So i got my Sebenza.........

AlvaroDPD

AlvaroDPD

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and it F%^&*(*^ sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!














Said no Sebenza owner ever! The knife is perfect in every way and i am in absolute love!

I want to thank all of you forum members for helping me, and guiding me to this purchase! Also a big shoutout to Wtlj for giving me a great deal on the knife and even more so for just being an awesome guy! He is super cool and very humble, i would highly recommend working with him!

Thanks,

AL




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Congrats! It took me a while to warm up to my Sebenza. When I first got it I was underwhelmed. Now, it is the one knife I use to compare all other knives to. Enjoy it!
 
rob32 said:
Now, it is the one knife I use to compare all other knives to.
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I see this sentiment expressed frequently. On one hand, I get it...people love their sebenzas, and compare everything to them. Some people aren't quite so enamored with them, but still use them as a sort of benchmark.
I utilize a different system: my "control" is a crappy knife that I was given years ago. There really wasn't anything that I liked about it; though, admittedly, I didn't try hard to find things, either. I compare every knife I get to that thing...and each one wins without fail. With the arbitrary comparison foolishness out of the way, I am free to give the knife a clean slate and judge it on its own merits (and/or faults). I'll apologize now if anybody is offended by my use of the terms arbitrary and foolishness - they're just words; and, if you check my profile, you will see that I have no friends here. My only point is that I would rather try to find things that I like about a knife I have purchased with my hard earned money. Tearing it down seems self defeating...sort of like trying to convince myself that I purchased a subpar knife, AGAIN. I'd like to think that I have enough common sense that I would stop buying "lesser" knives....then again, I suppose it's possible that some of the people saying that are working the same plan I am, just with a higher level control.
Before anybody gets the wrong idea - I'm not a sebenza hater. I have progressed from disinterested, to ambivalence and/or uncertainty...and, ultimately, to appreciation. Yes, I appreciate the Sebenza. I was hoping it would progress beyond that - and it still may - but appreciation is where I sit. Maybe I haven't owned/used them long enough, maybe I just haven't found the right model for me...or, maybe - just maybe - appreciation is where I'll be stuck. Truthfully, I'm okay with that - I like appreciating things; and, when I compare it to my benchmark, I appreciate the sebenza just that much more.

Congrats, AlvaroDPD, on your purchase - may it serve you well, and continue to bring you joy. Have you started thinking about another, yet?
 
hhmoore said:
I see this sentiment expressed frequently. On one hand, I get it...people love their sebenzas, and compare everything to them. Some people aren't quite so enamored with them, but still use them as a sort of benchmark.
I utilize a different system: my "control" is a crappy knife that I was given years ago. There really wasn't anything that I liked about it; though, admittedly, I didn't try hard to find things, either. I compare every knife I get to that thing...and each one wins without fail. With the arbitrary comparison foolishness out of the way, I am free to give the knife a clean slate and judge it on its own merits (and/or faults). I'll apologize now if anybody is offended by my use of the terms arbitrary and foolishness - they're just words; and, if you check my profile, you will see that I have no friends here. My only point is that I would rather try to find things that I like about a knife I have purchased with my hard earned money. Tearing it down seems self defeating...sort of like trying to convince myself that I purchased a subpar knife, AGAIN. I'd like to think that I have enough common sense that I would stop buying "lesser" knives....then again, I suppose it's possible that some of the people saying that are working the same plan I am, just with a higher level control.
Before anybody gets the wrong idea - I'm not a sebenza hater. I have progressed from disinterested, to ambivalence and/or uncertainty...and, ultimately, to appreciation. Yes, I appreciate the Sebenza. I was hoping it would progress beyond that - and it still may - but appreciation is where I sit. Maybe I haven't owned/used them long enough, maybe I just haven't found the right model for me...or, maybe - just maybe - appreciation is where I'll be stuck. Truthfully, I'm okay with that - I like appreciating things; and, when I compare it to my benchmark, I appreciate the sebenza just that much more.

Congrats, AlvaroDPD, on your purchase - may it serve you well, and continue to bring you joy. Have you started thinking about another, yet?
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Your post brings up some interesting points. On the one hand, i can see where you are coming from, it is "silly" to buy a Sebenza with the mind set that it is the absolute best production knife there is. It is also "silly" to then compare every other knife to see where it stands next to a Sebenza. Seems to me that that would be like comparing new people you meet to your absolute best friend and seeing how they stand in comparison (obviously this example is not realistic because people are not "things"). However, your stand on the subject does seem a to take a glass empty or glass half full approach. In other words, i believe you are just doing the exact opposite of some Sebenza owners. Instead of "benchmarking" other knives to see how they stand next to the extreme quality of a Sebenza, you are "benchmarking" to the said "crappy knife". So now instead of seeing how your new knives are way less "good" compared to a Sebenza you are playing a game of how much "better" each knife is to your own personal "crappy knife". to go back to my analogy, it would be like taking every person you met and comparing them to the absolute worst person you ever knew, obviously then most everyone one would seem a whole heck of a lot better.

It seems to me that while your approach is intact more "positive" it seems to be more or less the same game, A.K.A glass have empty vs. glass half full. Personally i think both methods of comparison are a little "silly" ( i mean no disrespect, just strictly opinion here). I love my Sebenza, but i also love my Bradley Alias 2 and i also love my Kershaw Leek from 3 years ago that is so dull it cannot even cut butter. are the latter knives as well made as the Sebenza, probably not. Are the latter knives bad knives, definitely not! The point is i don't feel the need to benchmark or measure any knife or anything for that matter in life.

Of course I've thought of another! i want a small, i want a 25, i want macerate inlays, etc, etc! However, non of those will be purchased anytime soon! I am happy with what i have and i want to make some memories with this knife and truly carry it for a long period of time and see if then a truly love it!

Thanks for your comment hhmore!

Al
 
Congrats, OP! Make sure you carry and use that sucker! The true beauty of the Sebenza is its engineered longevity, imo. The longer I have mine and the more I use it, the more I appreciate it.

-Brett
 
Congrats on the purchase, I am glad it lived up to its hype. A lot of people build it up to be more than it is. I mean, it is a knife, one built to ridiculous tight tolerances, but just an object used to cut things none the less.

I hear regularly that people who sell their first one wish they held on to it, but then others who use the sale to get into other higher end knives like Andre Thorburn.
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I will be keeping my first, and you know the tie that I have with it as being the sole reason.

Good luck and keep us posted on how it treats you regardless of how you use it.
 
AlvaroDPDs Sebenza:
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Dang, now you have to enlist in to the Sebbie snob club... :D
Congrats on owning one of the best production folders out there :thumbup:
 
timberweasel said:
Congrats, OP! Make sure you carry and use that sucker! The true beauty of the Sebenza is its engineered longevity, imo. The longer I have mine and the more I use it, the more I appreciate it.

-Brett
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I agree. After you carry one for many years you'll see how the tight tolerances contribute to its holding up.
I've never even had to tighten a screw, and that's with no Loctite at all.


Congrats, OP :thumbup:
 
Al,
The simple truth is that, while a bit of comparison is human nature, I was merely suggesting that people judge a knife (person, car, whatever) on its own strengths and weaknesses, rather than utilizing an arbitrary (and arguable) standard. If one establishes the sebenza as the standard to which all others are compared, what does it mean when it is surpassed in some category? If, on an individual's scale, that never happens, at what point should they take the hint and stop experiencing other brands? And what of the concept of just liking something? I've got an old Kershaw that I just like. It wouldn't score very high on any serious quality comparison - no argument from me there - but every now and then I pull it out of whatever pack or jacket pocket I've left it in, and rediscover it. I start carrying it again, simply because I like it. I don't waste my time comparing it to something I know is "better" - what difference does that make?. It feels good in my hand, and usually cuts things when I want it to - I accept that, and enjoy it for what it is. Eventually, it gets relegated to a pack or jacket again, and I forget about it for a while. I like that $35 knife better than I like some $200 knives...but I don't see the point in comparisons in either direction. I'm not going to like the cheap knife less because it doesn't compare favorably according to some objective data table, nor will I like the expensive knife more because of its superior materials, better edge holding, etc.
Maybe this is an unusual sentiment - it wouldn't be the first time I was considered unusual, or weird ;), for my way of seeing/doing things.

Anyway - my dinner is ready.
No offense was meant by my ramblings. I do "appreciate" the sebenza...but not nearly on the same level as many others. Take joy in the fact that, as a result, I am not competing for your prized CRKs - unless you happen to be looking for a snakewood mnandi.
After dinner, I'm going to track down that old Kershaw & put it in my pocket.
 
The only thing that a half-full, half-empty comparison does is prove that the parameters for the size of the glass are incorrect.
 
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