sling shot

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I was just thinking, sometimes when you cant carry a gun while hiking or camping, possibly a sling shot would be good to carry. It is very small and can be tucked away in most pockets of a pack. Ammunition can be found anywhere (rocks). If lost in the woods for a long time, it would greatly improve your chances of getting meat. I feel it would be easier than trying to set up a figure 4 deadfall. What do you all think.
 
Not a bad idea. Had one when I was a kid. With practice could be fairly accurate. I also had a pump pellet pistol. Was very powerful and easy to carry( about 14" long)
 
Yeah this is not a new idea but you are right in that they make a very handy survival tool.
Many people on this forum carry surgical rubber in their kits for that very purpose !!!

I also feel you are right that many of us would probably have more luck with a catapult than with a trap, I know that when I was a kid I did become quite accurate with my " Gaddy " and could hit birds as I now regret !!!
 
the bands degrade in sunlight. Practice making figure four deadfalls right now if you are thinking about "making meat" in the wild.

start practicing with a slingshot. It is harder than you think to hit a 2 inch diameter bottle at even say 10 yards. Or it was for me at least. I haven't really used mine in a while, a pellet gun works for me.

Maybe look at a blowgun. I have one that is a great walking stick, so you could always have it with you when hiking and stuff like that.

but rereading, "If lost in the woods for a long time", If i was in a place were I could get "lost" for a long time, I would take a gun. Would GREATLY IMPROVE chances of getting meat. Anywhere were you could get lost for a long time has to be deep in the boonies, so I would think one would be able to carry a gun.


Scottman
 
Hmmmm... this thread got me thinking of my old pellet gun. It was a Crossman 1322 Classic. Awsome little pistol. Was stolen out of my car back in college. Too bad they are not made anymore. Only the 1377 is still being made. Think I might have to pick one up and start plinking again. Besides my son can use it too when he gets older.
 
I had a Pocket Rocket folding slingshot when I was in high school. It was made to brace on the wrist and the draw length was as long as a hunting bow. I used marbles, sinkers and steel ball bearings for ammo and I did get so that I could hit a rabbit sized critter at 15 to 20 yards. I killed quite a few rabbits and a bird or two with it. Regular practice is critical for dependable accuracy.
One afternoon I caught a stray dog raiding out chicken lot. He saw me first and was well over fifty yards away and running when I launched a lead sinker in his direction. The 1/2 ounce sinker caught him in the back of the head and rolled him like he was pole axed. It did not have enough energy to kill though and he jumped up then ran off somewhat dazed from the whole affair.
:eek:
Pure luck shot though, I tried to reproduce accuarcy at that distance and I could only hit a rotten, head sized, squash maybe three times out of ten.
 
I was just thinking, sometimes when you cant carry a gun while hiking or camping, possibly a sling shot would be good to carry. It is very small and can be tucked away in most pockets of a pack. Ammunition can be found anywhere (rocks). If lost in the woods for a long time, it would greatly improve your chances of getting meat. I feel it would be easier than trying to set up a figure 4 deadfall. What do you all think.

Respectfully, I disagree. While a slingshot can be a useful tool, it will never, ever, take the place of traps and snares. Traps and snares work for you 24/7 and you can make as many as you want because all the materials are readily found, at least in most locales. And I believe even the most ardent gun hunter will recognize the superiority of many properly placed traps/snares versus supplying food with gun alone. And I think we all agree, a gun would be much more effective than a sling shot.

Also, a fig. 4 is not a difficult trap to make or set up. There are also a ton of other traps and snares that are field expedient. Ask Mr. Coote (who traps regularly and also hunts with bow and gun) his opinion. He has a lot of experience with different type traps, especially on his favourite quarry - Brush tailed possums (?).

Coote, where are you?

Doc
 
Shooting a sling shoot is a lot like shooting a traditional bow, practice, practice.
I haven't hunted with one, but I do keep one in my BOB just in case. But I do agree that traps are exponentialy more productive.
 
sling shots can produce meat but it takes practice. Grey squirrels are tough to kill with one even with a clean head shot they often scurry away and that is with .45 cal lead shot. I don't feel they are the most humane thing to use. On pigeons they are more effective and I bet they would work on grouse if that is not against the law. The one thing they excel at is taking frogs if you are in to frog legs, but a gig works just as well and weighs much less. Just my thoughts, Joe
 
I don't have a lot of skill with sling shots but my dad is deadly with one. He made them out of surgical tubing he used to get from a commercial fishing supply house - it was 1/2" outer diameter and 1/8" inner. Practically solid rubber!

When I was little he used to hunt pheasant with them a bit - Pitdog will find this funny - in Beacon Hill Park. Yes, that was a while ago!

He also killed our neighbour's cat with one after it killed a kitten we had. Shot it off the top of a fence with a smooth round stone about the size of a shooter marble. Dead as a doornail.

We lived about a block from the ocean and had limitless supplies of smooth round rocks for ammo. My dad kept a bucket of them by his bedside, ranging from about 3/4" to just under golf ball sized. Mostly that was for the big dogs that used to wander the neighbourhood, I think.

He made me a slingshot, but I never got very good at it, really. I was barely strong enough to draw it back.
 
I've used Wrist Rocket slingshots since I was a kid and got pretty good with one. It would be much better on birds than small mammals.

I think the real tool to learn to make and use for survival use is the classic sling-- the same thing David used on Goliath. You can use paracord and a chunk of leather or fabric for the pocket. You could make one using your boot laces and a tongue, although I'm not much for taking my boota apart in a survival scenario. I imagine it would require about the same amount of practice as a bow to reach a good level of accuracy.

Here's a link to whet you appetite: http://www.pipeline.com/~jburdine/index.html
 
I know that firearms are basically The King of Food Procurement.

I know that trapping, like fishing, is quite attractive for very good reasons.

I also know, for a fact, that a wrist rocket and a bag of steel ball bearings that are approximately half inch in diam. are gamegetters.

Trapping is going to be more time-intensive for learning than a wrist rocket. That having been said, there are some people who will never get the hang of them.

The "David" Sling is attractive but much more time-intensive when it comes to learning and you have to have an area where you can use it. In cover or woods, it's not going to be so easy.

Also, anyone can go to a field where there is no possibility of hitting anything important and learn to shoot a slingshot unless that item is specifically banned in your area, i.e., wrist braced slingshots are illegal in New York State because the people that run New York State are oppressive retards. I think The Midnight Moderator also said they are verboten in New Jersey, another bastion of freedom.

Yet, for most people, they're legal.

Trapping with snares and other primitive means, oftentimes, is not. If you cannot learn to make them, they're useless. If you cannot practice making them and testing your skills, they're also useless.

If you choose to break the law in your area when it comes to slingshots or traps, well, I don't have anything against that either. I don't believe such laws to be morally based anyway so they beg to be ignored for the most part. Especially in instances where you are talking about your own private property.
 
It only takes a few hours of practice for the average person to be able to hit a tin can at 10 yards w/a slingshot. Like instinctive archery, or throwing a ball, it is easy to learn. I used a Saunders SR-7 Wrist Rocket in the early 80's; it was strong and accurate. Slingshots were quite popular in years past from the 40's through the 80's. The key to accurate slingshot shooting is to use round objects (Steel balls, buckshot, etc), and not rocks. Slingshots are silent, light weight, cheap and fun to use. They slip in a pocket (unless it is a fixed or braced wrist support) and do not tend to attract negative attention like airguns or bows if you are spotted strolling down the road or trail. Many "sheeple" dismiss slingshots as toys, and find them non-threatening. At short range (20 yards or less), they are great small game weapons with lead balls or sinkers. 3/8", 7/16" or 1/2" steel will also work well on small game, but lead hits harder and doesn't bounce back at you as hard if it deflects off a tree or rock. Round (or semi-round) stones can be used in a pinch, but they are not as accurate at longer range. Trumark, Saunders, Barnett, OddWing and Crosman all make powerfull hunting slingshots (braced, unbraced and folders), and you can find great deals on E-bay. Stay away from the cheap stuff, the metal frames are thinner and could snap under a strong band, resulting in injury or the loss of your eye. Quality name brand strong, superb slingshots are not that expensive to begin with and only a few bucks more than the cheap (and dangerous!) stuff. You can go retro and look for the classic slingshots of the 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's on E-bay or at flea markets. There were great models made in the past like Wham-O, Mulligan, Tinker (Killdeer and Deerslayer), Victor (Trap co.) and the Scopeshot, that all used Gum rubber flat bands, that out preformed most of todays tube bands. Oddwing in Saco Maine ( www.oddwing.com) makes a great classic style straight grain Ash slingshot that reminds me of the Wham-O; great looking wood but it has powerfull tube bands (sold in most sporting goods stores and online) instead of the Wham-O's flat gum rubber. I have a standard Oddwing, unbraced w/the heavy bands, and use it for pest control around the house. This slingshot will shoot a 3/8" steel ball right through a coffee can like a hot knife through butter. There are many instances of game the size of coyotes and foxes being taken with slingshots by hunters at close range. This is pushing the limits of ethical game shooting, and you are best to stick to headshots on smaller game like grouse, bunnys, squirrels, raccoons, possums, crows, skunks, frogs etc. Slingshots also make great weapons around the house for destroying pests like rats, as there is NO noise and the range is often short (in a garage, barn, or near the trash bin or bird feeder, etc.). On E-bay you can locate very powerfull tapered flat bands made of latex or gum rubber for the classic slingshots. Trumark has a great website for more information on the sport. The Trumark S9 (unbraced) and FS-1 (folding wrist brace) are two of the great basic models that Trumark makes. You can locate either for well under $10.00 (U.S) if you shop around online. With Heavy tube bands like Trumark RR2 (Black), they make great hunting/pest control slingshots. A slingshot is a great low cost addition to a survival pack or just to slip into a pocket of your hunting jacket. One of the cheapest forms of shooting a Sportsman or woman can be involved in. Just ensure that you check your local laws first.
 
wrist braced slingshots are illegal in New York State because the people that run New York State are oppressive retards.

It's all a big joke until someone you love is killed by a drive-by slingshotting. :p
 
"It's all fun and games until someone losses an eye." ~ James Hetfield of Metallica

Spelling is correct in that quote, that was from a 90s vintage video documentary.

Uh, yeah, I know, all of the senseless violence due to driveby slingshotting, bayonetting...blowgunning...it just has to stop. :)
 
You don't have to be killed by a drive-by slingshotting to make it unpleasant. The boys next door had Whamos and liked to shoot at the neighbor kids from their balcony. A friend of mine took a marble to the head and got quite a goose egg from it. I'm glad it wasn't a wrist braced model and a lead sinker.
 
I love using slingshots. I have both the standard bands and the black extra power bands. The black bands are more difficult to draw but the payoff is worth it. .50 cal. lead balls have a more noticeable "thwack" when they hit a target. Obviously, you won't carry the larger lead projectiles but for around the backyard pests, it is very practical and safe.
 
when I was younger I used a sling shot all the time The wrist braced ones are illegal here in ny and many manufacturers and vendors won't ship any of any kind to NYC....Also as per the dec it is illegal to take small game in nyc with a slingshot.....A survival sit is obviously different but check your game laws because iof you happento get stopped by a dec officer the liklihood is that you'll have a good amount of explaining to do.
 
Also as per the dec it is illegal to take small game in nyc with a slingshot

I wonder why this law is in effect. I have a mental image of someone chasing a squirrel through Times Square with a slingshot, while the cops look on in frustration over not being able to do anything about it. :rolleyes:
 
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