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MAURICE

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lets say you see an auto you want on for sale forums,but you do not live in the same state as the seller.is there any way to buy it without breaking any laws?
can it be shipped like a firearm(e.g. through a dealer)?
Thanks In Advance
 
Simple..use ups to ship it
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Personally, I now will just say that I am getting it to further my ability to serve in the Illinois State Militia.

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Chang the Asian Janitorial Apparatus

[This message has been edited by Comrade Chang (edited 10-25-2000).]
 
Federal law prohibits interstate transportation of automatic knives with specific exceptions for legitimate law-enforcement and military use. By the way, just being a law officer or a soldier is not good enough. You have to be the supply officer of the agency and the knives must be for official use (not personal).

So, if you see such a knife in a for sale forum at a show, etc., there is virtually no way you're gonna get it into your hands without breaking federal law. Even carrying it personally across a state line is a no-no.

So, my Benchmade autos are fully legal since I live in Oregon. Oregon allows private citizens to own automatic knives. And Benchmade manufactured my knives here in Oregon. None of my Benchmade autos have ever been outside the state of Oregon. But, how did my Microtech Halo which, as far as I know, was made in Florida, get here? Some questions are best not asked.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
Are you sure about 'carrying it' across a state line? Lots of people go on vacation to Oregon and Florida, see an auto, and buy it thinking it's legal for personal use or for a collection. In Wisconsin, auto knives appear at gun shows, and the police who patrol the exhibit do not ask the dealer to close. They do ask the dealer to close if he is selling Balisongs, because our Attorney General has forbid sale, possession and carrying. With the latest static involving CRKT, I think there are a lot of collectors trying to obey arcane laws, and probably opening themselves up to indictment.--OKG
 
Originally posted by Old Knife Guy:
Are you sure about 'carrying it' across a state line? Lots of people go on vacation to Oregon and Florida, see an auto, and buy it thinking it's legal for personal use or for a collection. In Wisconsin, auto knives appear at gun shows, and the police who patrol the exhibit do not ask the dealer to close. They do ask the dealer to close if he is selling Balisongs, because our Attorney General has forbid sale, possession and carrying. With the latest static involving CRKT, I think there are a lot of collectors trying to obey arcane laws, and probably opening themselves up to indictment.--OKG
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Autos are a no-no in Wi the crime is a
Class A Misdemeanor max penalty 9 months
and $10,000.
 
yeah but they want to change the definition of arms to a left and a right with 2 hands and ten fingers.
Damn legislators.

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It'll feel better when it stops hurting.
 
I've recently found out that i can get autos with a special license, but can they be shipped to me? Unless they were from hawaii or something, wouldn't they almost have to?

James

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The beast we are, lest the beast we become.
 
It is not illegal to export an automatic knife from the US. It has to be done without crossing state lines, though. That's a bit of a problem. You can't Fed Ex it, for example, because Fed Ex will want to take it from, for example, Benchmade here in Oregon, to Memphis and they'll send to Australia from Memphis. Assuming you can legally import one into Australia, to do it legally, you'd have to have someone here in Oregon, in the case of a Benchmade, counter-to-counter it to you on a flight that left from Portland and did not stop in any other state. I ran a quick check and there are no such direct flights.

There's only one other possible loophole in this. I'm not sure if, once the package is checked as cargo on an international flight, if the prohibition on interstate transportation applies to it anymore. It's possible that once the package has been checked onto that flight and placed in the cargo hold it is, essentially, already considered to be in Australia. I don't know.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
This is the problem with leftie Big Brother laws that try to regulate people by constricting their hardware. "It's against the law to ship an auto to a State above the Mason Dixon line on a Tuesday in any month with an 'R' in it." Meanwhile, a law abiding citizen or company, like CRKT, gets jacked around and a JD with a sharpened piece of chrome wanders the streets because his 'civil rights' might be violated due to his ethnicity. Further, good laws get scoffed at because we all have contempt for the 1958 law on autos. I receommend we vote this election, in unheard of numbers.--OKG
 
>> lets say you see an auto you want on for sale forums,but you do not live in the same state as the seller.is there any way to buy it without breaking any laws?

Take it apart and take the spring out of it. That is the same way they get it into the country. The only thing that makes the knife illegal to ship across a state line is the spring. With out the spring, it's just another knife. Thanks, JohnR7 www.BalisongKnife.com
 
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