SHTF: Avoiding Civilian Detention Camps

I don't see camps for the entire country....maybe a city or two. That is easily within the gov's grasp. Firearms in the homes don't help one bit. The gun roundups of Katrina prove that point to me. For FEMA to step in, usually some sort of natural disaster kicked them into motion. Again look at Katrina or any other big hurricane and see how the majority of the populace gets stuck in traffic jams. Pretty easy to have a few patrol cars blocking a freeway with a reroute sign that happens to take to a nearby military base, that happens to have a "camp" built into it. By the time you figure out what is happening, the AK-47 clone with the cool thumbhole stock that you have in truck isn't worth diddle to the tank and armoured cars with machine guns pointed at you. So this gets back to the original question. Leave the week before the SHTF or asap. Don't wait for the sheep to start running for the exits or you will get caught in pack.
 
Zenheretic, good points, I agree. I think people get controlled because they want to run along with the crowds (sheep) and want to be controlled for safety. It's the "Mommy Mommy Save Me" syndrome. There are people who are going to get stripped naked and then there will be wolves in the woods...and the streets...and the subway tunnels...and the sewers.
 
Kevin, Kevin, Kevin...what are your thoughts about straight jackets...too restraining? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
So.......what are the camps for??? I mean they must be for something but this discussion hasn't really enlightened me as to what they are for.

I think it is a clear consensus that the camps could not be used for the whole polulace, and even if they could the American people would simply not stand for it.
And frankly I just can't see ethnic groups being rounded up en masse and put into camps ala Nazi Germany; it is illogical.

It seems to me that the two most grave and pressing issues facing the Western world are (I leave out global warming and small scale terrorism);

a) An islamist state with nuclear weapons that decides to use them.
b) A global pandemic like bird flu.

In the event of us the west allowing an islamic group to make and use nuclear weapons I can't see the camps being of any use.

In the event of a major flu outbreak the camps make sense for the purposes of quarantine.

In the event of a local natural disaster the camps could also make sense for the purposes of imprisoning looters etc, or keeping vulnerable civilians 'safe'-

The only other scenario that I could see the camps being used for would be a massive fifth column uprising against the government, however I think that is highly unlikely.

I think what your FEMA camps are probably for is for mass outbreaks of a virulent flu, a local natural disaster or a local terrorism event, and as such it makes sense to construct them at various points around the country in order to cover the whole country.

Now would I ever let myself be herded into anything like that- I'm with you guys NO WAY!
 
Hey wolf, i think the basic "what if" about a detention camp came up....like, what if the gov't got corrupt, a dictator took control and they tried to herd people into camps, a la the Nazi's or the Russian's collectivization programs under Stalin.

That why you saw us saying "No way" , just not the same here.

But, as you pointed out, yes, if it came to a Pandemic, then you are on to something. There certainly aren't enough hopsitals to hold everyone.
 
SkunkWerX; That why you saw us saying "No way" , just not the same here.

Wow - hey it could even appen here I guess, but like yuo guys we would fight.

The only other thing is that here some of our army barracks in the North are fenced in and geared up for mass refugee arrivals via boat. I reckon that whatever the big event is in your part of the world, be it a terrorist strike using nukes, a flu outbreak or whatever, a mass exodus/refugee scenario is definitely on the cards, even if it comes from Mexico.
 
I think the case is more likely people ( the sheep) would flock toward them, for help during a disaster, not that they would be rounded up and forced in.

Those of us who feel we can take care of ourselves would dig heels in, hide, evade, or do whatever was needed to stay out of places like that.

After seeing the SuperDome in NewOrleans (the last place of refuge), who would want to take their chances in a place even remotely like that?
I'd have to be on death's door before going in voluntarily.

In the U.S. the authorities cannot even make you leave your house before and impending storm, or otherwise. they can beg, plead, and threaten, but, based on our Constitutional rights, they can't force us out.

There was that old geeezer who lived close to Mount St. Helen's. They couldn't gt him to leave, even when they knew it was going to blow.

But, i digress, I go back to your point, I agree that radical Islamics with dirty bombs, nukes, are more of an immediate threat than us getting rounded up by our own govts, en masse & by force.
 
I would avoid any kind of camp, period. If you look at military history, camps were bigger killers regarding disease, and the cause of more death than the battlefield.

A camp is a big petri dish full of accumulating filth.

As far as a pandemic disease goes, I think I would be better quarantining myself in my home, both for my sake and for the sake of my community.

Something I read once about the late Middle Ages (world history, kids, not me ;) ) During the times of the Bubonic Plague, if someone was suspected of being infected they would get tied to a chair and sealed up in their house, or hovel, until dead...well that may just well be urban legend BS, but it makes for an interesting read and what kind of thoughts may go through peoples mind if threatened by world wide pandemic disease.

By the way, you really owe it to yourselves to go read the history of the Spanish Influenza of 1918. It was a killer worldwide epidemic, not just a bad case of stomach cramps and sniffles.

IIRC, it started in a military camp in Kansas and then spread like wildfire within days and weeks...most communities in the US were affected...killed young people more than old people...came and went through a community within a week or two and then was gone...more than 30 million people worldwide, I believe, died from it, more than battlefield fatalities of WWI...or the Bubonic Plague. Hospitals were overloaded, doctors did not know what to do. They were dying as fast as the people they were trying to treat.
 
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