SOG Creed

[Mistwalker]

Nice review, Mistwalker:thumbup: I really like the design, but I really wish they'd omitted the groove in the blade. IMHO, it's an unnecessary distraction from an otherwise sleek-looking blade. Of course, if they put out a version with a leather handle, I may just go ahead and overlook that little flaw

Thanks Walt, yeah, I have a major thing for the aesthetics and feel of leather too. But this thing sure has a positive grip! I'm not crazy about fullers either....

Neat video Brian, the first log you chopped is the same way I chop small logs too, it really works like a charm when you do it that way.
I like the split retention strap, I might have to try one like that. do you think it would work for a Warthorn or 1-0?

I am not sure about the blade shape just yet. It might have to grow on me some lol. I will keep looking at the pics you posted

Take care,

Bryan

Thanks Bryan, yeah to me that is the quickest way to chop a small log...chop so far all around and then break, saves on the edge and the arm.

I'll have to do some drawing and thinking. The split retention strap is made possible by the off-set in the sheath due to the wide tip of the knife...not sure how it could be done on a clip point design with making the sheath a lot wider than it needs to be. Would definitely work on that "chopper design I mentioned though. We'll talk about that more later.

Would like to see a Mr. Breeden version of that

I wouldn't mind seeing an interpretation of it in a full tang myself.

I wanted one of these after seeing a review on Youtube. I want one more after seeing it preform. From what I've read on this knife the stainless preforms well. Going back to that other thread recently contrasting the two (carbon vs stainless). What is a "Blood grove" designed for anyway?

Glad you liked the write-up.

Lol, not blood...google the term fuller and do some reading

SOG should have their AUS8 down pat,they have been using it for 20+ years.I have one of their fixed blade Tridents w/micarta handles that I bought new in 87 or 88,It's a good knife.That Creed looks like a keeper.Nice write up,thanks mist!

Glad you enjoyed it!

I didn't realize they had been using it that long, thanks for the input.

 

[WVHILLS]

Nice write up, I would like the knife more if it were not hollow ground.

 

[Mistwalker]

Nice write up, I would like the knife more if it were not hollow ground.

I tend think of flat and convex edge grinds as a lot stronger laterally than hollow grinds myself. But the hollow grind on this knife is not as deep as some out there and I was pleased with the chunks of wood the knife threw when chopping.

 

[retzius]

The Aus8 that SOG is using is some of the best in the business.

I am not sure who makes it for them but they do a damn good job.

Personally, I would much rather have a well made SS blade than a 1095 blade if I was in the bush for a long period of time (climate dependant). I like how forgiving 1095 is and I dont mind it where I currently live (Southern California), but when I was living in Wisconsin 1095 blades rusted just looking at them.

I also like the "fully wrapped" handles that SOG is using. I know this is bad to say here, but for the most part I hate the current trend of micarta (insert any material here) slabs attached to the side of a full height tang handle. They get really cold in winter and they dont afford the same kind of shock absorbtion that a full wrap does. They look cool, but last time I was in the bush the trees didnt seem to care how my knife looked.

Great review. :thumbup:

Put another 2 inches on that knife and I would buy 2.

 

[Mistwalker]

The Aus8 that SOG is using is some of the best in the business.

I am not sure who makes it for them but they do a damn good job.

Personally, I would much rather have a well made SS blade than a 1095 blade if I was in the bush for a long period of time (climate dependant). I like how forgiving 1095 is and I dont mind it where I currently live (Southern California), but when I was living in Wisconsin 1095 blades rusted just looking at them.

I also like the "fully wrapped" handles that SOG is using. I know this is bad to say here, but for the most part I hate the current trend of micarta (insert any material here) slabs attached to the side of a full height tang handle. They get really cold in winter and they dont afford the same kind of shock absorbtion that a full wrap does. They look cool, but last time I was in the bush the trees didnt seem to care how my knife looked.

Great review. :thumbup:

Put another 2 inches on that knife and I would buy 2.

Thanks man, I'm glad you liked the review.

I'm thinking that must be the case. I have heard some bad things said about some of the AUS8 used by some other companies but I have yet to have a problem with any AUS8 SOG knife I've ever owned.

For me it is area dependant also. Here in the Tennessee hills, even though it rains quite often, I prefer hi-carbon, but when I was in the Gulf (of Mexico) wading in the surf spearing fish and catching crustaceans I learned really quick that I needed a stainless knife. I am glad SOG is making such good stainless...I keep hearing that TN may some day be closer to the ocean.

I do like full tang knives, but I do like a well made hidden tang as well....not crazy about the smaller, more easily broken "stick-tangs" though.

You never know what SOG may put out next.

 

[A.L.]

Thanks for the good review!
Lot's of steels are underrated today, or should I say that there is steel snobbyism more than ever?

 

[Mistwalker]

Thanks for the good review!
Lot's of steels are underrated today, or should I say that there is steel snobbyism more than ever?

Thanks man, I'm really glad you enjoyed the review.

Well...I can see that. There have always been "snobby isms" and elite isms of one sort or another, cars, guns, wines, women, you name it...there always have been and always will be the "my horse is faster than your horse" sort of stances because that is the undying spirit of competition. Competition is generally a good thing, and on the whole tends to bring about better and better products and keeps prices down with the absence of monopolies. (will Wal-Mart's prices stay so low when they are all we are left with?). Yes, I agree that there are some underrated steels, but I think the primary stigma with the stainless steels stems from all the crappy import stainless that was coming into the US in the 70's and 80's even into the 90's from different parts of the world...China, and Pakistan immediately jump to mind. I know I personally became prejudiced towards stainless because of those steels and have only recently had my eyes opened. The great industrial advantage that the U.S. held over the rest of the world after WWII could by all logic only last for so long. Since then the other industrialized nations of the world have been working hard on their respective industries and infrastructures and, just like us, have been forced into competing in a global market place. To me it only stands to reason that eventually the technological and industrial playing field would someday become more level.

 

[haloblue]

This is an excellent review.

I have a couple of SOG's, one of which, a Seal Pup Elite, has a permanent place in my get home kit.

Getting a lot of bang for your buck with these guys. I think I'll order a Creed tonight and try it out myself.

Thanks again for the wonderful review.

 

[Mistwalker]

This is an excellent review.

I have a couple of SOG's, one of which, a Seal Pup Elite, has a permanent place in my get home kit.

Getting a lot of bang for your buck with these guys. I think I'll order a Creed tonight and try it out myself.

Thanks again for the wonderful review.

Thanks HB, glad you enjoyed the review. I have SOG knives in more than one kit and so far none have failed any task I've tried them at. I think you'll see that the knife is a good user and handles very well.

 

[sicily02]

Hi all,

mistwalker, I see what you mean about the sheath being wider. I would like to keep mine from being to wide lol.

You know what this Creed knife makes me think of? Last night I new it was some knife I had seen, but could not put my finger on it. Until this morning when I was looking through Horace Kepharts camping book. It makes me think of a Marbles Wood craft knife, that Horace has a pic of in his book on page 167 in the chapter called Personal kits. but with a longer blade. I was thinking about making me up a Marbles wood craft knife,(I would like to see how the Woodcraft design does against the Deweese design)
but with the full tang of course and with a couple of little changes.
When it gets cold outside and I plan on being outside when it is cold, I put gloves on
I have lived in Alaska. when the temps drop, wheather you pic up a full tang knife or a leather wrapped one if it is cold already you are going to need to put gloves on to use your knife. Remeber the exsposed part of any flesh will and can freeze with in a seconds. When the temps drop to around 50 degrees below 0 you can spit and it will freeze solid before it hits the ground.

I hear people say the full tang knives will be harder to use IF it is COLD. it does not matter you will still have cold hands. You will have to cover and protect your hands to even use your knife. Just something to think about.

Caine, lol thanks. Maybe after mistwalker has used this knife from SOG some, He and I will get together for a little knife designing . who knows.

Take care all,

Bryan

 

[vector001]

this is kind of a unique knife for some subtle reasons that i didn't see mentioned.

the increased mass at the tip of the blade is counter-ballast to that pommel on the other end, so you get a center-balanced knife that shops like a tip-heavy knife, because of the faster natural rotation with the advantage of a smaller-length knife.

it's a lot like how a proper long hawk is held, taking advantage of the ballast in the butt to make the little head chop and sink deeply. using impulse instead of inertia.

those guys at SOG are pretty smart apparently.

i hope they get a carbon version out.


let me be one more to add; good job, brother 'walker.

vec

 

[Mistwalker]

Hi all,

mistwalker, I see what you mean about the sheath being wider. I would like to keep mine from being to wide lol.

You know what this Creed knife makes me think of? Last night I new it was some knife I had seen, but could not put my finger on it. Until this morning when I was looking through Horace Kepharts camping book. It makes me think of a Marbles Wood craft knife, that Horace has a pic of in his book on page 167 in the chapter called Personal kits. but with a longer blade. I was thinking about making me up a Marbles wood craft knife,(I would like to see how the Woodcraft design does against the Deweese design)
but with the full tang of course and with a couple of little changes.
When it gets cold outside and I plan on being outside when it is cold, I put gloves on
I have lived in Alaska. when the temps drop, wheather you pic up a full tang knife or a leather wrapped one if it is cold already you are going to need to put gloves on to use your knife. Remeber the exsposed part of any flesh will and can freeze with in a seconds. When the temps drop to around 50 degrees below 0 you can spit and it will freeze solid before it hits the ground.

I hear people say the full tang knives will be harder to use IF it is COLD. it does not matter you will still have cold hands. You will have to cover and protect your hands to even use your knife. Just something to think about.

Caine, lol thanks. Maybe after mistwalker has used this knife from SOG some, He and I will get together for a little knife designing . who knows.

Take care all,

Bryan

Sounds good to me Bryan, you know me and my always...having thoughts lol.

this is kind of a unique knife for some subtle reasons that i didn't see mentioned.

the increased mass at the tip of the blade is counter-ballast to that pommel on the other end, so you get a center-balanced knife that shops like a tip-heavy knife, because of the faster natural rotation with the advantage of a smaller-length knife.

it's a lot like how a proper long hawk is held, taking advantage of the ballast in the butt to make the little head chop and sink deeply. using impulse instead of inertia.

those guys at SOG are pretty smart apparently.

i hope they get a carbon version out.


let me be one more to add; good job, brother 'walker.

vec

I think you may have nailed it. And the pommel definitely makes a good counter weight also.

Thanks bro, glad you liked the review!

 

[heheheq]

SOG Creed is really good for chopping and more delicate works. After some experience, I don;t really like using it for doing something like gutting a fish or something; it has a tendency to come out very hard to clean, and is pressed to sever tendons and such(Though I may be just be gutting it wrong)

 

[Mistwalker]

SOG Creed is really good for chopping and more delicate works. After some experience, I don;t really like using it for doing something like gutting a fish or something; it has a tendency to come out very hard to clean, and is pressed to sever tendons and such(Though I may be just be gutting it wrong)

I haven't tried it out on fish or game yet. I can see it being better for game than fish though. I'd usually rather have a smaller knife for fish though I have used a large one in the past.

 

[venomintake]

Great review mistwalker!

I was wondering though, did the coating wear off after all that chopping?

 

[Mistwalker]

Great review mistwalker!

I was wondering though, did the coating wear off after all that chopping?

Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it.

Ironically the second picture in the thread was the last picture I took of the knife, and the first pic in the thread was taken earlier than it but after almost all of the chopping had already been done The finish has held up really well, and it cleaned up good.

 

[tholiver]

If it was in a carbon steel, I would get it, for sure. I don't prefer stainless in a knife that is 1/4 thick. Great write up :thumbup:

Did someone say carbon steel?
Check this out
Boker USMC Force Recon Bowie
http://www.heinnie.com/X8kygy835819/Knives/Böker/Boker-USMC-Force-Recon-Bowie/p-92-116-677/

Looks familiar eh?

 

[tholiver]

Great review by the way!
:thumbup:

 

[Mistwalker]

Did someone say carbon steel?
Check this out
Boker USMC Force Recon Bowie
http://www.heinnie.com/X8kygy835819/Knives/Böker/Boker-USMC-Force-Recon-Bowie/p-92-116-677/

Looks familiar eh?

Wow! Same exact handle... guard, leather, and pommel as the original SOG Bowie, even the sheath looks the same. Though I had never heard anything about those...heard a lot about Ka-Bars in Nam but not these. 244 pounds seems a bit steep though, I wish SOG had put this one out I might be able to afford it and I'd love to have one...just not at that price at this time. I love that one review, I get the feeling the guy is more of a bushcrafter than a combatant.


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[tholiver]

Wow! Same exact handle... guard, leather, and pommel as the original SOG Bowie, even the sheath looks the same. Though I had never heard anything about those...heard a lot about Ka-Bars in Nam but not these. 244 pounds seems a bit steep though, I wish SOG had put this one out I might be able to afford it and I'd love to have one...just not at that price at this time. I love that one review, I get the feeling the guy is more of a bushcrafter than a combatant.


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Yeah the price is out to lunch!
But the knife prices in the U.K always seem to run 2-5 times the American street price.
I have looked for it from U.S sellers but haven't had any luck.
Boker has an extensive model selection but are really underrepresented in the inventories of online sellers.
Yeah the review guy was definitely a little narrow in what he thought makes a "proper" knife,lol!