if she told you to open it on the spot she should have expected some kind of sharp object to be presented. (especially in a sporting goods store)
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That was what surprised me so much. I wondered if she though I was going to cut those zip ties with harsh words, or my sharp glances?
 
It's a funny world we live in. You can't even bust out an innocent box cutter anymore without someone thinking "terrorist". :thumbdn:
 
It was actually a very comical wrap job. The toy it's self was a cheesy light up wand thing, with a blinking shiny star at the top. I did not see how much it was, but I guarantee it was no more than $2 tops. You know, the kind of thing they put right at 3 year old eye level, at check out where the kid can stare at it for the 10 minutes it takes you to get checked out. The zip ties (they were actual honest to goodness heavy zip ties, not the twisted wire with plastic coatings) were nicer than the toy.
 
Bigfattyt said:
That was what surprised me so much. I wondered if she though I was going to cut those zip ties with harsh words, or my sharp glances?
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Too many workers these days are not thoughtful nor competent. The bare minimum.... Sounds like she wanted to put you through the paces just to be sadistic.

Kinda funny though, wish I could have seen her face:D
 
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