Sog flash II or Spyderco?

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buttalike

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Hello everyone,

I'm new here, and I'm in the marked for an affordable (>$100) knife. I have been obsessing on the internet, looking up youtube reviews, and browsing many forums. All the knives I see are great, but I want a all-around light, sharp, high-quality (steel too) blade that won't break my wallet. I have been considering the S.O.G. Flash II (non serr) and several from the spyderco line such as the D4wave, Endura wave, and the mini caly3 to name a few. Can anyone give me some sound advise on these knives. I also want a blade with a thing profile too! I know I'm picky :) Thanks
 
look at the Benchmade 745. If you want something really slim Spyderco has tons of options for you.
I carried a SOG FLash II for a few weeks at work and i caught the clip on something and it broke right off. So thats a strike against it, other than that it was a great knife tho.
 
A knife with a thin profile made my spyderco is the rookie or the police, only problem is that they might be a little over $100.
some other knives that you might be interested would be boker subcom or kershaw chive or shallot.

good luck :thumbup:
 
I forgot to mention in my original post that I also want my knife to be easily employable (i.e. something I'll be able to get out and open quick), have defensible qualities (large enough), but not so large that I won't want to carry it (4oz. or under).
 
yep, you got it. But nutnfancy can't help me alone. I need other opinions about blades from people who carry them.
 
The Kershaws are assisted openers, but I have a spyderco Para-military that opens pretty quicly and is a nice size folder.

Also I don't recommend carrying around a knife for deffensive purposes or even using a knife for deffense, anything you bring into a fight can be used agianst you.
 
Checkout the Spyderco Sage. It's not too big and not too small, S30V steel, CF scales, thin and light and right around $85 street, give or take a few.

It's a top value IMHO
 
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Any of the knives you mention would be fine in the Spyderco line. I personally don't like SOGs and think you can get better materials and better knives for the $$$.

I like the Spyderco Native if you can still find them at Wal*Mart. I like the Enduras and I like the Buck Alaskan 110 at Cabela's for $69. Very nice finish, leather case and S30V. If you do a search there, just search for "Alaskan knives" to get best results.

Almost anything you like from Benchmade will be a winner, too, in my book.
 
buttalike said:
I want a all-around light, sharp, high-quality (steel too) blade that won't break my wallet.
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buttalike said:
I forgot to mention in my original post that I also want my knife to be easily employable (i.e. something I'll be able to get out and open quick), have defensible qualities (large enough), but not so large that I won't want to carry it (4oz. or under).
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The solution for you: Spyderco Waved Endura 4. it pops out as you pull it from your pocket, the endura has a 3-13/16in blade, and weighs 3.6oz. You will be amazed at how easily it is to forget you even have a knife that big in your pocket. If the wave isn't your thing, then get a regular Endura 4, or Delica 4. (Delica is smaller)

Don't go sog. I Have had very bad experiences with them, and none with Spyderco. Benchmades are also worth a look as previously suggested.

Here's the Endura4 Waved http://www.newgraham.com/detail.aspx?ID=5709, http://www.newgraham.com/detail.aspx?ID=45401, http://www.newgraham.com/detail.aspx?ID=45402
 
thank you very much for you're suggestions. I have been looking hard at the endura4 waved but have a few questions about it. I saw a review on youtube that said it had some play in the lockup. Do most of them have a little play or was it just a fluke? Does the blade fall open sometimes with the wave? (knowing how sharp they are this would be a bad situation.
 
The waved knives are easy to control as far as them opening on you. If you carry clipped to the right front pocket, draw and pull the knife towards your rear and you'll activate the wave. To draw without waving, pull forward as you draw. You can even wrap your fingers around the blade if you really want to be sure it stays closed when you draw it.


I recommend the Endura Wave, Military, Paramilitary or similar. Whichever one looks like it would suite you best. Most Spyderco lockbacks will wiggle at the lock up slightly when you put pressure on the cutting edge. Enough to be noticeable, but small enough amounts that it won't affect use. Some of them are play free as well.

I saw Nutnfancy's review as well and noticed he didn't cover ergonomics at all. I was curious to see what he thought of the handle. I have no experience with SOG so I don't know how the rest of the design stands up to use, but holding the Flash 2 I'm convinced it wasn't designed for human hands. At least, not my hands. No grip feels even remotely good to me, but it might be different for others. *shrug*

Regardless every Flash I've handled has had worse vertical play than the loosest of my Spyderco lockbacks.
 
Anything spyderco not sog unless your willing to buy the high end models.
The first half decent knife i bought was the flash 2 still have it but its poor quality compared to anything from spyderco benchmade etc.
 
Get a Military! It's one of the best designed folders you could ever possibly ask for: a rock-solid lock, extremely lightweight, excellent ergonomics, beautiful edge geometry, unbeatable edge retention, and it's habitually available for at or under $100 on the street.

If you're interested in something a little smaller (than Military has around a four-inch blade), I enjoy very much carrying my Caly3, my Spyderco Lava, and you can't go wrong with the Delica or Endura. The G10 Delica is awesome, and is also available for around a hundred dollars.

My girlfriend bought me a SOG Flash I as a gift, and it's a nice little knife, but the AUS-8A steel does leave something to be desired and it has developed immense blade play; still trying to resolve those issues.

On the other hand, my Spydercos have been beat up far worse and are still go strong. :thumbup:

Those who know, carry Spyderco.
 
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Why plain? Whats better about plain than the waved edition?
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I can think of two reasons fairly quickly:

1) People not of the knife carrying persuasion will generally react more favorably to a knife that isn't built with self defense in mind. Some might say that the Wave isn't designed for SD, or that they use it for something entirely different (i.e. rescue), but if somebody that doesn't know knives walks up and asks you why there's a little steel tab on the top of your blade, and you tell them it's for faster deployment, they could get the wrong idea (or the right idea, depending on what idea you're trying to convey in the first place).

2) It might rip your pant pockets to shreds with repeated use.

If you keep an eye on the Emerson forum, another company that employs the Wave, you will see a lot of people doing something called a "Wave-ectomy" to get rid of the Wave their knives came with. I think that from the point of view of using knives as tools, many consider it a superfluous design.

I personally don't have an opinion, I don't own any, nor am I completely opposed to getting any, these are just things I've read. Hope it helps.
 
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