So what's so great about titanium locks?

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I personally think its because its TOUGHER and Lighter, but sacrifices hardness so it gets scratches more easily
 
I greatly prefer titanium for its corrosion resistance & light weight.

The fact is ANY frame/liner lock is dealing with either exacting tolerances or a sloppy lockup. That is the genius with the axis lock. The acceptable tolerances are much more variable than required with a liner/frame lock. I guarantee it is the major reason Benchmade uses it so often.

So the point I'd like to make is that there will always be a few examples of any production knife (the higher production, the more examples) using this type of lock regardless of the lock/handle material. We don't hear a lot of bitching about cheaper knives (typically steel lockbars) because not only do 95% of the buyers not visit bladeforums, but they don't even know what the "ideal" function of their knife should be. Bladeforums members are here to seek better and better info/products. Titanium is expensive & will typically be found on knives that are higher end. There is actually a very good reason why a sebenza costs $400. Chances are slim to none that you will get a problem child. For whatever reason, people expect a $250 Ti frame lock to hold up to CRK standards because CRK is indeed the yardstick for comparison. It just ain't gonna happen no matter what materials are used. Sure, there ARE perfectly made expensive -but less expensive- knives. But there will surely be several poor examples as well.

That said, I much prefer the simplicity of a frame lock. In the 25 years of the Sebenza it has definitely proven itself as not only reliable, but also ideal for this specific purpose. I say GO Ti GO!!!
 
Because they are tier 1 hard use tools......:thumbup:
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It pangs me to type this as I'm having to disagree with my bladeforums hero one Powernoodle. Titanium is the ultimate or near the ultimate bend don't break material i.e. it is very springy meaning it excels at being placed under a load during movement and then going back through the same movement without undergoing a lot of stress or wear if you will. Titanium is VERY TOUGH and at the same times wears very well. Also unless you your going to put your knife in boiling sea water or a handful of acids most of which will have to be at temps over 200 F then your titanium handle is NOT GOING TO RUST, EVER. It is far superior to steel for a liner lock or frame lock, also I would wager that HEST frame lock they Nuntfancy crumpled was not heat treated properly or manufactured problem or both. So if as some stated Titanium is the bacon of the knifeworld their are apparently contrary to popular beliefs legitimate scientific reasons for it. Just sayin. Sorry there PN.
 
MikeC said:
Titanium is the ultimate or near the ultimate bend don't break material i.e. it is very springy meaning it excels at being placed under a load during movement and then going back through the same movement without undergoing a lot of stress or wear if you will.
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True (wear in the sense of fatigue in bending of the material)

MikeC said:
Titanium is VERY TOUGH and at the same times wears very well.
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If by very well, you mean faster then steel then yes:D (talking lock face).

MikeC said:
It is far superior to steel for a liner lock or frame lock, also I would wager that HEST frame lock they Nuntfancy crumpled was not heat treated properly or manufactured problem or both.
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Ehh, it's more about lock design then steel vs. Ti.

I'd bet it was fine, the HEST lock face it untreated, he batoned it and deform the shit out of the lock face, hence the lock rock. I'm not saying steel would have fared much better, just saying the knife was perfectly fine from the factory.

Not trying to pick on ya MikeC, you were just the last post and easiest to quote:D:thumbup:

-sh00ter
 
I'd never trust a Ti framelock knife to baton through wood, chop down a tree and do my taxes. Actually, I wouldn't trust any folding knife to do them. Some locks are tougher than others, but it's only a matter of time... Even fixed blades have a lifespan.

I also would never trust a hatchet for circumcision.

Only once you truly recognize and accept your limitations, can you live without them.
 
powernoodle said:
Yeah, many of you guys barf at the name Nutnfancy. Thats cool. And yeah, he batons on this Ti framelock DPX Hest because it is billed as a hard use survival knife. We don't do that with our Sebenzas and Sage II's.

But Ti is soft (in relative terms), and the lockbar on this Hest deforms under hard use. Its why Spyderco added a steel insert on the Ti Military, which was not used in the first production model.

I know, I know. Don't beat it with a log and it won't deform. I get it. This is just a data point to throw into the steel vs. titanium lockbar calculus. :thumbup:

If you care to, watch at 25:00, and closely at 25:43.

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Yah.... that guy.

Well a good trick is to simply unlock the knife and baton like that. Worked for me when I forgot my fixed blade. No TI damage to speak of.
 
SMI said:
Yah.... that guy.

Well a good trick is to simply unlock the knife and baton like that. Worked for me when I forgot my fixed blade. No TI damage to speak of.
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Brilliant! Good little tidbit of info to keep packed away!
 
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