SNG stronger than Sebbie?

[the45guy]

I like em both !

Got one of each...but don't leave them laying too close together or weird stuff happens...especially if you have this extra slab of .125 TI laying around

I love my SnG

 

[TKD]

Hey man, don't get me wrong, I love the SNG as well, I've just read horror stories about their QA. Come on man, how you gonna beat CRK at their QA man? Others have tried, and failed or come close. I love the SNG in all Ti man. Where did you get the extra Ti slab?

Actually I put in an order for an SNG a while back but customer service at Strider isn't the best I've seen. After reading about the QA stories, I cancelled my order but I found out my order was never recieved, cool.

Hey do you guys remember the Mission MPF? Probably not, I'm not suprised. Oh and the Ryan Wilson & Darrel Ralph Sebenza wannabe knife? They were saying this knife was going to be a Sebenza killer? LOL. Those guys are funny. The SNG, AR, and others will come and go, The Sebenza will stay because It's held the test time. Why do you think the Sebenza is THE folding knife that others are always being compared to?

Oh yea, det, you know nothing of my experience. I'm sorry if I offended you strider fans. But don't worry, I'm an equal opportunity offender. Give me time, I will offend just about everyone.

 

[the45guy]

In my experience , Strider has kickass service and follow up.

The TI slab I bought from a gentleman who brought it to Blade West for me.... now I need to find more !

SnG , AR , Sebby ... it's all good and you can't go wrong with either. But a Nightmare SnG... Sebby just cant touch it


*** No Striders were harmed during the grinding of the new TI scale...it was all done carefully... VERY carefully

 

[harrydog]

I still wish Chris would make a beefed up version of the Sebbie. I know he feels it's not necessary, but there is definitely a market for it.

Keep your eyes open for the Busse folder when it eventually appears. I have a feeling it might be the strongest folder yet.

 

[Mick Strider]

Originally posted by Scott Dog
I believe that Cliff Stamp was able to break a SNG and Strider wouldn't honor their warranty because he was a "tester" and had abused the knife. I doubt that the Strider warranty is any better than the CRK one. Even if the Strider has a thicker blade, if the handle breaks, the thickness of the blade becomes irrelevant.

Someone made that up.
We even replace the ones he breaks.

You guys are doing a great job of not flaming each other. Thanks for that....

You FOR SURE cant go wrong with a Sebbie.....Great knife.

m

 

[det]

Oh yea, det, you know nothing of my experience. I'm sorry if I offended you strider fans. But don't worry, I'm an equal opportunity offender. Give me time, I will offend just about everyone.

OK, here is what I do know.

From what I've seen and experienced the Sebbie's pivot seems a bit more robust than the SNG's. Am I right? please enlighten me.

It is obvious by this post that you have never taken apart both knives to compare. If you would have, you would have been easily able to tell which has the larger pivot. Yet you say that what you have experienced shows the Sebenza has the larger pivot, yet this is not the case. This is why I say your experience is one-sided.

I am a big Sebenza fan. The Sebenza is an excellent knife, very well designed and executed. The SnG just happens to work better for me. Yes, I have used both extensively. If the SnG wasn't around, I am sure I would still be carrying around a Sebenza everyday.

By the way, I take no offense to anything that is said on these forums. You are intitled to your opinion, myself and others are just trying to make sure that what you post is accurate.

 

[slide13]

I am pleased to see that this discussion has remained so civil. Sometimes threads like this have a way of going south real quick.

I have a small Sebenza. It's the first really high quality folder I have ever purchased and I must say, I love it. Everything is great on it, the quality and precision are amazing.

I hoping to add a SNG someday also, as soon as I can afford one.

To me, the two knives are very different, but both are excellent examples of what they are inteded to be. I am also a fan of both of the companies behind the knives, though I have yet to deal with either directly. Both make appearances on these forums, address our concerns with friendly, civil comments. Having Mick come on here and express some praise for the Sebenza furthers that notion. It's nice to see respect from one maker to another, especially when they have competing products.

Since I've gotten seriously into knives, there have been 3 that I have always wanted to get. A Dozier fixed blade, a CR Sebenza, and a Strider folder. I'm 2/3 of the way there and looking forward to getting that last one someday. (working my way up the price scale as I go)

 

[TKD]

Okay det, you win. I'm just some fool who's never experienced an SNG. I guess I'm going to hell. Hey at least I'll have my sebbie with me. FYI, I've done extensive research, and I've seen pictures of both knives taken apart. I still think the pivot for the sebbie is stronger. But I mean, if you can't take it, I understand. Just my opinion man, chill out.

 

[the45guy]

on the whole pivot deal... in reference to strength... are you debating the diameter ... quality of steel or ??

Next time I have both apart I can certainly get the micrometer out and take a few measurements since pictures don't tell the whole story.

I don't think either one would fail though.... just my opinion.

 

[det]

TKD,
Relax bud, it isn't a contest. I think there is just a miscommunication here. The Sebenza's pivot pin actually fits into a bushing, which then fits into the blade. This is nice because it allows you to fully tighten the pivot pin without any effect on the action. The SnG does not have the bushing, just the actual pivot pin. If the bushing is counted, the sizes are very close, but I no longer have a Sebenza to compare.

As for which actually provides the most strength, I couldn't tell you.
The smaller pivot pin with a bushing or a larger pivot pin. I really don't think either will fail.

 

[TKD]

Okay I think were beating a dead horse now. If I see one more thread about the SNG vs the Sebbie, I'll cut my wrists with my sebbie.

 

[Scott Dog]

I'll second that!

 

[L.O. Little]

Originally posted by TKD
The SNG, AR, and others will come and go, The Sebenza will stay because It's held the test time.

I don't know about the others, but I believe the AR/GB, SnG and SMF (selected by SOCOM to be an issue item) will stand the test of time. BTW, I can't wait to get mine (serial #C0002). Here's a pic of one of the prototypes.

 

[L.O. Little]

One more.

 

[dylan_d]

I see no difference between that and the SnG

 

[L.O. Little]

Originally posted by dylan_d
I see no difference between that and the SnG

The difference is size, different (AR/GB type, hollow) pivot and 4 screws vs 3 screws holding it together.

overall length = 9" (AR = 9.44"/SnG = 8.125")
closed length = 5.125" (AR = 5.38"/SnG = 4.6")
slab thickness = .145" (AR = .1"/SnG = .125")
blade thickness = .187" (AR = .187"/SnG = .165")
over all thickness w/out clip = .53" (AR = .66"/SnG = .4375")
blade from center of pivot = 4.40" (AR = 4.63"/SnG = 4")
cutting surface = 3.75" (AR = 3.5"/SnG = 2.9375")
bump stop thickness = .234" (AR = .156"/SnG = ???)
weight = 5.8 ounces (AR = 8.8 ounces/SnG = ???)

 

[L.O. Little]

Here's a Model 1 SnG and an un-numbered prototype SMF.

 

[TheBadGuy]

Theres the money shot. Thats what I really wanted to see Thanks

 

[Elvislives]

I have a Large Sebenza and an SnG.

Great knives, both of them.

Put 'em both though hell, both have served me very well.

Wouldn't give up either of them.

 

[Nathan S]

John, I love that ti scale you put on your SNG. That thing rocks! The only thing that's keeping me from getting an SNG at the moment is the fact that one of the scales is G10. Yeah, I know that the knife is still outrageously strong, but I just don't like G10.

I'd snap up an all - ti handled SNG in a heartbeat!