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Thanks for those words Charlie. That's the response of a pitbull owner that cares! I do not want to destroy the breed but it would be nice to have an online registry to check so we can avoid those addresses or at least be prepared. You are correct any dog can be made vicious. The problem is this breed is build like a tank. After witnessing just how unstoppable these dogs are and hearing statements like..."oh my dog would never do that". I really earnestly hope not. I must say from my experience I'm very suspicious!

On another note, I missed the prosecutor today maybe later this week.

C.Edmondson said:
Man am I sorry to hear about that traumatic incident, and sorry your kids or anyone for that fact had to witness it, Thats awful! I own pitbulls and have ever since I was very young, My Grandfather worked them on his farm. They are athletic dogs and where a person could make a jack russell mean, you would have much but if you make a pitbull mean, well then you have a problem. I am 100% for people having to have a license to own pitbulls, altho I have never had one in 25 years that would bite anything, It makes me feel bad when I drive by a house and ones in a yard with a 50lbs chain around his neck, all for the sake of looking big. These Gangsters get these dogs and mistreat them, and then you have a very athletic, strong dog capable of bad things. I walk my 3 pitbulls every night and carry a gun just in case one of the bad ones run into us. I do hope your dog gets better and you and your family will be in our prayers,Charlie
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That address thing would be a great idea, I cant imagine how it must have felt seeing your dog being attacked like that, we treat our dogs like our children and to witness something like that must have been awful! Dogs like that need to be put to sleep, I feel you on the being suspicious, I would be too.Again hope everything comes out in your favor!
 
One word comes to mind after things cool off a while.... PRESTONE ... :thumbup:

But, as has already been said; a lot must honestly be considered before that type of action.

Glad the dog made it and none of you were physically hurt...... ;)
 
I am very sorry about your dog,,I do hope he heals well. I feel for your family as well,, I have had many many pit bulls over the years,,some were prone to be agggresive,,but only being protective,,although most did not get along with other dogs well. I have been a paramedic for 17 years now and have been called to more dog bites than I can remember,,I can say that pts bulls have not been any of them,,chows have been the culprits in all but 3,,I do not blame the dogs,,every pit bull I have had was very loving,,at least to my family and any other that they did not take as a threat,,so yeah pits have a bad rap,,I hate hearing that, most of the ones yapping about the pits have never had one and are just running off about what they have read or heard,,anyway not meaning to get off on a tangent,I do wish your dog and family well
 
gincoza said:
I am very sorry about your dog,,I do hope he heals well. I feel for your family as well,, I have had many many pit bulls over the years,,some were prone to be agggresive,,but only being protective,,although most did not get along with other dogs well. I have been a paramedic for 17 years now and have been called to more dog bites than I can remember,,I can say that pts bulls have not been any of them,,chows have been the culprits in all but 3,,I do not blame the dogs,,every pit bull I have had was very loving,,at least to my family and any other that they did not take as a threat,,so yeah pits have a bad rap,,I hate hearing that, most of the ones yapping about the pits have never had one and are just running off about what they have read or heard,,anyway not meaning to get off on a tangent,I do wish your dog and family well
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Nope, never owned one...... just had an innocent dog on a leash a block away attacked by one.
 
holygoat said:
Don't blame the dog; blame the owner. (I'm sure you'd think it was crazy if someone suggested banning all knives, or all guns, no?)

Last time I looked into the statistics, yellow labs bite more than pits. I've never seen a breed more human-friendly; they weren't called "the nanny dog" for nothing. The dog aggression is a result of bad training.
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YOU NEED TO RE-CHECK YOUR FACTS BRO

LABS BITE MORE THAN PITS??

SEE BELOW

Five Years and 67 Day Period

From January 1, 2005 to March 8, 2010, DogsBite.org recorded 158 U.S. fatal dog attacks.4 Pit bulls were responsible for 56% (88) of these deaths. This is equivalent to a pit bull killing an American citizen every 21.5 days during this time period.5 Rottweilers, the second leading killer and positioned far behind pit bulls, accounted for 15% (23) of these deaths. Combined, pit bulls and rottweilers accounted for 70% (111) of attacks that resulted in the death of a U.S. citizen.

http://blog.dogsbite.org/2010/03/us-dog-bite-fatalities-january-1-2005.html

PIT BULLS KILL MORE PEOPLE THAN ANY OTHER BREED--BY FAR
 
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It doesn't really matter which breeds bite more often. What matters is which specific DOGS are aggressive. It doesn't matter why they are aggressive. Once they become aggressive, it's all but impossible to turn them around. They may be kind and sweet to their owners, but they are a potential hazard to anyone else.

One problem with discussions like this is that people try to over generalize. One dog attacks and they want to lash out at the entire breed. That's stupid. Focus where the problem lies. We don't need a scorched earth policy to protect against individual animals.

The reason labs bite more often than other breeds is because there are a LOT more of them out there than the other breeds. Statistics won't solve the problem with specific aggressive dogs. Those individual dogs need to be managed properly.

A few years ago an Akita attacked my black lab mix. I spoke with the owner, who offered to pay the vet bills. I declined and let them know all I really wanted was for them to control their animal better. At the time his tiny Asian wife was walking the dog using a hemp collar and their story was the hemp collar got wet and stretched out. The simple truth was the little Asian woman was too weak to control the raging animal.

A few months later the same Akita attacked another dog AND its owner. That owner sued the owner of the Akita and won $12,000 (barely covering his medical bills). Since then the Akita has not been seen, presumably taken to the owner's rural property.

As a result of this I have no desire to attack Akitas as a breed... but if that one dog ever attacks again, I'll have animal control come out and take it away from the owners. I don't wish to hurt the owners, but their dog is a nuissance and a danger to the neighborhood.

- Greg
 
The reason labs bite more often than other breeds is because there are a LOT more of them out there than the other breeds. Statistics won't solve the problem with specific aggressive dogs. Those individual dogs need to be managed properly.
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prove Labs bite more than other breeds

Where are you getting your facts from Tryppyr???

here are the FACTS

2009 Dog Bite Fatalities

32 U.S. fatal dog attacks occurred in 2009. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 500 U.S. cities, pit bulls led these attacks accounting for 44% (14). Pit bulls make up approximately 5% of the U.S. dog population.3
In 2009, the combination of pit bulls (14) and rottweilers (4) accounted for 56% of all fatal attacks. In the 5-year period from 2005 to 2009, this same combination accounted for 70% (103) of the total recorded deaths (148).
The combination breakdown between the two breeds is substantial. From 2005 to 2009, pit bulls killed 82 Americans, about one citizen every 22 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 21 Americans, about one citizen every 87 days.
2009 data shows that 63% (20) of the attacks occurred to children (11 years and under) and 38% occurred to adults. Of the children, 60% (12) occurred to ages 2 and younger. In all attacks, males were more often victims, 59%, than females.
2009 data also shows that 38% (12) of all fatal attacks involved multiple dogs, and 19% (6) involved chained dogs. 75% (24) of these deadly attacks occurred on the dog owner's property and 25% (8) occurred off the owner's property.
The state of Texas led fatalities in 2009 (5) followed by Georgia and Illinois (each with 4) and California and Virginia (each with 3). Of the Texas deaths, the combination of pit bulls and rottweilers (4) accounted for 80%.
 
WHO CARES! Statistics aren't going to solve any dog attack related problems. You're trying to win a debate, which has NO bearing on the problem. Get over yourself.
 
tryppyr said:
WHO CARES! Statistics aren't going to solve any dog attack related problems. You're trying to win a debate, which has NO bearing on the problem. Get over yourself.
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You make an incorrect statement then resort to insulting me??

Real Mature

I have a LOT on respect on these forums because as a doctor I try to treat everyone with RESPECT.

I just asked you to back up your statements with facts.

I have already sent the facts about dog bites to the man that started this post.

and as a word of advice--do not post statements on this forum as fact--without being able to back them up.

You stated Labs bite more than other breeds--Just wanted to know where you got your facts from.

Sincerely

Dr.Bill
 
Again, Ill restate! If I owned a pitbull maybe I'd be defensive too. I started this thread to express my frustration with watching an UNSTOPPABLE animal mall my defenseless pet nearly to death. In the same way that I would not own a Wolf, Large cat, Chimp, or a poisonous snake. I wouldn't trust one of these breeds. I've witnessed what one small mistake can lead to and its not pretty. I've never advocated outlawing these breeds, just think it would be a great idea to keep them out of the hands of incompetent people and criminals!
 
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Just spent the last three days aiding and consoling my girlfriend. Her little 12 pound Doxy was attacked and killed by the Neighbor Pitbull The Pit destroyed a board fence to get at the Doxy. The neighbor conveniently don't speak English. No problem We have our own Spanish speaker. Now of course they all claim to not have jobs. The justice system has completely failed on this issue. The DA says that because the Pit only attacked a Dog it is a civil mater and not a criminal mater.
I just wanted to through this out there to see which A$$Hat wanted to get there panties in a knot and defend their preciouses Pitbulls. When your love-ones are grieving the loose of a precious family member no one wants to hear about how great the rest of the breed is.
 
Oh man I'm sorry to hear. We went through this a while ago walking ours, a lab mix. He seems to have no fighting instinct, which probably makes him such a good family member. Dang Pit pushed open the fence gate and just ran straight for us coming to kill. Luckily the wife got ours and I could restrain the pit. SCARED THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF ME. Called animal control they "talked" to the neighbor, sent me a big package to fill out. "There may be a hearing in a few months if you want to pursue this". ARGHHHHH!!! Talking to the other neighbors, we are not the first. Police don't have the time unless it is a human hurt, it's a civil matter. Now it's pepper spray, taser, knife, and a more prepared and aware owner.

Hope yours has a full recovery.
 
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I guess I should apologize for writing anything that might have been taken offensive I promise I didn't mean it to seem that way. I dont own anything preciouis, and the only hat thats ever set on my head had cat eyes on the back of it and it was given to me at Hunter Army Airfield:).I am a dog owner and I really feel bad for everyone that has had their dogs attacked by anything, My wife and I care a lot about our dogs no matter what breed they are and feel for anyone that has lost a family pet. Its a extremely difficult thing to have to go through and I hope nothing like this ever happens to anyone again.We will keep all the people here in our prayers:thumbup:
 
Doxy was attacked and killed by the Neighbor Pitbull The Pit destroyed a board fence to Doxy was attacked and killed by the Neighbor Pitbull The Pit destroyed a board fence to get at the Doxy. The neighbor conveniently don't speak English. No problem We have our own Spanish speaker. Now of course they all claim to not have jobs. The justice system has completely failed on this issue. The DA says that because the Pit only attacked a Dog it is a civil mater and not a criminal mater. attacked a Dog it is a civil mater and not a criminal mater.
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Oh man I'm sorry to hear. We went through this a while ago walking ours, a lab mix. He seems to have no fighting instinct, which probably makes him such a good family member. Dang Pit pushed open the fence gate and just ran straight for us coming to kill. Luckily the wife got ours and I could restrain the pit. SCARED THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF ME. Called animal control they "talked" to the neighbor, sent me a big package to fill out. "There may be a hearing in a few months if you want to pursue this". ARGHHHHH!!! Talking to the other neighbors, we are not the first. Police don't have the time unless it is a human hurt, it's a civil matter. Now it's pepper spray, taser, knife, and a more prepared and aware owner. pepper spray, taser, knife, and a more prepared and aware owner. Hope yours has a full recovery.
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I know what your feeling.



I guess I should apologize for writing anything that might have been taken offensive I promise I didn't mean it to seem that way. I dont own anything preciouis, and the only hat thats ever set on my head had cat eyes on the back of it and it was given to me at Hunter Army Airfield and I really feel bad for everyone that has had their dogs attacked that has had their dogs attacked by anything, My wife and I care a lot about our dogs no matter what breed they are and feel for anyone that has lost a family pet. Its a extremely difficult thing to have to go through and I hope nothing like this ever happens to anyone again.We will keep all the people here in our prayers people here in our prayers
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Thanks again Charlie. No need to apologize though. You have been very supportive. Statistics can be found to support any argument. I never wanted this to become a pi$$ing contest!
 
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bikermikearchery said:
I get kind of testy when my love-ones are hurt.
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I think we all do...

now to respond to the op;

First, its good to hear that you, your family, and your dog are doing well afterwards. Its good to hear that you are going about things correctly. I probably would have responded a bit differently, as I would have probably went after the dog that was attacking mine...

I know there are dogs local to me that can't exactly be trusted, so I am warry when I am near them. I am not scared of dogs in any way, rather I have respect for them; but if one attacked me or one of my pets (whether it be one of my dogs or my cat), I would get the animal off of mine... But I would make sure that I got law enforcement on the case as soon as the other animal was no longer an immediate threat.
 
blades&grace said:
Yesterday was a beautiful day here in Indiana. I got home from work and had just enough time to take a little walk through town to visit a friend who had just had back surgery.

My two little girls 3 & 4 years old got on there bikes, training wheels and all, and off we went.....My wife, the two rug rats, me and my shop dog Browny.

Brown dog as we call her is a German short hair pointer and is very docile.

She follows her nose so I like to put a chocker chain on her because she pulls less with it rather than her leather collar.

All is well as we walk and talk to our neighbors ... we come to a corner in town where a couple of families are out in their yard with their kids in a wagon.

We turn the corner and I hear it!!!! The sound of vicious barking... Then from a trailer to my left (over half a block away!) I see a Pit Bull bust through the door.

It charged from thier street thru thier neighbors yard and attacked brown.

In seconds it had Browny by the throat ripping her apart! I had no weapon only a small pocket knife which I new was useless in this situation. (next time I'll have my pistol)

Thank goodness the family down the street responded and beat the dog off with a hoe.

The police did respond quickly but because the Pit Bull only attacked my dog and not me or my family the owners were only ticketed for not having their dog on a leash!

Brown is home from the vet and is healing from a 7" gash under her neck that took over twenty stitches (the vet lost count) to sew up. She also has several puncture wounds.

The Dr. said that the two collars saved her life!

The girls seem to be fine...I lost more sleep than they did ..lol.. The owners are paying the vet bill...or at least the owners mother-in-law did! HA!

I KNOW....I KNOW....if you were me you'd go back and shoot the dog....right? Here's the catch ....

Come to find out, the dog has done this before! To four other dogs!

Because the owner is a known drug dealer everyone...including me!...is afraid of the retaliation this guy would bring.

Pray for me and my family,I'm talking to the prosecutor tomorrow.
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In my jurisdiction there is a misdemeanor criminal charge for animals at large. It is criminal, and not just a ticket. If your animal gets loose and caused damage.

Really bad news, and scary. I need to get my wife some bear spray, and convince her to get her CCW. When she goes walking with a 3 month old, and the 5 year old on his bike, absolutely nothing she would be able to do against a pit or a couple of any nasty dogs.
 
I truly sympathize with you on your dog and glad he made it. Dogs make life so much better and give so freely of their love.

I am more inclined to believe that there are way more bad owners than bad dogs. Some breeds are more naturally aggressive, but, unfortunately these breeds attract those who have power issues and if the owner is off base, the dog probably will be too. Sure there are naturally screwed up animals, just like their are people. But, far more are screwed up by the way they were raised. Look what happens with kids that get no discipline and lots of examples of aggression.

I had a pit rush out of a house and clamp down on the body of my wife's little Yorkie. A couple solid kicks to the ribs and ripping his mouth open saved the Yorkie. Though it laid around in a daze and limped for a while. The pit was stunned and knew it was dominated. Pits or any other dog are no match for a strong man. I don't care what anyone says you can pry their mouth open. Just grab their nose blocking it and their lower jaw and pull hard. It helps to have a lot of adrenaline going. Plus, a couple whacks with a size 12 will soften most things up. Worked for me. When it happened I didn't really think about it, I just attacked.

On another note. I had a Wolf/Shepard/Doberman cross. Absolutely the biggest lap dog in the world. He even looked out for the cats and the rabbits that ran lose on the place. Once at a BBQ, another dog and him started chasing the rabbits and when one ran by him he pounced on it. When it laid still he whined and looked concerned, then wagged his tail when it jumped up and took off. Vicious dog?
 
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