Sick and Tired of 8Cr13MoV! PLEASE GO AWAY!!

It has nothing to do with buying Chinese. It has everything to do with buying a knife from a company that's selling a cheap Chinese knife. There are plenty of high quality knives being made in China of top shelf materials. After buying a Kershaw CQC-6K I decided I would not buy another knife in any of the 8Cr steels, because it's terrible. Doesn't stand up to opening plastic bags at work for more than a couple days, whereas the Zing I carried (Sandvick) would go a couple weeks without sharpening. It also chips very easily. I know there are differences in edge geometry and all that, but this CQC-6K has the worst edge retention of any knife I've ever owned. It does not hold an edge as well as the AUS-8 or Sandvick I have used in other knives of the same price range. No thanks.
 
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craytab said:
Sick of it? Then don't buy anymore of it. No need to make a thread complaining about it...

Me? I don't mind it in a <$30 budget knife. Love how sharp it gets with minimal effort.
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:thumbup: THIS! :thumbup:
 
I will never stop being amazed by people that buy cheap anything, then complain they got ripped off.
 
Knife nut silliness. Save up your pennies and start collecting beer cans so you can afford a gen-u-wine US made budget knife made by red-blooded Americans in some domestic made steel like 420HC. That'll teach 'em furriners a thing ot two.
 
yepimonfire said:
Not that bad IMO. I love Aus 8 but quite frankly I don't want every knife having it on a budget blade. 8cr13mov takes a razor sharp edge fairly easy and holds it long enough to be useful for awhile.
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^This. Also, don't confuse the fact that it is "Chinese" steel and let that make you think it is "bad steel." That's some faulty reasoning there. It may need a touch up now and again but if you like budget knives, and like adding them to your collection, this is part of what makes them "budget."
 
GlockandBalls said:
I just wanted some other suggestions and also wanted to see if other people felt the same way. That's the beauty of this site.. We are allowed to create a thread and complain if we want to and people can either respond or not. I also hate that the Pacific Salt and Salt 1 are pinned with no ability to take apart or adjust. As a matter of fact, I am going to post a thread complaining about that. And if anyone doesn't like it, they don't have to respond. Or they can respond in one of 2 ways; They can give me insight as to why the design is as such, or they can be dismissive and tell me not to buy those knives. We shall see..
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That IS the beauty of this site, as is that people will continue to tell you the simple solution to what you are complaining about...which is don't buy them. That is deservedly dismissive because the problem is so easily dismissed.

I don't like knives with liner locks. Guess what I don't do? Buy them.
 
marcinek said:
That IS the beauty of this site, as is that people will continue to tell you the simple solution to what you are complaining about...which is don't buy them. That is deservedly dismissive because the problem is so easily dismissed.

I don't like knives with liner locks. Guess what I don't do? Buy them.
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Don't you feel that makes life too easy for you?
 
The beauty of this site is people who will state the obvious, not realizing that it is obvious and therefore did not need to be stated. It is indeed a beautiful thing to help an uninformed person to feel like they contributed.
 
I absolutely loathe 8Cr13MOV. Hate it more than you can beleive. Cutting a slice of wet bread makes it dull and (in my experience), it would rust in a desert.
It is a bit if a waste post, but I agree with you.
And you know what I don't do? Buy it.
I don't buy cheap kershaws purely because of the use of this Dollar Store steel.
Even though I would never pay 1$ for it.
 
^The above goes to show how different experiences between users can be. I have phenomenal experience with it for the money and my favorite Kershaws for the moment are the budget ones. But others can have vastly different experiences that sour the exact same steel, for them.
 
yepimonfire said:
Also it's extremely similar to Aus 8 just FYI. It does hold an edge a bit longer.
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You're not kidding. They are nearly identical steels. Biggest difference, chemically, is the amount of manganese in the steel; 8Cr13MoV has half a percent more of it.

Now, as for how the steel will preform after heat-treatment...
 
In budget blades, I found that I prefer Ontario's Aus 8A over Kershaws 8Cr13MoV.

Still, I sometimes pocket some of Kershaws $10 - $20 blades (Chill, OD-2, Nerve/Blitz) as I find them a good value at that price point.
 
RedLynx said:
^The above goes to show how different experiences between users can be. I have phenomenal experience with it for the money and my favorite Kershaws for the moment are the budget ones. But others can have vastly different experiences that sour the exact same steel, for them.
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Yup. I had a Kershaw Crown. I carried it for like a week and hated it so I literally destroyed it.
 
GlockandBalls said:
I know its decent. I am just sick of it. To buy Chinese or not to buy Chinese? that is the question, and I think I am over it. Japan and USA is all I will buy from now on.
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If you are a Spyderco fan you shouldn't count out the Taiwanese line. My carry knife is usually my Caly 3.5 (sometimes the pm2) but my Sage 1 and Chaparral have the best fit/finish of all of my Spydercos.

Back on topic. I recently received in a trade a beautiful sprint run Tenacious in green that was NIB. This was my first 8cr13mov knife. I absolutely love Spyderco and the Tenacious has such perfect ergos. I could only wonder how amazing that design would be in VG10. I ended up trading it without giving it a chance, I just feel more comfortable with VG10.
 
8cr13mov has done wonders for me, different strokes for different folks. Don't like the steel then move on to another knife! Haha
 
bladeboss said:
Yup. I had a Kershaw Crown. I carried it for like a week and hated it so I literally destroyed it.
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Can't say I've had experience with that particular model... If I remember correctly it was one of their smaller, "more elegant" designs and a bit too small for me to consider. But it's funny what doesn't work for us.

I sold a Benchmade with great steel and over $200 MSRP because for me, it just didn't perform very well, despite its specs.
 
Which knives *specifically* do you own with this steel? Just out of curiosity....
 
AntDog said:
Which knives *specifically* do you own with this steel? Just out of curiosity....
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Kershaw Cryo, and Thermite are the only knives I own with this steel. I just want to see something new. It will undoubtedly happen one day.. Not that I hate either knife. The Cryo is actually a good value IMO and I really like the deep carry clip on both knives.. But when I go looking to add to my collection and I am trying to find a budget folder, I see so many knives with this steel and I just want to see something different/better. I realize there are experts in pontificating as to the obvious solutions regarding steel preferences, but I don't care. This post has helped me..
 
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