Small problem

Gary W. Graley

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I've recently picked up a small folder. But let me start from the beginning;
1. I had posted asking for a certain knife.
2. I received an email saying this person had one if I was interested.
3. Replied I was, asked what his price was, agreed upon and money order sent the next day.
4. Received an email that at first was quite excitable saying that now I have your money, you'll never see the knife because it never existed...but a few lines down he said he was just kidding and provided the delivery confirmation number...whew not a fun thing to read.
5. Box arrives, not the right knife, a smaller one from the same line but not what I expected nor paid for.
6. Emailed back to him, wrong knife, did he ship this by mistake and mine to someone else?
7. He emails back that it should be the right one, I did a scan and emailed that to him.
8. He says, ok, if you want, just return the knife, I'll return your money. I said ok.
9. Thought more on it, the knife is nice, smaller and less expensive, so I emailed an offer, difference was $55, said I'll keep the knife, if you send $50 difference, keep the $5 for shipping or what ever just to make it an even deal.
10. He agrees and said that he wanted to make sure I was ok with the knife, that's a good thing I thought. And said that the knife was growing on me and it'll work out.
11. No money order...
12. No money order still...I find his phone number from a quick search on Yahoo people search and call. He was surprised of course.
13. No money order even still...emailed him again, no response, but saw him on line on AOL and he claimed that the letter was returned for some reason along with other stuff he had sent out. And would get it out the next day.
14. You guessed it, no money order, emailed but no response, on line again and asked him what address did he send it to, same one, so now that one is probably making it's way back to him. Now the knife had the right address on the box, how the letter was messed up I have no idea.
15. Emailed warning that I need to know what's up and when he will send a new money order out or I'd post on the Good Bad and Ugly, which I'm just telling the story tonight, it's been almost a month now and he's not that far from PA.

So, I am a pretty understanding person, his initial email to me, wrong knife, no difference refunded yet, am I out of line to post his name to warn others? I told him I'd give him a chance to let me know if he is sending the replacement money order to the correct address. And of course I'd return his initial money order if and when it ever shows up.

Arrgh, right after my daughter's wedding, the funds would be handy right now, actually shouldn't have bought to begin with but impulses are strong at times you know.

If I don't hear from him by tomorrow night I'll post his name and forum name so others can be on the watch, otherwise mums the word for now.

Thanks for letting me vent a little,
G2
 
this guy needs to make good ASAP.

I have chatted with Gary often and have watched this unfold.
Gary you have the patience of a saint and I can't believe someone would be dishonest to you.


Anything I can do to help , just let me know.
 
Gary,

This is ridiculous. The guy's stories don't pass the smell test. It is incumbent on him to go the extra mile for you since he sent the wrong knife (and did not even send it until after he had your money). I would suggest he go to the Post Office and send a money order with priority mail, delivery confirmation, insurance, return receipt requested, registered, certified, etc. and then scan the receipts he gets (including the one for the money order) and email them to you as proof (he won't). Even better would be for him to pony up the 10 or 12 bucks and send it by FedEx or UPS overnight so it will get to you immediately and be trackable (he won't).

Some people just don't hold their honor to have much value.
 
Gary... this guy is full of lies. Seeing as he has a post on another forum with a bunch of stuff for sale. I would hate to someone else get burned as well..... I can almost bet he is reading this.

Some people don't realize that the majority of the members do visit and enjoy all the forums , so burning someone on one forum will follow you.....even into hiding.;)
 
I'd say this guy better come clean with you pretty quick Gary. I've never dealt with you personally but I've been around long enough to know you are highly respected and a very nice guy. I can't think of many other forum members that would have larger backing of supporters. Sounds like this guy is just about to step into a DEEP pile of you know what :eek:
 
I am one of many who have dealt with G2. Very honest and dependable. You are doing the right thing here Gary and this guy is giving you the shaft in return.

Having read so many of these types of things here, I can almost tell you how its going to play out.

He is going to see this thread, so at the last minute he will contact you telling you that he is sorry, and the MO will go out tomorrow. Chances are he will have the standard list of excuses such as: hard drive crashed, email problems, out of town, in the hospital, dog died and so on. You know how it is, anything to buy him more time so he can continue to sell on the forums. Of course the MO that is "in the mail" will not show up and this will be played out all over again.

Good luck Gary, you dont deserve this crap, this guy is not being honest with you, and he probably never had any intention of being straight with you.
 
Gary,

IIRC, you don't use PayPal (hence the need for money orders) but if this guy has a PayPal account, I will make the following offer to you:

Have him send the money he owes you RIGHT NOW, TODAY to my PayPal account and I will email you when he does and send you a money order--emailing you a scan as I discussed above--immediately upon receipt. No lost mail, wrong stamps, dog ate the envelope, etc. Payment NOW. Email me privately if you want to do this (and he agrees) and I will set it up.

But I won't hold my breath.
 
I'd cram a 2X4 so far up his as.....................................
 
Gary. . .the person that you're dealing with. . .evidently has no standards or spine !!!

He hosed the deal from the beginning and continues to make promises. . .and doesn't appear as if he'll make good on them now !

VERY BAD FORM ! :mad:

Feel your pain bud ! :(

And hope that it works out in your favor !
 
Personally, wolfmann, you're going a little soft on him. I would suggest putting his fingerstips in a state whereas he can't operate a keyboard:mad: Then I think his knees need a little water on them so he needs to be sitting all day to feel better. That's when you can shove that 2x4 where the sun doesn't shine:D

Post his name Gary. You don't deserve that treatment.

Regards,

Barry H
 
Thanks for letting me vent, he has until 9 tonight and I'll post his forum name and real name and address as well. I've had a few emails with guesses and a few that also had what I'd call not so smooth deals but they did finally work out, as I hope this one will.
I called his house at noon and his sister said to call back in an hour as he was sleeping, called back and got the machine, left my work phone...toll free number...for him to reach me. Called again, left one more message. So he is still home but not responding.
Appreciate the offer on the Paypal deal, I don't know if he has a paypal account but if he reads this, that would be an excellent way to work it out.

Till 9 guys, and thanks again for the support.
G2
 
Tick Tock goes the clock... I would post this on any other forum that he has knives for sale on as well..... ;)
 
Ok, enough time;

Forum names are; ElaithC, email is ElaithC@comcast.net

His previous one was Kiy, email was LegendaryKiyoshi@comcast.net

Ron Chau
116 Charlemont St.
Newton, Ma 02461

Knife in question posted on this thread Here

If he comes through I'll post that as well, but as one other person had emailed me, he'd not sell/buy from him again, just feels it's too risky.

So for now, I regretfully have to say, becareful when dealing with him.
G2

PS just a side note, he is currently waiting to go into Marine Boot Camp this month, he thought he'd be there by November 4th...but they are not committing to a firm date yet so he's still home.
 
Originally posted by Cougar Allen
His last log-on was Nov. 3rd, before this thread was posted. For what it's worth....

I didn't rely on his reading it, as sometimes people can't get on line, so that's why I called 4 times, spoke with his sister, left two messages as well as several emails that get no response.
Believe me when I say I would rather not have to post this, he can still come through and I hope he does.

G2
 
G2... he posted some knives for sale over on knifeforums on 11/5/03 so he is still around..... hope he makes good on it as well but at this point it ain't looking too good.

I agree with IRA 100 % ....


ElaithC also has a want to buy post here on BFC currently ....

:mad:
 
He gets into Marine boot. . .and someone sends a letter, addressing his failure to meet his financial obligations, to the bosses at boot.

If that fails. . .first duty station CO gets a letter. Wow, wonder what that letter would be about. :cool:

While they can't force him to cough up the frog skins. . .it won't look too favorably on our "boy" Ronnie. :D


Just another avenue to shake bushes on !


Gosh. . .ole Ronnie-boy is such a stand-up guy he'd thieve 50 friggin' dollars. I'd hate to have him around anything worth more than a used condom.

Hell, he'd probably thieve that too ! :barf:
 
Originally posted by the45guy
G2... he posted some knives for sale over on knifeforums on 11/5/03 so he is still around.....

:mad:
As well as being a moderator here at BladeForums, I'm also a moderator at KnifeForums, so please clue me in to who this bozo is, so that I can keep an eye on him and take action as needed.
 
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