Shirogorov prices

SharpieB said:
Quartz as in with a battery? Nope. Mine is perpetual (automatic?) like a Rolex. I am not a big dude, so the smaller face is perfect for me. Basically the size of a Rolex date or day/date. The bigger one is more like a Submariner size.
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Ah. Yeah the one I was after was battery operated, 3k sounds like a great price for an automatic.

I don't own or wear a watch currently, so I liked the idea of not losing the time if I didn't wear it. I heard the quartz are less susceptible to bone headed drops/bumps.

Not to derail the thread too much..

I vote for shirogorov to drop their pricing, retain current quality and raise availability and warranty service in USA while I'm at it.
 
marcus52AR said:
Ah. Yeah the one I was after was battery operated, 3k sounds like a great price for an automatic.

I don't own or wear a watch currently, so I liked the idea of not losing the time if I didn't wear it. I heard the quartz are less susceptible to bone headed drops/bumps.

Not to derail the thread too much..

I vote for shirogorov to drop their pricing, retain current quality and raise availability and warranty service in USA while I'm at it.
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I’ll second that
 
At what point is one high quality machined knife much much better than another? it can only go so far,i cant see one being so much better than another as far as fit finish ; crk vs shiro as an example.To pay about twice a sebenza or zaan cost your not getting twice the knife......
 
ourgon said:
If I'm drinking, I drink beer only. ;)
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Speaking of beer, last night my dumbass 22 year old son added another reason to my list why I will never own a Shiro or any other $500+ knife....

I was using my new ZT0620 in the kitchen to cut some food while having a nice tallboy of local IPA. My son asked “dad, will this knife cut thru that beer can?” Of course, I said yes and he proceeded to cut it in half before I could do anything about it. He scratched the shit out of the black coated blade. Not a big deal as it is a $150 knife that is only still mint as it is winter here and I haven’t done much hard cutting with it yet, but I would have fainted if it was a $1000 knife. :eek:
 
SharpieB said:
Speaking of beer, last night my dumbass 22 year old son added another reason to my list why I will never own a Shiro or any other $500+ knife....

I was using my new ZT0620 in the kitchen to cut some food while having a nice tallboy of local IPA. My son asked “dad, will this knife cut thru that beer can?” Of course, I said yes and he proceeded to cut it in half before I could do anything about it. He scratched the shit out of the black coated blade. Not a big deal as it is a $150 knife that is only still mint as it is winter here and I haven’t done much hard cutting with it yet, but I would have fainted if it was a $1000 knife. :eek:
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Emersons look better scratched mate!
 
One of my custom pool cues was well over $4000. Hand made and absolutely gorgeous.
I have used that cue for the last 5 years every time I played.....which is a lot!! Hits like a dream.
No safe queens for me either, knives, watches, cues or crazy high end air rifles.
Am I nuts spending over $1,500 on a BB gun?? Yup!!
You like a Shiro?? Buy the bitch!!
Joe
 
palonej said:
One of my custom pool cues was well over $4000. Hand made and absolutely gorgeous.
I have used that cue for the last 5 years every time I played.....which is a lot!! Hits like a dream.
No safe queens for me either, knives, watches, cues or crazy high end air rifles.
Am I nuts spending over $1,500 on a BB gun?? Yup!!
You like a Shiro?? Buy the bitch!!
Joe
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That must be one hell of a cue!

I paid almost $10k for a guitar and I use it all the time in dumpy bars to make $100-150 a night. I take care of it though and even after 5 years of use, it still looks like new. All of my knives get used and none of them will look like new for long, so that is why I will likely not spend more than a few hundred bucks on a knife.

$1000 for a Shiro is a much smarter purchase than an oz of blow, a plastic single knuck thingy or a losing night at the casino IMO, so I agree about buying that bitch if it makes one happy! :thumbsup:
 
For me my near 1000e (got it cheaper because of my "connections") watch and 500e manpurse were expensive buys and it took long for me to pull the trigger for both but they both were absolute hits - definite keepers (both carried exclusively, daily for years)! I haven't found out anything yet in that price range for knife that I could justify though. I can't see it as impossible though.
 
palonej said:
One of my custom pool cues was well over $4000. Hand made and absolutely gorgeous.
I have used that cue for the last 5 years every time I played.....which is a lot!! Hits like a dream.
No safe queens for me either, knives, watches, cues or crazy high end air rifles.
Am I nuts spending over $1,500 on a BB gun?? Yup!!
You like a Shiro?? Buy the bitch!!
Joe
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I saw your air arms rifles you posted in rifles and knives; id hardly call them bb guns those guns were insane! Never knew a pool cue can run 4 grand.....
 
goldie said:
I saw your air arms rifles you posted in rifles and knives; id hardly call them bb guns those guns were insane! Never knew a pool cue can run 4 grand.....
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$4000 is ‘mid’ for a custom.
They just keep going up!!
Yeah, those rifles are so accurate it’s hard to explain!
Thanks!
Joe
 
SharpieB said:
Speaking of beer, last night my dumbass 22 year old son added another reason to my list why I will never own a Shiro or any other $500+ knife....

I was using my new ZT0620 in the kitchen to cut some food while having a nice tallboy of local IPA. My son asked “dad, will this knife cut thru that beer can?” Of course, I said yes and he proceeded to cut it in half before I could do anything about it. He scratched the shit out of the black coated blade. Not a big deal as it is a $150 knife that is only still mint as it is winter here and I haven’t done much hard cutting with it yet, but I would have fainted if it was a $1000 knife. :eek:
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In case you were wondering both cut cans very well
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Top hole is the ZT, bottom is the Shirogorov as is the cut around the can.

The ZT is maybe a little easier as the blade is thicker
 
IMO Shiros are “worth” their cost. It is not possible to make a finer machined knife. I sold mine because I find other knives more “valuable.” I would rather have a Sebenza and an XM18 than one Shiro. But I’d rather have one Sebenza than 5 cheaper knives. Go figure.
 
SharpieB said:
Speaking of beer, last night my dumbass 22 year old son added another reason to my list why I will never own a Shiro or any other $500+ knife....

I was using my new ZT0620 in the kitchen to cut some food while having a nice tallboy of local IPA. My son asked “dad, will this knife cut thru that beer can?” Of course, I said yes and he proceeded to cut it in half before I could do anything about it. He scratched the shit out of the black coated blade. Not a big deal as it is a $150 knife that is only still mint as it is winter here and I haven’t done much hard cutting with it yet, but I would have fainted if it was a $1000 knife. :eek:
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Yeah, it is understandable for a 15 year old to not understand respecting others stuff... oh, 22. That deserves a good Gibbs back head slap.
 
This comes up in every shiro thread. My opinion as someone who has owned 3-4 of both shiro and CRK. Every single shiro had better fit and finish. Nothing wrong with either. Pricing may vary. But that was my observation.
 
Mick_1KRR said:
Rubbish. A few levels higher than CRK? please...the screws are garbage, threads too large and length of threaded area is too short to allow for fine adjustment, as well as being too short making it easy to come loose. The lock bar insert is "stepped" so it can only wear in a certain amount until the tang hits the lock bar frame and if it ever did = lock rock. They are CNC nice looking well put together knives, but please don't spout such garbage about them being levels higher than CRK. I've handled, used pulled apart and fixed pivot issues on shiros and seen it first hand. So much hype train. As with most things surrounding knives, it's good marketing.
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The lockbar issue is annoying however it seems they want you to send in your knife to get warrantied. Defeats the point of a lockbar insert though I agree. The length of the threading on the actual screw doesn't prevent fine adjustments, its the length of the screw. Of which there really isn't a problem because I get a good 5-6 revolutions in before I start to feel some resistance. Also you sure the threading's thick? Here's my F95 put up against a 21 screw. If you ask me I'd say the 21's thicker:

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Yea...you're just getting a lot more machining time and design going into a Shirogorov, and to be honest a bunch of other knives compared to a CRK. Doesn't mean the CRK is bad, and I love mine but the money's going somewhere. You can probably put a few dollars of that coming from the fact that there's only one retailer in the United States, and they can price it at whatever they like.

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mikomonday said:
The lockbar issue is annoying however it seems they want you to send in your knife to get warrantied. Defeats the point of a lockbar insert though I agree. The length of the threading on the actual screw doesn't prevent fine adjustments, its the length of the screw. Of which there really isn't a problem because I get a good 5-6 revolutions in before I start to feel some resistance. Also you sure the threading's thick? Here's my F95 put up against a 21 screw. If you ask me I'd say the 21's thicker:

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Yea...you're just getting a lot more machining time and design going into a Shirogorov, and to be honest a bunch of other knives compared to a CRK. Doesn't mean the CRK is bad, and I love mine but the money's going somewhere. You can probably put a few dollars of that coming from the fact that there's only one retailer in the United States, and they can price it at whatever they like.

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It's actually not only the length of the screw but the design of the threading. A thread with a much less steep angle of incline or decline will move much smaller distances than a thread that is shorter with a greater angle, just the simple nature of threading. The shiros i've handled just don't feel to have as tight a threading fitment across the range of motion that it's thread design has. Not the end of the world, but i just expected a better threading design on the shiro for such a price.

And yes agreed on the lockbar, kind of defeats the purpose, i think they should change that. Lastly that pic at the bottom showing the shiro model with the roller bearings is a MUCH better bearing design than tiny little round bearings with terrible surface area contact. They should use roller bearings on all their models and fix the lock bar insert and screws. don't get me wrong it's a great knife, just a few nit picks.
 
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