...so what is Bushcraft?

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I started this thread so that anyone reading any thread that has to do with some specific aspect of "Bushcraft", and feels the need to define and re-define "Bushcraft", can just post it here. :foot:

I'm just feeling a little cantankerous today, sorry. :grumpy:

You may start your post with "Marcelo, you're an ass" if you like.
 
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LOL, it is good to ask questions, lots of people will have different answers and we all learn. Good thread to start!!!
 
Marcelo, you're an ass !

I think of Bushcraft as a means of thriving in the wild as opposed to surviving in the wild !
 
"Marcelo, you're an ass"

In your own words ;)

No, really, this has been some hot button issue this weekend for whatever reason. It sort of sparked off in the 'No Love for the Hest' thread and then found its way into the 'Recommend a bushcraft knife' thread.

Southern Cross did provide some great quotes and references in the above thread. For whatever reason, there has been this stereotype going around that bushcraft is some kind of yuppy marketing hype. If it is, it must be the most profoundly unsuccessful yuppy marketting strategy I've come across. Most of the yuppies I know have traded in their Beemers for for lexus' but few of them that I know (and believe me I know a bunch) are dawning Swanndri (apparently this is the bushcrafter Uniform) and sparking hardened steel against flint.

Apparently, those who like to say they are 'into bushcraft' are elitist windbags who go out and spend oodles of cash to look like Ray Mears and buy extremely pretty full tang scandi knives. They make youtube videos on a nightly basis. They like to sit cross legged while in their living rooms. Their kitchen drawers are full of spoons they made from fallen limbs off the trees in their backyard. They talk to their houseplants, always first addressing them by Mr. Latin name.

Oh, and they like to refer to survivalists as neanderthal, nature hating, wood bashing bastards.


Did I say that :eek::eek::eek:

None of it is true of course. Except them neanderthal survivalist bastards like to bash stuff :D:D:D I admit it, I used a bic today to light my trianga....Are you guys satisfied???
 
"Bushcraft" is nothing more than a learned set of skills & knowlege that allows one to live outside of 4 walls. There now..the next post can start with " anrkst,shut up smart ass." (you might need more beer than that :)) Feel better Marcelo? Betcha .05 there'll be lots good stuuf put on here....
 
From WIKI:

Bushcraft is a long-term extension of survival skills. A popular term for wilderness skills in Australia, New Zealand and South Africa, the term was popularised in the southern hemisphere by Les Hiddins (The Bush Tucker Man) in Australia as well as in the northern hemisphere by Mors Kochanski and recently gained considerable currency in the United Kingdom due to the popularity of Ray Mears and his bushcraft and survival television programmes. Bushcraft is about surviving and thriving in the natural environment, and the acquisition of ancient skills and knowledge to do so. Bushcraft skills include; firecraft, tracking, hunting, shelter building, the use of tools such as knives and axes, foraging, hand-carving wood, container construction from natural materials, rope and twine-making, and many others. These are the kinds of skills well known to our ancient predecessors, many of which are still practiced today as an everyday skill amongst aboriginal and native peoples around the world.
 
Marcelo, you're an ass.

I didn't want to, but you invited me to ;p

Bushcraft can be many things. It is, to me, getting out and playing in the woods.
 
Marcelo,
I'm satisfied with the term woodsman.
Heard an old AF SERE instructor once say, "We teach mountain man skills, skills that every boy in the 1800's took for granted."
At ease in the timber.
Ed
 
To me, it is a simple set of simple lifestyle "procedures".

Making shelter, finding water, making spoons, making cordage, fire making,
tanning and clothes making, finding wild plants etc. to eat.

Also having the knowledge to use tools and care for them correctly.
Axes, knives, multi-tools, buck saws, etc.

Just simple living, being able to live in the wild!
 
Hey Ed. Nice to see you here. Don't mind me, I'm just misbehaving right now. I'm with you on that though. Although I'll admit I'm not nearly there yet.
 
What is good about this board is that the "Wilderness & Survival Skills" forum focuses on life and skills in the wilderness. Other boards focus on surviving SHTF or TEWAWKI.

I think there are lessons to learn from 'bush craft' for a survival situation. I am more of a 'leave no trace' modern equipment type of backpacker. 'Bush crafters' that employ it on a regular basis are similar to guys who like to hunt with a muzzle loader instead of a modern rifle; they like the challenge of it. I don't think a 'bush crafter' is any better than a person that uses modern techniques. They are just different.
 
Bushcraft is just another term for bush survival , IMO. Just semantics meaning the same thing.
 
Some good answers here. Even the WiKi def. was pretty good. At the risk of being redundant, let me add a few thoughts....

Here is what I wrote in an other thread on bushcraft blades concerning bushcraft with a little added:

As I'm somewhat (or very!) old school in my idea of bushcraft; I too see it as the skills. More importantly, the indigenous and locally based skills.

Knifecraft or Campcraft is an aspect of the whole. I agree with the common saying, 'the best knife is the one at hand', but more identify bushcraft as 'being in one's element'. I believe the peak of bushcraft is not needing a knife; but when having a need for a cutting implement, being able to easily improvise with what is provided and achieve similar results.

The term Bushcraft is one that I don't really use much. I associate the term with the Australian Bush, as well as more recently, the Northern Wilderness.

The problem is the generalizations. Trying to apply an approach to the whole. Being in a Mediterranean climate, I see woodlands, riparian, chaparral, desert, coastal sand dune, mountains, etc. I don't necessarily always apply the practices or natural materials in each area to the whole. Each realm or plant community has its own unique feel and approach. The diversity of skills mirrors the diversity of the areas they are practiced in. This also emphasizes heavily on awareness. One of my teachers always said: 'Respect the principles, challenge the methods.'

I always took this as: 'learn and respect the principles, and challenge the methods, after learning them, without needing to re-invent the wheel."

As well, returning to 'being in one's element', I am of the mind that without a knife, a true bushman should still be in his element. Without a pack, still be in his element. This is what I strive for with my skills. So that a saunter through the woods is no different from any other journey into the woods.
Reliancy on gear or tools should not be confused with utter dependancy. To put trust in a tool is different than committing entirely to it....

But for me, it also implies art. In this we find ritual, or even tradition.

Take the throwing stick, for example:

It can be made in a variety of ways, and will give you that much back.
More commonly these days, it is a picked up stick, either carved somewhat or not at all and thrown club-like at a rabbit. It will last you so many times and is only so efficient.
Now let's look at how certain Native California tribes made them. On a full moon (they understood hydraulics, this will come into play in fire-hardening), they would go to a high altitude, 2,000ft. or so, and collect the perfect branch of a Scrub Oak. They would fire heat with the bark on (the amount of moisture escaping quickly caused the grains to tighten that much more and would not crack with the bark on), then bend into shape, either in a tree nook or fulcrum made of rocks. After bent and heated once more, then they would shape it into a long, slender throwing stick, and smooth on rock and then rub fat or grease into. they would also generally make two, and take two when hunting.
This would soar yards and be used on deer, coyote, fox, rabbit, bird, squirrel, all kinds. It would last a lifetime and even be passed down as an heirloom.
So we see art contributing to peak performance and skill. It is an aspect of human culture that cannot be excluded. I see aspects of self expression as well in this....
 
Since I pretty much live on the CRK forum, I came to this WS&S forum on a friends recommendation. Some of the things mentioned I have read about, but never practiced it. I just bought a woodland camo fatboy and am looking to fill it with Your Knowledge and Tips !!! Thanks for all the info, I will sit back and enjoy the read.............
 
bushcraft is a nothing more than a elitist snooty buzzword for going out into the woods and playing.
 
Me, I just like to go out and do things. I like to learn new things. I like to practice the things I've learned. I like being outdoors in the wilderness. I don't care how you label it, I just think it's fun, and valuable stuff to know.

If I were to put a label on it (for myself) I would probably say that I'm what Ken called "a neanderthal survivalist bastard who like to bash stuff." Why do I suspect that there are more like me who fit that label than there are highfalutin "Bushcrafters?"
 
Some good answers here. Even the WiKi def. was pretty good. At the risk of being redundant, let me add a few thoughts....

Here is what I wrote in an other thread on bushcraft blades concerning bushcraft with a little added:

As I'm somewhat (or very!) old school in my idea of bushcraft; I too see it as the skills. More importantly, the indigenous and locally based skills.

Knifecraft or Campcraft is an aspect of the whole. I agree with the common saying, 'the best knife is the one at hand', but more identify bushcraft as 'being in one's element'. I believe the peak of bushcraft is not needing a knife; but when having a need for a cutting implement, being able to easily improvise with what is provided and achieve similar results.

The term Bushcraft is one that I don't really use much. I associate the term with the Australian Bush, as well as more recently, the Northern Wilderness.

The problem is the generalizations. Trying to apply an approach to the whole. Being in a Mediterranean climate, I see woodlands, riparian, chaparral, desert, coastal sand dune, mountains, etc. I don't necessarily always apply the practices or natural materials in each area to the whole. Each realm or plant community has its own unique feel and approach. The diversity of skills mirrors the diversity of the areas they are practiced in. This also emphasizes heavily on awareness. One of my teachers always said: 'Respect the principles, challenge the methods.'

I always took this as: 'learn and respect the principles, and challenge the methods, after learning them, without needing to re-invent the wheel."

As well, returning to 'being in one's element', I am of the mind that without a knife, a true bushman should still be in his element. Without a pack, still be in his element. This is what I strive for with my skills. So that a saunter through the woods is no different from any other journey into the woods.
Reliancy on gear or tools should not be confused with utter dependancy. To put trust in a tool is different than committing entirely to it....

But for me, it also implies art. In this we find ritual, or even tradition.

Take the throwing stick, for example:

It can be made in a variety of ways, and will give you that much back.
More commonly these days, it is a picked up stick, either carved somewhat or not at all and thrown club-like at a rabbit. It will last you so many times and is only so efficient.
Now let's look at how certain Native California tribes made them. On a full moon (they understood hydraulics, this will come into play in fire-hardening), they would go to a high altitude, 2,000ft. or so, and collect the perfect branch of a Scrub Oak. They would fire heat with the bark on (the amount of moisture escaping quickly caused the grains to tighten that much more and would not crack with the bark on), then bend into shape, either in a tree nook or fulcrum made of rocks. After bent and heated once more, then they would shape it into a long, slender throwing stick, and smooth on rock and then rub fat or grease into. they would also generally make two, and take two when hunting.
This would soar yards and be used on deer, coyote, fox, rabbit, bird, squirrel, all kinds. It would last a lifetime and even be passed down as an heirloom.
So we see art contributing to peak performance and skill. It is an aspect of human culture that cannot be excluded. I see aspects of self expression as well in this....

great post Paleojoe... i couldn't agree more...:thumbup: i have always been fascinated with primitive skills/living and those that are able to adapt to their surrounding's and live simply and comortably..
 
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