Slasher Movies

Ah yes the shink sound - I have also wondered about that one. Closest I have come is kind of a pop using kydex sheaths. As I have been cut a number of times, but never shot or shot at I seem to fear getting cut more. Must be some kind of subconscious thing
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As for the movies, a bad one is just that - the slashing just adds insult to injury. Some slicing and dicing placed in a good movie is a different story, I got a real charge out of Braveheart and the hand to hand scene in Saving Private Ryan.
 
Brian; Thanks, I have only been lurking for about a month, but listening to this group for a month is enough to put a serious dent in your wallet
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Just guessing here but maybe the moron'0s shink sound is them trying to imitate a knife with a sharpener in the sheath. Haven't seen any like that for awhile where its makes a pass on the blade everytime it enters or exits the sheath, but gerber has some fillet knives with a sharpener in the tip of the sheath. Even so that doesn't explain why they make it when people pull out a pocket knife or pick up a knife off the counter.

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The odd thing about the "Scream" movies is that for the most part the killer(s) are bumbling fools who kill their victims because the victims are usually stupider than they are.
I can't count the number of times the killer(s) have been K.O.'d, kicked, clocked over the head...you name it, but instead of finishing them off, the victims always make some stupid decision that gets them killed.

As far as the way these movies are made, they aren't scary at all. (The first Texas Chainsaw Massacre was, though). Of course, knowing it's a movie makes a difference, too.
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Oh yeah, Ravenous. I think I suggested that one before. That movie is the funniest movie I have ever seen, I don't think it was meant to be funny though. But notice that the goofy soundtrack would stop just as the guy was screaming when colonel Ives chased him around with the bowie, and then it would start again and then they'd start running around again. Acting was pretty good considering how goofy the plot was (not to say it was bad, just goofy). As for the time period, it was set in the time period after the Mexican War (1846-48), so it was probably like late 1848 or something.
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Reservoir Dogs wasn't a slasher movie but I thought the hacking off of the cop's ear was pretty graphic. Scream 3- now that's a slasher movie with a classic slasher plot.

p.s.- Ravenous was pretty funny!

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As for the earlier claim that bullets don't knock people over, I can say that is false, just do to physics. The momentum of the bullet imparts a significant force on the target if the bullet is at all reasonably-sized.

As for Resevoir Dogs (one of my favorites), they actually shot that scene two different ways. One had graphic detail, and one swung away as the cut was made. Test audiences found the not seeing, but imagining to be much more powerful.

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As for bullets' knocking people over....wouldn't the recoil from the weapon also knock the shooter down. Newton, and all that. (you know....equal and opposite reactions, etc )

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Believe me....being this old and having to live with all this experience is not the picnic I thought it was going to be.
 
In movies, good guys may take out bad guys with guns or blunt trauma, or swords if it's a "period" piece, but not with knives. Remember Crocodile Dundee. He intimidated heavies with that big bowie knife, but never cut anybody. A sword may be a gentleman's weapon, and a symbol of lawful authority. Knives, when seen as weapons, are seen as weapons of spies and assassins and thieves.

And maniacs too.


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Right on Brian W.

E_utopia - do me a favor - don't believe everything they show in the movies - better yet, when it comes to gun scenes - don't believe anything they show

When a person is firing a gun, the bullet leaving the barrel has a specific momentum - i.e.: half its mass times its square velocity.

This momentum is used to push back the slide, press the spring and push the shooters hand back - if you deduct the amount of force needed to push back a slide of known weight and press back a spring of known hardness - you would be able to calculate the energy the bullet has. We know this is not enough to push back the person shooting - and figures show that this momentum is far from being enough to push down the person being shot.

The knowledge of shooting is great and interesting - if you want to study - start of with Ed Sanow and Even Marshals books.

You can also visit Kramer holster's site - Evan marshal has a column there, and ask him any question. He usually answers them.

All the best - and don't get shot.
 
Right on Brian W.

E_utopia - do me a favor - don't believe everything they show in the movies - better yet, when it comes to gun scenes - don't believe anything they show

When a person is firing a gun, the bullet leaving the barrel has a specific momentum - i.e.: half its mass times its square velocity.

This momentum is used to push back the slide, press the spring and push the shooters hand back - if you deduct the amount of force needed to push back a slide of known weight and press back a spring of known hardness - you would be able to calculate the energy the bullet has. We know this is not enough to push back the person shooting - and figures show that this momentum is far from being enough to push down the person being shot.

The knowledge of shooting is great and interesting - if you want to study - start of with Ed Sanow and Even Marshals books.

You can also visit Kramer holster's site - Evan marshal has a column there, and ask him any question. He usually answers them.

All the best - and don't get shot.
 
I also recommend rec.guns and the FAQs at www.recguns.com

There's a FAQ section on ridiculous gun scenes in movies ... it's a text file several megabytes long last time I looked ... just about every movie Hollywood has ever made with a gun in it has an entry....



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*LOL* I DONT KNOW IF THIS IS RELATED BUT THE OTHER DAY I WAS ZAPPING AROUND CHANNELS AND I GOT TO WATCH A FRAGMENT OF THAT "POPULAR" SERIES (WICH SUCKS INDEED) *G* AND A GUY PULLED OUT A NICE SPIDIE IN THE MIDDLE OF TEH CLASS... IT WAS LIKE A GLIMPSE OF GOLD THAT MADE THE WATCHING WORTHY... :-)

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TracerS

not sure of the scenario, but , it would be interesting to consider : what would the scene have done to the image "non-knife" people have of knives ?

You don't see many "pro-knife" scenes on tv.
Most blade exposure feeds the fears of the public.....makes more money.

And a friendly (really) hint....use your SHIFT and Caps keys....all capitals can irritate (like shouting)
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I don't want to be right all the time......I just want US to be right more often.
 
Originally posted by James Mattis:
In movies, good guys may take out bad guys with guns or blunt trauma, or swords if it's a "period" piece, but not with knives. ...Knives, when seen as weapons, are seen as weapons of spies and assassins and thieves.

And maniacs too.
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Mr. Mattis - Steven Seagal is the greatest when it comes to realistic scenes - bith knife and gun that is. he also KNOWS what he is doing - unlike other who only train in looking real (Bruce Willis - who looks good but doesn't have the slightest idea)

He has a nice dual with Tommy lee Jones in the final scene of "Under Siege" - and another one at the end of "Under siege 2"

He also takes out one of the bad guys with a Gil Hibben throwing knife to the neck in "Under Siege".

But generally speaking - you are right.

WE ARE MANIACS!

 
Yeah. I agree that the bad guy is usually the one with the knife. What frequently happens is that the bad guy is using a gun, but the good guy disarms him. Then the bad guy pulls out a knife, and this is seen as a really sneaky, underhand tactic. Using a gun is ok, but pulling a knife is "not fair" in movie logic terms.

There's yet another movie/knife myth I was thinking about, although this one is so obvious I hardly need to point it out. It's the "Sure shot knife thrower" myth: Whenever someone throws a knife in a movie, it will stick to its target. This will happen even if the target is moving, the knife is not balanced for throwing, or something is placed in front of the original target (usually a board or similar item that can be easily penetrated).
 
Originally posted by Smoke:
Blilious, the US gets a shorter, edited version of "Leon", called "The Professional".
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Smoke - sorry for not getting to you earlier - but did you see the full version?

INMH - one f the best movies by Look Bason - close behind Ronin (a must see - one of the best action films of recent years)


 
Cerulean - and BTW - the knife always flies in a strait line - it never turns on its way - much like an arrow
 
Originally posted by James Mattis:
In movies, good guys may take out bad guys with guns or blunt trauma, or swords if it's a "period" piece, but not with knives.
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Wasn't always so! One of my favorite movies is John Wayne's "The Alamo." The Duke himself killed a man with a bowie knife!

Ryan



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Blilious, I have "The Professional" and "Ronin" but not "Leon". I will change that however.
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I'm currently going through "Timebomb" which supposedly has some gun and knife stuff in it.
 
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