Shop Dog ATTACKED!

Sorry to hear about your dog, I hope she'll be quickly on the mend. Pets are like family: we hurt when they hurt and vice versa. I'm also sad to say the pit bull sounds like it should be destroyed. I hate seeing dogs killed because of their owners' incompetence or apathy, but a neighborhood is no place for a vicious animal whether four legs or two.

Heck, maybe you could just get the pit bull's owner fixed.
 
John L said:
Keep it holstered Brent. Nice to talk to you today....a couple of times!!
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I will John, unless it comes after us.... then I can't make any promises. God was protecting us for sure. It was good to talk knives with you today. I needed the distraction. Did you get to use that lathe yet?
 
I'm very sorry to hear of the bad situation you and your family were involved in. As many of the others, my dogs are like my children and I would defend them with my own life. Luckily for me, my Akita is a certified Search and Rescue Dog. Laws protect her and I in the event that I have to protect her against such attacks.

I would strongly discourage attempts by anyone to retaliate against a dog by tainting food or distributing toxic substances in or near the area where a possible viscious dog lives. Keep in mind, innocent animals may get loose and come upon these items. Such an event happened a few years ago and the mother of my dog was killed.

Your best bet in my personal opinion is to follow your before mentioned course of action and speak with your prosecuting attorney. Be sure to discuss your concern about the owner and his reputation of being involved with illegal activity.
 
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I'm very sorry to hear of the bad situation you and your family were involved in. As many of the others, my dogs are like my children and I would defend them with my own life. Luckily for me, my Akita is a certified Search and Rescue Dog. Laws protect her and I in the event that I have to protect her against such attacks.

I would strongly discourage attempts by anyone to retaliate against a dog by tainting food or distributing toxic substances in or near the area where a possible viscious dog lives. Keep in mind, innocent animals may get loose and come upon these items. Such an event happened a few years ago and the mother of my dog was killed.

Your best bet in my personal opinion is to follow your before mentioned course of action and speak with your prosecuting attorney. Be sure to discuss your concern about the owner and his reputation of being involved with illegal activity.
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Let me be clear tainting food has never been an option for me. Nor is entrapment or deception! I am praying that justice prevails.
 
My wifer shot and killed the neighbors dog when it was attacking my wife's pet ducks inside their fenced run area. They blocked our driveway with their car and called the sheriff to press charges against my wife for discharge of the gun and the killing of their dog. We sat and waited for them to arrive.

The sheriff's arrived in two cars due to the gun discharge report and we calmly explained what happened including the fact that they had blocked our driveway and were attempting to intimidate us. The dead dog was inside the fenced enclosure along with the feathers and wounded ducks.

The sheriff officers ordered them off our property and told them they were calling animal control to come and get the dog's body AND that they were going to be charged for the removal of the body. They also told them that if they ever blocked us in again THEY would be arrested.

Since the neighbors know we have guns and even my wife knew how to use a shotgun - they NEVER bothered us again. After a few years they got over it and started to be at least cordial when we crossed paths.

The point is you need to be sure you act within the law and if you have a carry permit and use the gun to protect yourself and family you will usually find that law enforcement officers are very understanding.

I too had to draw a shotgun in another incident on our property and again the officers were VERY kind to us and I almost had to shoot a person. By the way, I found that I could have pulled the trigger if necessary but just the drawing of a shotgun does have the potential to quickly change a very dangerous situation.

Now, with these two things noted I need to say that both I and my wife are actually very easy going and even we find it hard to beleive that we have had two very bad incidents occur here. So we still keep a pistol gripped short barrelled shotgun close by but never with a round chambered as we do have grandkids here with the oldest now being two. As they are getting to be toddlers we are resigned to needing to put it into our safe as soon it isn't worth the risk to keep it out. Hopefully if we evern have a 3rd need for a shotgun I will have a couple of minutes to get to it instead of a few seconds.

Dang, reading this it appears we are gun toting nut cases but honestly we are not.... So, feel free to stop by at 2:00 AM and start trying to kick in a door. :D
 
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murphda2 said:
I'm very sorry to hear of the bad situation you and your family were involved in. As many of the others, my dogs are like my children and I would defend them with my own life. Luckily for me, my Akita is a certified Search and Rescue Dog. Laws protect her and I in the event that I have to protect her against such attacks.

I would strongly discourage attempts by anyone to retaliate against a dog by tainting food or distributing toxic substances in or near the area where a possible viscious dog lives. Keep in mind, innocent animals may get loose and come upon these items. Such an event happened a few years ago and the mother of my dog was killed.

Your best bet in my personal opinion is to follow your before mentioned course of action and speak with your prosecuting attorney. Be sure to discuss your concern about the owner and his reputation of being involved with illegal activity.
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Good sound advice here, not much more to add other than "Good Luck" with resolving this issue
 
I knew I should not read this , but I did , and now my blood is boiling . I'm sure glad to here the family was not hurt and your dog survived . I love german short hair pointers , smart and friendly dogs . I hope the kids are not too damaged . When I was young I saw my neighbor get bit in the throat by a dog , I was afraid of dogs for a long time after that .
 
The reason these drug dealers have attack dogs is that they are legal for them to have (even if they are on felony parole) while a gun will put them back in the pokey, also it takes no skill to operate a canine weapon. In New York State owning a pistol requires a background check and a license. An attack dog is much more likely to cause public harm than a pistol, I think that there should be the same licensing requirements for Pitbulls, and Rotweilers. An attack breed dog that is going after people or animals not on it's owners property needs to be shot, pure and simple.

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sunshadow said:
The reason these drug dealers have attack dogs is that they are legal for them to have (even if they are on felony parole) while a gun will put them back in the pokey, also it takes no skill to operate a canine weapon. In New York State owning a pistol requires a background check and a license. An attack dog is much more likely to cause public harm than a pistol, I think that there should be the same licensing requirements for Pitbulls, and Rotweilers. An attack breed dog that is going after people or animals not on it's owners property needs to be shot, pure and simple.

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My thoughts exactly! Monday we have another engagement with the prosecutor. This will be my argument.
 
sunshadow said:
I think that there should be the same licensing requirements for Pitbulls, and Rotweilers.
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Don't blame the dog; blame the owner. (I'm sure you'd think it was crazy if someone suggested banning all knives, or all guns, no?)

Last time I looked into the statistics, yellow labs bite more than pits. I've never seen a breed more human-friendly; they weren't called "the nanny dog" for nothing. The dog aggression is a result of bad training.
 
I'm very to sorry to hear about Browny. I'll be praying for her quick and complete recovery.
 
I am sorry to hear about your dog and the trauma you and your family had to go through, but this isn't really the pit bulls fault its the low life that owns its fault. All though I am not a fan of Pit Bulls they usually are made to be viscous by their owners. Yes its too late for that dog and it needs to be put down humanely. The low life owner on the other hand should be punished in a similar way the your fine dog was attacked. Ruin his life, make it miserable, take him to the point of wanting his life to end and torment him some more. Serve it cold with no emotion and take him down.
Or just set him up for one big bust and say bye bye to him and his dog
 
holygoat said:
Don't blame the dog; blame the owner. (I'm sure you'd think it was crazy if someone suggested banning all knives, or all guns, no?)

Last time I looked into the statistics, yellow labs bite more than pits. I've never seen a breed more human-friendly; they weren't called "the nanny dog" for nothing. The dog aggression is a result of bad training.
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Guns and knives have no will of their own. I have never heard of an unsupervised knife or gun attacking a person, dog or even other weapons for that matter! They do not have to be watched 24-7. Nor do they have to be walked in neighborhoods filled with pets and kids.

As for the yellow lab thing. Biting is one thing.....being attacked by a "nanny dog" with absolutely no feeling in its face or head and that has death grip around your neck is something else!

Humanly friendly! I guess the rest of us poor dumb slobs that own family friendly animals and pets should stay locked in our homes so the non-animal friendly dogs can rule!

If you own one stay sober...and never take your eyes off it. All it takes is one time! So I hope your perfect!

BTW...I do blame the owner......and the dog!
I'm kind of tired of that line to be honest....

I wonder if "nanny dog" owners would be so forgiving if thier dog turned on them or someone they loved? But oh yeah, they weren't bred to do that were they? So the owners have no idea how the innocent victims feel, do they?
 
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Sorry for the rant. I do want to thank you all for the support and prayers.

The kids are doing great, and brown and I have a long day planned in the shop. Her on her pillow...me at the bench finishing a LC folder.
 
I hope you will keep us updated Brent . I would like to know if the prosecutor will be able to help you .
 
I hope your Pup gets to be well real soon. Am thankful it wasn't an attack of you and/or your family.
What to do...keep it legal...prosicutor is good.....
My potential response is not that smart.....357 HP to the dog and maybe the owner... but since he is a drug dealer, help the authorities nail that human waste to the wall.......
 
Man am I sorry to hear about that traumatic incident, and sorry your kids or anyone for that fact had to witness it, Thats awful! I own pitbulls and have ever since I was very young, My Grandfather worked them on his farm. They are athletic dogs and where a person could make a jack russell mean, you would have much but if you make a pitbull mean, well then you have a problem. I am 100% for people having to have a license to own pitbulls, altho I have never had one in 25 years that would bite anything, It makes me feel bad when I drive by a house and ones in a yard with a 50lbs chain around his neck, all for the sake of looking big. These Gangsters get these dogs and mistreat them, and then you have a very athletic, strong dog capable of bad things. I walk my 3 pitbulls every night and carry a gun just in case one of the bad ones run into us. I do hope your dog gets better and you and your family will be in our prayers,Charlie
 
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