Sheeple!

I'm convinced that if more people carried knives and we were still allowed to carry them on planes, it would be hard to hijack one with a boxcutter. If the 9-11 hijackers had tried to grab a plane flying out of the South(even Atlanta), they would have been field dressed before they got to the cockpit.
 
on_the_edge said:
I am not sure what the danger is here that you are referring to. Of course, there are many dangers and it is not wise to dump unspent ammo in a garbage can for any reason. But the mention of fire has me believing that you think bullets might be flying randomly as if shot out of a gun.

I don't know which is right. Maybe Myth Busters could tackle that one. I'd be interested to know for sure.
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Rounds cooking off do several things. They make loud banging (almost as if some one was shooting a gun, go figure). Scare the hell out of everyone. Blow flaming trash ever where (rife sized rounds tend to have a lot of energy stored inside).

The bullet does not tend to go flying supersonic, but the cases do explode apart sending hot brass fragments flying. If you have ever heard rounds cook off, the zipping sound of flying spinning brass lets me know I don't want to be any where near it.

also if you have ever seen a bullet pulled, and the end of the case crimped around a fuse, and lit, they really go flying (I don't recommend any one do this ever, you can loose you hand, or eye or worse, I was a lot younger and dumber back then). Rifle primers alone have enough energy to blow you fingers off if one goes off in your hand. Add the power and there is quite a bit of energy contained there (as evidenced by the ability to send a heavy piece of lead instantly supersonic)

I would hate some one to loose an eye to a hot piece of brass, or other flaming trash.

Not likely going to kill any one unless you are really unlucky.

if I remember correctly, Myth busters did do a myth. The myth was that some one had a fuse burn out, and used live 22 ammo as the fuse. It worked enough to actually make the connection. They got some to cook off. If I remember, they had some serious injury to the ballistics gel dummy, one might have been enough to be fatal, and that was with a .22 round, not a centerfire rifle round. (I could be wrong).
 
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I switch up carrying either my Ratweiler or my HOGFSH to work. I work in the sheoples republic of Davis in Kalifornia. I love walking into Peet's coffee in the morning and ordering a mocha. Sheople are entertaining, but dangerous at polling places...
 
Ah, it seems that I am once again happy to be in Arizona even if it is so hot satan has a pool.

My wife and I were eating at an upscale steak, rib, seafood restaurant the other night and the knife that I was brought to cut the steak with was, at best, suited for soft bread. My wife got sick of watching me hack through the thing so she whipped out her griptillian and told me to use it before I passed out from exhaustion. Anyway, the manager showed up and apologized profusely that their knife was too dull to use and comped the dessert.

It's all in the perception, I guess.
 
Cpl Punishment said:
I have been seeing an awful lot of these responses to threads like this lately. I'm not judging you in any way, but this is part of the problem. It is not "common" sense to keep a knife, especially a small one, hidden.
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I disagree. If you want to carry a knife and make a statement, by all means wear your FFBM on your hip in a dangler sheath around town. On the other hand if you want to carry a knife because it's a useful tool, recognize that strangers can't tell by looking at you that you're a responsible knife owner and not a lunatic, and keep your knife out of sight.

In my casual clothes I EDC a Leatherman TTi, which is not only an outstanding tool for a variety of tasks like opening packaging, but is very inocuous since many contractors and tradesmen EDC similar items and it's easily recognizable as a tool by the average person. Don't forget that visually, even a small Busse is a lot more knife than most people see in their day-to-day lives (things like black blades and bright orange scales don't exactly help), so don't be surprised if a few alarm bells go off in people's heads when you pull it out in a crowded store full of little kids.
 
Hauser said:
I disagree. If you want to carry a knife and make a statement, by all means wear your FFBM on your hip in a dangler sheath around town. On the other hand if you want to carry a knife because it's a useful tool, recognize that strangers can't tell by looking at you that you're a responsible knife owner and not a lunatic, and keep your knife out of sight.
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1.) I never said I walk around whipping out a battle mistress (although I have gone into Wally World several times with a RAT-7 with no comments being made.
2.) Why should they worry if I'm a lunatic or not? When I was growing up, damn near everyone had a belt knife, I don't remember anyone ever saying "I wonder if he's a lunatic".
3.) Would you consider a BAD to be "more knife than most people see in their day-to-day lives"? If so, why don't they quake in fear at the sight of a Buck 110 (which is bigger)? I think the blade on my Gerber multitool is the same length as the BAD.
4.) If people were used to others carrying knives, they wouldn't pee themselves when they see one.
5.) Generally speaking, when one plans nefarious deeds with a knife, they keep it concealed, not on their belt.
6.) I got back from the pharmacy where I assisted the girl at the counter open the packaging on my test lancets (the packaging changed and we wanted to be sure they were the right ones) with a BAD. Reaction? "Cool sheath, where did you get it?" Seems some girls aren't as afraid as some men. I could give other examples of comparing knives with nurses and the HR lady at work, but I'd probably be called a liar.
7.) Call it making a show if you want, but there's no reason that if I'm going to "carry a knife because it's a useful tool", then there's NO reason it shouldn't be handy -- whether a folder, a BAD or a flippin FFBM if you feel the need to hyperbolize. :D

Lycosa said:
"Conceal your strength." :)
Old wisdom.
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My concealed strength would be my Glock 21.
While everyone is wetting themselves over my 3.5" long knife, they won't even look for it.

Old wisdom. New gun.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
oddly, people are more offended (read: scared) of a knife than of a gun.

i almost had to draw down on a guy attacking another with a knife (irony) while off duty. shirt lifted, weapon gripped, no one really said anything when on duty officers showed up.

guess they just suspected i was a cop, but i half expected someone to scream and everyone to start running away.

think it has something to do with the "up close and personal" nature of a knife.

who knows, but understanding this about the human psyche, i make every attempt not to take out my knives in public. not saying you did anything wrong (im not familiar with the laws in your area), just a perspective from the other side.



of course, perhaps it was the YA YA YA!!! bellowing you were doing as you murdered that poor plastic blister packaging.
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Mark,
Maybe all of the employees had to watch "Surviving Edged Weapons" as their intro to working there :confused: :rolleyes: :D LOL
 
I've been drinking in a bar for 13 years, since they opened. I do knife deals in there early in the day, 4:30-6:00, no problems. The owner and workers there have purchased various small folders from me in the past. They get a new bartender and he sees me showing a guy, actually a Marine, my SRKW Swamp Warden, not on the bar, below the bar and he darts from behind the bar and shrieks, "Is that a knife? That's illegal! Get out! Both of you are banned for life!" The owner says not to worry I can come back I just have to leave the knives outside. Normally I would consider this a reasonable request but why would I want drink somewhere with a sheeple bartender who has it in for me. There are plenty of places to have a beer with friends where I don't have to kiss the bartender's ass. I began visiting another bar with 90 beers on tap and real pretty waitstaff and at midnight one night there are three of us guys, just met at the bar, with 5 or 6 knifes on the bar, an auto included, and the bartenders, guys and girls, are all over us... checking out the cool blades. It's obvious we are not violent, we're not 'brandishing' a deadly weapon in public and it's really fun to see a young girl squeal in excitement when she kicks open her first OTF auto. OK, bringing out the auto was probably not the brightest thing to do but we put all of our toys away and did Tequila shots with the bartenders and partied on. I can't say that the bar is 'sheeple free' but the bladed ones were among friends that night and I don't have to kiss ass to have a cold one. A years ago or so I had given one of the guys an Atwood flat Titanium Prybaby as a tip, he's 6'-5" and I learned a long time ago to buy a drink for the biggest meanest looking MF in the place the first time you go there, it might pay off in the end. Don't try this at home, I am a professional Rowdy Redneck-at-Large.
 
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In the mid seventies my brother at least 1 friend and I would walk through town on weekends going to our grandparents on the outskirts with a 22lr and a 12g dbl. (no cases) and an assortment of large knives. When we had money we would even bring them into Mc Donalds for breakfast and never had one person say anything. On our way home (dinner time) if it was crowded 1 of us would wait outside with the guns. We did this a dozen or more times. This was when 4 burgers were $1. That Mc Ds is long gone but I can only imagine the scene it would cause now.....Probably the S.W.A.T. team. Times don't change people do.
 
i got the best reaction on carrying a knife in a store.
i wanted to check upon a briefcase (think pelicase knockoff).
however the case was in a cardboard box with allot of tape on it.

the man behind the desk could nog open it with his and started calling for a pair of scissors, i just said, i got a knife if it helps, calmly tok out my Microtec mini socom elite and cut the tape.

i got some looks from the peolpe standing around but the cashier just smiled and said, it's nice to see that someone is prepared.

and people in Sweden is usually scared to death about knives.
my classmates and friends is pretty used to it now but at first they kind of gave me the
"are you a serial killer look"
 
It's all the way you where brought up. As kids we had a trap line. Not many of todays kids can say that. we walked thru upper class neighborhoods to get to the stream and woods with .22's. My kids can not do that anymore. Knives where not a concern. Some people would say that is a good thing . I think that it is sad, nowadays most kids walk around with there pants around there knees and sit inside playing video games all the time I think that is sad
 
JParanee said:
It's all the way you where brought up. As kids we had a trap line. Not many of todays kids can say that. we walked thru upper class neighborhoods to get to the stream and woods with .22's. My kids can not do that anymore. Knives where not a concern. Some people would say that is a good thing . I think that it is sad, nowadays most kids walk around with there pants around there knees and sit inside playing video games all the time I think that is sad
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I totally agree. Back in the day, I don't remember all the hype about having a knife. As mentioned many times here, a knife is just a tool, like any other. Hubby and I go to a private club twice monthly for pizza night. I always have a folding Gerber in my purse which is my pizza cutter. If I had a Rat Trap, or Busse folder.... Well, that's another thread!!
 
HeadKicker said:
I am about to board a flight....armed as a federal LEO. I have already made all notifications and am anticipating pre-boarding when I heard my named called. I was summoned by TSA for secondary searching. I go to their table and they ask for my rucksack. As I put it on the table, I ask them what they are looking for. Surprised that I would talk directly to them, she says "prohibited items".

I tell her that she will find plenty of those in there and place my LEO paperwork on the table in front of her. I have zero doubt that she had never seen that paperwork, or knew what it was. She conducts her search and finds a Busse AD, and extra magazines. When I point out to her that I am an armed passenger on the flight, she says well you cannot bring aboard the knife. It is a "prohibited item". I ask her if Glock pistols are prohibited and she curiously looks at me and says "yes, but you can carry that because of your occupation". I give her my most aggressive whisper, saying I am carrying a Glock pistol and my knife stays with me. After minutes of private meetings with her associates, I was alowed to proceed.
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i mean my issue is not so much that they were worried about the knife as wtf would they call you up there for a 2nd security check to draw attention to yourself as the armed person on bored the plane. i mean i think they should have known who you were and not caused unnecessary attention to you.
 
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