wire eddge said:
The Sebenza has torque issues? I have never had a Sebenza come unlocked on me during hard use-once again,the locks are fitted properly and lock up tight.
Doesn't matter on the latter point, torques can cause the liner to move and thus unlock. I have done it with lots of integrals and it has been reported with Sebenza's on the forum. It is simply a consequence of how torques can load an integral in the required vector to unlock it. You can also jam the lock under high pressure for the exact same reason.
The Rc on the Manix is a few points higher,big deal.One must not forget that it was Chris Reeve who worked with Crucible on the developement of the steel.They actually recommended the hardness at which they(who make it) believe it will work best and at which Chris Reeve uses.
Lots of other people have done their own R&D and have come to different conclusions. Reeve refused to make public any testing that they have done, so by your own logic then that is all meaningless. Of course feel free to ignore the consequences of your own presuppositions, would not want you to have to be consistent.
have you actually used a Sebbie in S30v or are you just speculating on its edge holding and cutting ability based on its hardness and blade grind?
No, but I have used a Green Beret in S30V from Reeve, it has low flexibility, toughness and edge retention, it is the worst performance from S30V I have seen, and in fact is pretty low for steels in general.
And yes, you can extrapolate on edge retention from hardness as strength and hardness are highly correlated, Goddard showed this years ago noting significant differences with just one HRC point.
Johnson and Swaim explored it in detail on rec.knives, comparing simply 1095 blades to many others and the 1095 ones had much greater edge retention due to the higher hardness.
Wilson has looked at it extensively also, including dropping HRC points on really high wear resistant steels like S90V and watching the edge retention take a dive due to rolling.
Spyderco broke a Sebenza,really-at what poundage did it break? Did they make the details of the results public?
They noted it didn't exceed the high standard they had at the time, which has been exceeded by their folders now, a pretty simple deduction thus follows. Strength though isn't the main issue, it is torque security which is the real problem with integrals.
Fact is that the Sebenza is strong enough for any task someone should be doing with a folder.This makes arguments for a stronger folder a mute point.
Again, there are more secure and stronger locks, and much more durable blades. This means those knives have a wider scope of work than a Sebenza, just because you can't do something with a Sebenza doesn't mean you should not do it with any folding knife.
That is a ridiculus arguement. There are lots of things I would not do with the Mel Sorg custom fixed blade I have, made from D2 at 62 HRC with really slim stock and a full height grind. Does this mean no fixed blade should to them? Hardly.
The fit and finish is simply better than almost any other production folder and every one that leaves the shop is perfect.And it is made out of the finest materials avaliable.
All of those are trivially nonsense. I have seen lots of production blades which have the same level of fit and finish, claiming perfection %100 percent of the time means none are returned, and you can find such complaints here, and as for finest materials, lots of knives are made from Ti and S30V.
You can of course state it has a high level of fit and finish and QC, but perfection, and finest materials, are just gross exaggerations. There was even a public admission of overtightened thumb studs which caused blades to crack awhile ago, this sort of blows a huge hole in the %100 perfection arguement.
-Cliff