1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Week 4 of the BladeForums 20th Anniversary Year of Giveaways is live!

    Click here to enter the drawing for your chance to win a Benchmade Limited Edition 319DLC-1801 Proper, or Bladeforums.com swag or memberships!
    Be sure to read the rules before entering, and help us decide next week's giveaway by hitting the poll in that thread! Entries close at midnight, Saturday January 26!

    Questions? Comments? Post in the discussion thread here
  3. Matt "Charlie Mike" Freeman passed away unexpectedly last weekend. We have various threads posted in both the General & Community forums, please share your memories:

    RIP Charlie Mike

    A Go Fund Me has been started to help cover his funeral expenses: https://www.gofundme.com/cmftw-for-matt-f

Side Project Sabers -

Discussion in 'Fiddleback Forge Knives' started by Fiddleback, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. Sergeua

    Sergeua

    933
    May 1, 2016
    https://m.dobroni.pl/_mobile/index.php?q=news-show&ItemID=13295

    I have the above saber. If your translate to english it gives you proper measurements and you might get an idea. Click on pictures and it will show you more measurements. This one i think is based on older sabers from 1800s. They have longer one they use on horsebacks. This one is shorter and pretty good size.
     
    Fiddleback likes this.
  2. swonut

    swonut KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jan 1, 2007
    Nbrackett likes this.
  3. Halfneck

    Halfneck Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    2 of my favorite swords. They don't exactly scream finesse. The Bluchers Sabre supposedly received complaints from the opposing French officers. When I see a Basket-hilted Broadsword I imagine a charge of Scottish Highlanders armed with them & a spiked targe shield. Love the final fight scene in Rob Roy when he hacks down his opponent. BluchersSabre.jpg BaskethiltClaymore.jpg
     
    mistwalker likes this.
  4. Fiddleback

    Fiddleback Knifemaker Moderator

    Oct 19, 2005
    That. I want to make it.
     
    Nbrackett likes this.
  5. Fiddleback

    Fiddleback Knifemaker Moderator

    Oct 19, 2005
    Lots of great information there. Thanks!
     
  6. VANCE

    VANCE Allen, I have an axe to grind with you. Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Mar 13, 2006
    Andy wanted me to post some pics of his bayonet. There is a bit of a learning curve to taking "good" pics of schwords. Im on the uphill climb, hopefully.
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  7. Odaon

    Odaon Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 13, 2009
    I'm really looking forward to seeing what you create Andy! Such a cool project!
     
  8. VANCE

    VANCE Allen, I have an axe to grind with you. Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Mar 13, 2006
    While Andy is grinding this week's knives John started to profile out the first sword
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    she's SPARKY...right in the FACE
    [​IMG]
     
    hasco likes this.
  9. VANCE

    VANCE Allen, I have an axe to grind with you. Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Mar 13, 2006
    and just like that
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
    Odaon, mistwalker and hasco like this.
  10. LostViking

    LostViking Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 1, 2009
    You can put me down for a Basket Hilt Claymore and a Seax. Genetics and all.
     
    Fiddleback and Nbrackett like this.
  11. VANCE

    VANCE Allen, I have an axe to grind with you. Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Mar 13, 2006
    handle components arrived yesterday afternoon
    [​IMG]
     
  12. VANCE

    VANCE Allen, I have an axe to grind with you. Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Mar 13, 2006
    John took some notes a couple days ago regarding the weight
    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
    wildmanh likes this.
  13. DavidCAndersen

    DavidCAndersen

    758
    Nov 11, 2013
    Don't you guys know anything? Everybody knows that old cavalry sabers were scandi ground and usually had a serrated spine and a blood groooove for optimum exsanguination... everything you read on the internet is true btw.
     
    Lapedog and Fiddleback like this.
  14. swonut

    swonut KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jan 1, 2007
    I'm looking forward to the point where you pull it out of the quench oil and it blows up into a huge ball of fire! Immediately followed by a few taps with a hammer that results in two swords of much shorter lengths....

    Just kidding. Keep us posted!
     
    Fiddleback likes this.
  15. Fiddleback

    Fiddleback Knifemaker Moderator

    Oct 19, 2005
    LOL. We don´t have the facilities to ht the blade. Our oven is only 15" deep. These blades will be going out to Peters HT. I don´t imagine they will be impressed enough to post the process....
     
  16. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    Try getting hold of Matt Easting I think his name is who runs this site and the Scholagladiatora youtube channel. He has an extensive collection of European (including British) sabres and I am sure he would be glad to get those measurements and any photos and info you would need.

    https://m.facebook.com/historicalfencing/

    https://m.youtube.com/user/scholagladiatoria
     
    Odaon likes this.
  17. Fiddleback

    Fiddleback Knifemaker Moderator

    Oct 19, 2005
    Thank you @Lapedog I sent him a message. I don´t know why it took me so long to just bite down and do that...
     
    Lapedog likes this.
  18. Fiddleback

    Fiddleback Knifemaker Moderator

    Oct 19, 2005
    OK. I've spent a couple of Saturdays on this first sword. What I have now is a bade that is ready for HT and my first guard pretty far along. The bladework is totaly different than making knives. There is a distal taper and a fuller that are both tricky to do and kinda compound the difficulty of one another. I think I've figured out a method I like and last weekend I roughed in the fuller. Today I cleaned up the fuller and started the blade grinding which is actually quite simple. This first blade is going to get destruction tested and will likely not even keep its handle. This will give me a couple of chances to make tweaks and changes to the handle, which I will need. Once again, a sword handle is totaly different and I've had trouble designing anything that looks halfway decent.

    The next part I was having trouble designing was the guard. I've made a first attempt. All of the fittings of the sword are going to be copper. Today I drew up a vague shape to try to produce. I cut a pattern from micarta and a first attempt from copper. Then I hamered the copper guard to shape. I'm pretty pleased. I was able to thicken the stem, which will become the knuckle guard. I even kept it straight. I cut the piece smaller than the finished piece and thinned the guard to the size I wanted. I think I could have gone way farther here, but I got something pleasing and stopped. I have a couple of pics.

    In this first pic I'm getting started with the guard. The blade is roughed, and is sitting beside the notebook. The micarta is sitting out ready to be made into a pattern.

    [​IMG]

    Here you can see the pattern being made. You can see a curl of paper I cut off of the guard, planning to expand the copper to the line in the drawing.

    [​IMG]

    This next pic shows the copper cutout and the micarta pattern. And a coupe of experiments for the pommel.
    [​IMG]

    This pic shows the blade fitted to a slot in the copper blank.

    [​IMG]

    This was after the first heat of hammering. The goal here was to thicken the thinner profile of the copper and keep it straight and squarish.

    [​IMG]

    This was a few heats later. The damn forge is in storage so I was using the torch.

    [​IMG]

    This is where I am at the end of the day. The knuckleguard has not been bent around yet, but is ready to go. The guard is thinned and has the profile to fit the drawing and then given a bit of contour. This will likely be re-worked a few times before the 3rd blade is ready, and the guard has a permanent home (I hope).

    [​IMG]
     
    fonedork, Dritios, Tekton and 2 others like this.
  19. swonut

    swonut KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jan 1, 2007
    Something about copper work hardening very quickly. Heat it often... There that's all I know.
     
  20. VANCE

    VANCE Allen, I have an axe to grind with you. Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Mar 13, 2006
    is that a copper spoon?
    i want it

    why did you cut a hole on the middle? for beans?
     
    Nbrackett, Lady1911 and Tekton like this.

Share This Page