Shiva Ki Opportunity

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Hey fellas. The other day I received a very rare and special opportunity. I learned that Shiva Ki plans to retire "not completely" in about 3 years when his son gets out of the military. His son is currently serving in the Middle East and Shiva has generously given a total of 86 combat knives to Special Operations Troops over the past 3 years.
I asked him if he would consider letting me spend some time with him and learn all that he would be willing to share with me.

This was his reply,
" When you get healed up and are equiped to forge, I would be happy to give you some hands on experience, so you can start off on the right foot rather than having to learn the hard way like most of us did. Once you get the basics from me, you will find it easy going after that. Then you will know enough to learn more, and develope your own style. One always ends up developing their own style. Thats what makes knifemaking so interesting, there's so many ways to design and make knives and execute that process.
I will give you the basics, it's up to you to take those basics and make them your own, your own style, your own sence of what you "feel" about edged tools. You make what you love, and their will be others who "feel", love, as you do. Thats been my philosophy and that is what has been my guide over the years. It will become your guide as well, at my spirit forge, in the searing heat of the dragon's breath, as you make your first pc. of steel by your own hands.
You will be one of a privilaged few as I am not gregarious and only a rare few have had the opportunity to work at my side over the past 30 years. I am a recluse and do not welcome very many visitors. Damn few as a matter of fact. You will be one of those rare few.
Good luck on your healing and your dream.

Master Shiva Ki Om Ah O " end quote

I've been gearing up for a while now and had a nasty accident earlier this year which has set me back physically and financially. Hoping either next spring or fall to make the trip down to Baton Rouge.

He also wrote in another e-mail

" A week would be an excellent period of time for you to come for. You should be able to laminate and finish two knives in that period of time. Then you will have a good sence of what you are doing. To include making your own sheaths."

I feel very privelaged that Shiva Ki is willing to take me under his wing. I know he is not liked by many here at Blade Forums, but there are just as many if not more that do like him and his work. I can personally say that even an old warrior such as Shiva Ki has feelings and they were hurt. With that behind him he is very happy with the new popularity and recognition his work is achieving.
I cannot condemn or deny anyone for what they may or may not have said in the past, but Shiva Ki has been nothing less then a gentleman and a scholar to me.
I very much look forward to this opportunity and cant wait to share my experiences with you all.

Take Care, Art
 
You will learn much. Shiva took some heat here on Blade Forums and didn't handle himself too well. I think he was banned but later invited back, lot of controversy around him. Have fun!
 
Man, how awesome is that.
 
Fantastic opportunity. Go, learn, enjoy. Oh, and don't forget to take notes and pictures :)

-d
 
Thats great. From what I hear you will, at a minimum, learn how to make a ridculously scary sharp knife:thumbup: As for Shiva Ki's "quirks", all I can say is that unique and colorful personalities are one of the things that makes this game interesting, entertaining and loads of fun.:D
 
congrats...you are very lucky. i'm a big fan of Shiva's work and as a martial artist, i can respect his discipline...be sure to let us know how the week and your project turns out. :)

most of all...have fun. it is a rare priviledge indeed.
 
Thanks guys...Too say I am excited is an understatement. It still feels rather surreal to me. You can count on hearing about my experiences.

Cheers, Art

P.S. Sunfishman.....I guess things got pretty abusive around here for him. I'm not too sure what all transpired but he has not forgotten and probably never will.
 
There are those of us that would welcome him back. :thumbup:
 
Excellent opportunity!!! I am jealous. You know I think Shiva was kicked off the Forums because of a lack of knowledge of how the forums worked and lack of internet skills. This is a pretty tight and strict environment and probably for good reason. But I think banning someone for life is a little excessive. I have heard both sides of the story and my feelings have always been to give a second chance. I think he was doing his best to answer questions and maybe his ego got the best of the situation. If I could make a knife like any of these guys I would probably have a bit of an ego too. Anyway, cant wait to hear how class with Shiva goes. Every communication I have had with him he has shown me what a kind person he is and this shows how generous he can be also. I know that he has given almost 90 of his knives away to our solders "Over there". Let us know how it goes!!!!
 
That is a very cool opportunity. Congrats.

I should point out to those speculating about Shiva Ki's experiences on this site, that his posts are available for all to read, and- as far as I know, He is welcome to come and post here assuming he follows the rules. (correct me if I am wrong)

While he was here, he spent time talking about how tough he was, and insinuated he would knock people out, spammed his knives repeatedly, and IIRC, made some statements that are pretty far out. I personally think he is somewhat crazy, but undoubtedly knowledgeable. I have known people far crazier than Shiva, but unfortunately they didn't have anything of value to teach.
 
make what you can out of it :) Not every one is easy to get along with but doesnt mean they dont have something to offer :)
 
I wish I could go sooner, but this stupid accident has really messed things up for me and my family. As soon as I am healed and have my affairs in good order I'll be heading down. Thanks for all your kind words fellas. Cheers Art.
 
I emailed Shiva Ki and told him that some of you would welcome him back to the forums. I dont think he will ever make an appearance here again. This was his response: "I was treated like no man would ever dare to treat me face to
face, and they suffered no consequences. I made an analogy to a man
who called me a fake and a liar, and I was accussed of threatening
him and banned for life. I swore I would never subject myself to such
abuse again, never return, and I am a man not to be toyed with.
What wisdom they might have gained from me, THEY threw away when
they dogged me without mercy, with total impunity.
They lost more than they can imagine
when they thought they were being cute, hiding behind their childish
fake names; Gutless and useless keyboard warriors. THEY are the big
losers.
A customer from Spain is sending his two sons for two weeks, at a
cost of two thousand dollars a week, for me to teach them how to maim
and kill those who threaten their lives in Spain. This just after
spending over 10,000.00 in two months on some of my deadliest blades.
They will go home different men, never to be the same men ever again.
They will learn to fight with hands and blades, how to tap the
universal forces for good and learn japanese chiropractic and Sholin
healing therapies.
It is such wonders those ignorant sub-humans on Bf threw away when
they decided to treat me like dirt, with the protection of their
gutless names they hid behind."
 
I believe that's why he got banned in the first place...
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He does have some nice knives, but there are too many makers out there that are equal to him yet don't have the superiority complex and the drama for me to ever consider buying one. Also, does he poison his knives or something?? The deadliest blades part has me confused a little.
 
I emailed Shiva Ki and told him that some of you would welcome him back to the forums. I dont think he will ever make an appearance here again. This was his response: "I was treated like no man would ever dare to treat me face to
face, and they suffered no consequences. I made an analogy to a man
who called me a fake and a liar, and I was accussed of threatening
him and banned for life. I swore I would never subject myself to such
abuse again, never return, and I am a man not to be toyed with.
What wisdom they might have gained from me, THEY threw away when
they dogged me without mercy, with total impunity.
They lost more than they can imagine
when they thought they were being cute, hiding behind their childish
fake names; Gutless and useless keyboard warriors. THEY are the big
losers.
A customer from Spain is sending his two sons for two weeks, at a
cost of two thousand dollars a week, for me to teach them how to maim
and kill those who threaten their lives in Spain. This just after
spending over 10,000.00 in two months on some of my deadliest blades.
They will go home different men, never to be the same men ever again.
They will learn to fight with hands and blades, how to tap the
universal forces for good and learn japanese chiropractic and Sholin
healing therapies.
It is such wonders those ignorant sub-humans on Bf threw away when
they decided to treat me like dirt, with the protection of their
gutless names they hid behind."

gutless names I hide behind. More Shive B.S. and lies.

I banned the guy. My name is no secret to anyone here.
Gus Kalanzis.

He came in here talking down about other makers. I will be glad to tell him his actions were wrong to his face anytime.

All I see is a master liar who has no respect for others and no respect for this site and it's rules and a fool that will not look around and see what Shiva posted here.
 
gutless names I hide behind. More Shive B.S. and lies.

I banned the guy. My name is no secret to anyone here.
Gus Kalanzis.

He came in here talking down about other makers. I will be glad to tell him his actions were wrong to his face anytime.

All I see is a master liar who has no respect for others and no respect for this site and it's rules and a fool that will not look around and see what Shiva posted here.

I second that..I would never buy a knife from a individual who speaks ill of his fellow knife makers..Regardless of how esteemed his knife making skills are..

I was not involved in his banning or the drama that ensued..but anyone who disrespects another persons work in my opinion reaps what he sows..It is my opinion that this community is better off without a egolunatic such as him.....well you get the picture..

and Bhauer..who appointed you the chair of the "welcome back to the banned comittee"? With less than a hundred posts you should understand the lay of the land before inviting people back to this community. Who put you in charge? I can respect your love of Mr. Ki's craft but do not let your enthusiasm get you into trouble around here.
 
as far as I know, He is welcome to come and post here assuming he follows the rules. (correct me if I am wrong)

Perhaps I was wrong :D

Of course, if he had the ability to follow the rules in the first place, he never would have been banned.

I forgot the smack talking about other makers. That was pretty pathetic.
 
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