Signal mirror?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-X6BBY8kME

This may be closer!

DancesWithKnives

The original unit you posted was closer. The one my neighbor had actually closed from a full parabolic dish into a half-moon shape, protecting the metal prong in the process. I am particualrly interested in that design since the folded mirror protects the prong from snagging anything in your pack or pocket, and takes up less room than the fold-over lid style. Imagine, if you would, an omelette before you fold it. It is round when in the pan, but in the 'closed' position, it is a half moon, which similar to the closed position of the solar lighter my neighbor had. I wish I could just ask my ex-neighbor about it, but we haven't spoken in decades, and honestly I doubt he is even alive to ask, heheh.
 
According to the link that Walkabout referred me to, it sounds like it's the glass beads on the mesh that creates the fireball. I'm thinking there's no fireball with the County Comm crosshair sight.
That seems logical enough. They should really ammend the instructions on the back of their mirrors then, because they clearly say that an "aim indicator" will appear as a "bright light spot." I'm sure they would still get the job done, but I was disappointed in mine though, as it lacks the fireball. Good excuse to do some shopping is suppose.

Thanks for the info guys. I now know more then I knew there was to know about signal mirrors.
 
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CD's aren't terribly reflective, unless you have a stack of those old AOL disks laying around. CD-Rs are the worst. good as a last ditch, but I'd rather carry something better. another thing to consider is when the silvering comes off of CD's it tends to all come off, as opposed to just scratching like a regular mirror.
I'd assume why we don't hear of it being used as much on land, is that few people carry them. they are mandated for boats iirc, but when most people are found waving their arms because they didn't even have a whistle?
 
CDs are certainly better than nothing, but the grooves in the CD apparently cause the light to reflect in different directions, so you're not getting a concentrated flash like you do with a mirror.

During my casual testing, the CD was by far inferior to mirrors and other highly reflective surfaces.

Just my .02
 
it lacks the fireball.

From my quick research, it does seem that all of the upper end, signal mirrors (glass, Lexan, etc.) have one thing in common - a glass bead mesh sight.

One a side note, I just want to say that this forum is the best when it comes to intelligent discussions and sound advice. If it wasn't for this forum, I would have probably purchased some cheap Walmart mirror because it came with a free case. :rolleyes: :o

Thanks to all who contributed! :thumbup:
 
Just got an email from Adventure Medical Kits saying their computers went down on Wednesday and they lost my credit card information. For my inconvenience (which was none), they are mailing out a signal mirror free of charge. :eek:

Looks like I'll be using AMK for all my safety item needs in the future! :thumbup:
 
I think a mirror are worth packing in a kit.


When using a mirror, think of it as a rifle with front and rear sites. That mesh is the front site and the circle is the rear site.

Now that mesh is actually a tiny irregular mirror in itself laid out in a grid or mesh. The sun shines on that mesh and since there is no set pattern to the mesh, the mesh is able to collect light from almost any angle the sun is shining from in relation to you, and create that little ball of light. The only reason it is a mesh is because you have to be able to see through it or you would never know where that ball of light is to line things up.

Now the mesh is the front site and you have your ball of light in it. Now you need to line up the ball of light or front site, and place it in the circle, then place the ball of light on your target. You just turn the mirror until that light moves and lines up on your target and you are done.

As you are moving that ball of light, what is happening is different parts of the mesh are lining up with the sun and making the ball of light appear to be moving across the mesh. While you are doing that, the large surface of the mirror is also moving in the same direction towards your target.

Not the best explaination about the mesh, but it is the best I can do without actually being one on one.

As far as using two mirrors, you would have to have the sun to your back and your target to your front. Basically 180 degrees apart. Think of it like a football field. The sun is in one endzone, the target is in the other and you are at the 50 yard line. You could use two mirrors at that point, but really, if you think about it, your target is going to be looking right at the sun trying to find you. Even if the target was doing that, do you think that little mirror will out shine the sun? At that point you need to create an angle between the sun and target.
 
Absolutely! Having been a combat military pilot, and later a civilian SAR pilot, I can cogently suggest the mirrors are worth their weight in gold. I (we) have made several lifesaving rescues thanks to the efficiency of the signal mirror and its user.

On land or at sea?
 
Three and a half years a go I bought a Starflash 2x3 signal mirror. I had to pull it out yesterday (first time from original "packaging") because I needed a small mirror. The mirroring stuff is disintegrating. I'll start looking for steel or glass.
 
I've had a surplus glass one about 2"x3" w/ aiming hole in the middle. I just keep it in my SK for emergencies. I used it several times on the JMT to shave with, and to fish a foreign object out of my eye. How are solo travelers going to get crap out of their eye, without a mirror?

This is a must have. Mine is 20 or 30 years old (minimum) and functions like brand new. Out West, in the frequently open terrain, blessed with bright sunlight, a mirror is great. Visibility in the Eastern Sierra is typically 60 miles, and car headlights are plainly visible 15 miles away.

I don't have faith in the lighter plastic mirrors. I figure that it's better to carry something a little heavier as long as it is guaranteed to work when I need it. Anytime I pull the mirror out, I'm already semi-desperate, whether to get a shave, or extract a foreign object from my eye, or signal rescuers(not needed yet). The real feeling of security that a high quality tool lends you is always welcome, for what that's worth. Nobody in a jam ever said to themselves, "I wish I had a crappy tool to deal with this situation."
 
I'm using a disk (platter) from a failed hard drive. I harvested three of them from the last drive I took apart. These disks have the most reflective surface I've seen anywhere, more reflective than a mirror. They're unbreakable, weigh nothing and don't cost you anything. The hole is a bit large, but you make up for that by holding the disk further away from your face.
 
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