Sick of this conus only crap

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Ausseknifeknut

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Seriously . Conus only . So you won't ship to hardworking ppl outside the USA? You should be ashamed of yourself . And I'm very much noticing hatred towards Aussies . And after I paid for platinum membership , casually enquired if a member of here advertising services ships to Australia , I get told said forum is private ?
 
I don't think that anyone has anything against Australians or people in any other countries. Its all the stories that pop up about packages being lost, customs seizing packages, and other similar stories.
 
I'm willing to pay full amount for items I want , the full amount of shipping , and accept full responsibility if something goes wrong with shipping companies . I'm not asking anyone to lie on customs forms either. I'm not even given a shot, except for one very kind forumite , who I'm gonna take up on his offer if it still stands. And bs there's no hatred of Aussies on here
 
There seems to be some danger in sending packages abroad.. However I just shipped a package to Israel with no problems at all using priority mail. And I have shipped a basic camping knife to Australia with no problems , I just put down camping tool and packaged well. So I have to wonder is there really a danger or is it just a perceived danger ? As long as it is legal to import I don't see a problem.
 
I have not noticed any anti Aussie sentiment but I have noticed a lot of threads about trouble dealing with international deals. The USPS does not track well once an item leaves their service. Add in dealing with Customs, extra forms, local legal issues, and shipping rates that are outrageous, and you have many reasons not to want the added anxiety of international shipping.
 
I have found that most people when asked will ship ouside the US, you are paying for the shipping anyway and it's generally not that much more. It's the waving of any sort of responsibilty or accountability from their side because they are dealing with a filthy foreigner that bothers me. It's a case of "I'll post it but if anything happens it's your problem, oh, and pay with PP gift so my money is safe, too"..... I don't even bother trying to buy stuff here now.
 
i have imported countless knifes from the usa here to switzerland ,with nary a misshap. t i think the storys abought "packages being lost, customs seizing packages" are just that storys
 
I am not paying paypal , a posted money order . I'm pretty sure that's a lot better gaurantee. Anyway a forumite has said that he'll take my mo and order me what I want , post it to me . And I'll throw in some extra dollars for his trouble :) . I'm just upset that most of the cool stuff is conus only , even though I'm willing to pay the full price of everything , and except the risk with Aussie customs. What I am very annoyed with is having a forum closed to me after simply $&@?ing asking if a seller ships to Australia ! He could've just said no and I woulda left if at that.
 
What forum was closed to you, a subforum here or another knife forum ?
 
Shipping OCONUS to Alaska or Hawaii or the U.S. trust territories is no different than shipping to Kentucky if the shipper is shipping from anywhere in the USA; however, shipping to other countries may well lead to customs troubles and confiscation. I'm not sure I'd want to research the other country's laws prior to shipping if I have any questions as to the legality of shipping the knife to the destination country or the legality of the knife in the destination country or even the reliability od the postal services in other countries.

Also, I'll not put "tool" on a customs form or insurance form when shipping a knife. Nor will I "devalue" an item on a customs form. I don't swing that way. I'll put "knife" and its proper value. Last vehicle I sold, the buyer wanted me to devalue the car and place a sales price lower than true on the back of the title so he could save a few bucks on taxes. Nope. Wouldn't do it. The first vehicle I bought after moving here, the seller left the sale price blank on the back of the title so I could put in whatever sale price I chose. I put in the actual sale price. My integrity ain't that cheap and certainly not worth saving a few bucks in taxes.
 
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Ausseknifeknut said:
Seriously . Conus only . So you won't ship to hardworking ppl outside the USA? You should be ashamed of yourself . And I'm very much noticing hatred towards Aussies . And after I paid for platinum membership , casually enquired if a member of here advertising services ships to Australia , I get told said forum is private ?
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Ausseknifeknut said:
I'm willing to pay full amount for items I want , the full amount of shipping , and accept full responsibility if something goes wrong with shipping companies . I'm not asking anyone to lie on customs forms either. I'm not even given a shot, except for one very kind forumite , who I'm gonna take up on his offer if it still stands. And bs there's no hatred of Aussies on here
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There is no overt discrimination towards any nationality here on BF.

As an "International" myself I have been denied a few sales on BF. However……….

It is the sellers right to stipulate wether they want to ship CONUS only and we must respect that.

The seller does bear a responsibility to get the knife to the buyer and many sellers just cannot be bothered with the additional problems that International shipping causes. It is upsetting when I am denied a sale but I get over it and move on.

BF is a predominantly US forum and as such we must respect that some US sellers do not wish to ship Internationally.
 
Ausseknifeknut said:
I'm willing to pay full amount for items I want , the full amount of shipping , and accept full responsibility if something goes wrong with shipping companies . I'm not asking anyone to lie on customs forms either. I'm not even given a shot, except for one very kind forumite , who I'm gonna take up on his offer if it still stands. And bs there's no hatred of Aussies on here
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Simply the chance of lost package would be my reason. However, if someone like you came along, I would sell to you since you absolve me of responsibility. USPS is less reliable than they should be and hard to track once out of the country.

That said, I like aussies. I guess I feel a kinship since we all used to be POME's lol. If you need help getting something, feel free to PM. You cover it and I'll help get it to you free of charge.
 
Dude, you can't make people sell to you. Personally, I have never noticed anything but affection for us Aussies here. Well, except on Whine and Cheese anyway, and they didn't treat me differently to anyone else there! I have had packages seized by Customs, and I appreciate people not wanting me to lose money on their account. You just do what you can. Maybe check out some custom makers here in Australia, there's some pretty good ones.
 
I've shipped hundreds of packages to many different countries, including Australia. Never had the first issue. I think most that won't ship outside of CONUS just don't want to mess with the paperwork.
 
leghog said:
Shipping OCONUS to Alaska or Hawaii or the U.S. trust territories is no different than shipping to Kentucky if the shipper is shipping from anywhere in the USA; however, shipping to other countries may well lead to customs troubles and confiscation. I'm not sure I'd want to research the other country's laws prior to shipping if I have any questions as to the legality of shipping the knife to the destination country or the legality of the knife in the destination country or even the reliability od the postal services in other countries.

Also, I'll not put "tool" on a customs form or insurance form when shipping a knife. Nor will I "devalue" an item on a customs form. I don't swing that way. I'll put "knife" and its proper value. Last vehicle I sold, the buyer wanted me to devalue the car and place a sales price lower than true on the back of the title so he could save a few bucks on taxes. Nope. Wouldn't do it. The first vehicle I bought after moving here, the seller left the sale price blank on the back of the title so I could put in whatever sale price I chose. I put in the actual sale price. My integrity ain't that cheap and certainly not worth saving a few bucks in taxes.
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I am not asking anyone to devalue or lie on the customs forms.
 
So then why didn't 710 simply reply to my question of do you ship to Australia with a no ? I would've accepted that , instead I got no reply to my question in the service provider sub forum , and now when I open the sub forum , it says it's private and i can't even view it. And btw ppl saying they simply can't be bothered shipping outside of the USA is VERY unprofessional
 
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And I'm very much noticing hatred towards Aussies.
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You guys have lots of beaches, hot chicks, a cool accent, and you call everyone "mate". What's not to like?

As for shipping outside of the U.S., I think that most of us recognize that the farther the package has to travel, the more likely the seller will get screwed. This is just a fact of life, and has nothing to do with Australia. The farther the package travels, the higher the likelihood of it getting lost or stolen, or of some customs entity stealing it. I don't have any data to prove it, but anecdotally it sure seems that the likelihood of encountering a fraudulent buyer increases with sales to some remote (from our perspective) part of the world. When a package gets tied up in customs for 3 months, the buyers sometimes blame the seller, who has nothing to do with it. When you add up all of these little factors - the risk of transit, the customs, the time lapse, the potential for fraud - maybe you can see why some sellers, including me, don't ship outside the U.S. I would rather sell to someone 200 miles away, whose purchase I can track every step of the way, and who has none of the risk I noted above, than to someone 3500 miles away. This has nothing to do with xenophobia. It's just grief avoidance, there is nothing wrong with that. I feel for you, but it's not our fault that Spyderco and Emerson don't make knives in Brisbane or Perth.

As for the "private" forum, there is no such thing. If you can access a forum, its all yours. So just because some goofball may have told you that something was private, it doesn't make it so. Rock on.
 
You don't understand . The service provider forum , comes up when I click forums in the top left hand corner. The last post says private . When I open it after that , it says there are no posts in this forum. And once again I'll accept any risks with customs and or lost packages . I'm not gonna headhunt the seller over something that wasn't their fault.
 
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I certainly haven't experienced any anti-aussie sentiment here. I don't particularly like ill informed CONUS only sales but I respect it is the seller's decision. In some cases it is a matter of legality and I think it is completely understandable for a seller to be reluctant to send to any overseas destination if they think it could lead to complication. Having said that I have worked with several sellers to have knives sent here - all successfully. But I would not be asking anyone to send me something which has even a small chance of being confiscated by customs unless I had documentation to show it would be allowed through.

The simple truth is people who wish to do business here need to make good business decisions. Everyone is worthy of respect until they prove otherwise and a good attitude helps everyone do well out of a deal.
 
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As long as it is legal to import I don't see a problem.
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Therein lies the problem - most casual sellers don't have a clue what is legal where. Nothing against the OP of this thread; but MOST people would not accept the loss of funds if their purchase didn't make it to them... which leaves the seller holding the bag (empty bag - since the knife isn't there, and the buyer filed a nondelivery claim with PayPal and was issued a refund).
 
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