Small Sebenza 21 Lockup too far??

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Just received my first small sebenza 21!

Posted up on the general forums....and got some feedback that my lockup looks like it's going to far for a brand new sebenza....

Is this a problem??

I took it apart a put it back together a few times to see if it'd change, but it stayed right where it was from the moment I took it out of the box.
 
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I wouldn't say it's too far personally. If the lock bar is hitting the Ti on the other side and the blade has play then I would say it's too far.

:):thumbup:
 
Its more than you would like, but as long as there is no blade play your fine. If over time the lockbar travels to the other side and bladeplay develops, CRK will make it right. But that would be quite some time down the road if it happens at all. Congrats on your first sebenza.
 
100 Percent Normal, Nothing To Worry About, The Deeper The Better

As Long As There Is No Blade Play, 2 Out Of My 7 Or So Are At Least

That Deep & At Least 1 Of My Umnunzaan's Is The Same. In Fact 1 Of My

Mnandi's Is That Deep Too. Just Enjoy Your New Knife. :D:D:D Rickster :D:D:D


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Okay....sweet.

It locks up TIGHT! It almost feels like a fixed blade.I've had other so-so knives that were supposed to lock up tight, but there was always just a tiny bit of movement. Not with this sebenza...Almost feels welded. Heh.
 
It looks fine. In the future when you take it apart and clean it it will decrease like mine. I was like you,worrying about my sebenza as well but like others said, unless there is movement, it is fine. Enjoy it, it is awesome and you have good people standing behind it as well.
 
My lock up (Small Classic) is in the same position. Nothing to worry about.
Use it.
 
Send an Email to CRK. That's a bit far from the pics of sebbie lockups I've seen. It'll bug some people till the end of time this will.

No harm in asking CRK.
 
Cotherion said:
Send an Email to CRK. That's a bit far from the pics of sebbie lockups I've seen. It'll bug some people till the end of time this will.

No harm in asking CRK.
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It has been asked recently and the response is if that if the lockup is tight it is fine. They also mentioned that sebenzas are a little different than many other framelocks, so they dont generally have the same level of lockup. I couldnt find the post quickly to quote but I think my memory will suffice:)
 
I would send that back. That's almost at 100% on a brand new (hopefully) knife. I think perfect would be 50%. That's where mine was at new, that's where it's still at.
Is it fine technically? Yes. But if your sebbie and mine are used in the same fashion, yours will wear out earlier than mine.
 
Yeah, he might have to send it in within the next 10 years for a readjustment.

It's fine.
 
Greetings Swmp4L: I experienced your concerns about the late lock upon getting my first Sebenza. Mine, when new, was at about the same percent of travel as your pictures show. Being obsessive, I used a KD Tools mod #65 wire gauge to measure the gap between the lock bar and the right slab of the factory new small 21. It was 1.02mm. After quite a while ( about two years) of daily carry and use it has not perceptively moved. Still 1.02mm. One of my sons is a chronic Sebenza "thumb flicker". ( An annoying habit ) His knife's lock bar travel has also not visibly moved or worn. The lock bar face is hardened to WELL above the level of the blade steel. I believe the factory spec for lock bar/blade tang engagement is 75 percent (as per an Anne Reeve quote in the FAQ section of this forum). Academically Mr. Clean is of course correct. Given absolutely equal use, frequency of opening and closing, identical cleaning regiment, precisely equivalent lubrication, exactly comparable parts alignment upon reassembly, and identical hand grip pressure and application when used, then your knife will require refurbishing before his. OldDude1
 
mongomondo said:
Yeah, he might have to send it in within the next 10 years for a readjustment.

It's fine.
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Some people who spend that amount of money on a knife will, and should, expect better. Some people who spend that amount of money won't. Like I said, mine, and probably many others, came out of the shop 'perfect'. His did not. So either A. He should have paid less or B. it should be fixed.

It's funny, back in the day something like this would not have had this level of acceptance. Now we expect less and pay more?
 
Doesn't anyone bother to read the FAQ sticky? :rolleyes:

From the original post in that thread:

"The spec position for the lock is to cover 75% of the blade. If it falls naturally further than that, we will adjust it."

-Anne Reeve

My first Seb came with a 2/3 lockbar engagement. I've openned and closed it many 100s, if not 1000s of times over the last five years. The lockbar engagement has not changed at all.

Looking at the above photos, it looks about 75% to me. That's a good thing -- it's a secure lockup.
 
KeithAM said:
Doesn't anyone bother to read the FAQ sticky? :rolleyes:

From the original post in that thread:

"The spec position for the lock is to cover 75% of the blade. If it falls naturally further than that, we will adjust it."

-Anne Reeve

My first Seb came with a 2/3 lockbar engagement. I've openned and closed it many 100s, if not 1000s of times over the last five years. The lockbar engagement has not changed at all.

Looking at the above photos, it looks about 75% to me. That's a good thing -- it's a secure lockup.
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This topic should be a colored bold sticky for those who are new :)

This topic (with all due respect to the poster) is far past beating a dead horse...it's a ghost...The Ghost Of Lock Bar Is OK Past :D.
 
Mr. Clean said:
Some people who spend that amount of money on a knife will, and should, expect better. Some people who spend that amount of money won't. Like I said, mine, and probably many others, came out of the shop 'perfect'. His did not. So either A. He should have paid less or B. it should be fixed.

It's funny, back in the day something like this would not have had this level of acceptance. Now we expect less and pay more?
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Please explain "better," including who determined what is better and why.
 
My first Seb came with about 40% lockup. Three or so years later, it's about the same. Those locks take a loooong time to wear. Worst case scenario, you'll (eventually) notice a teensy bit of blade-play, and CRK will fix it under warranty. Wouldn't worry.

CRK uses a litte plastic fob to measure explicitly the difference between the engaged lockbar and the opposite scale. No Sebenza leaves the shop without that. So if the knife is new, that's one less reason to ruminate.
 
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