Sog flash II or Spyderco?

Go with the Endura-waved or not, vg-10 or zdp-189. Anyway you go, you get a great knife for under $100. No entry level SOG even compares. The blade on the endura is well suited for utility (which in all likelihood is all it will ever see), and defense. If the need arises for a thinner blade then you can always send it in to Tom Krein for a $35.00 regrind which will effectively allow it to cut through the very fabric of existence. Now seriously, how can you top that.
 
My wave hasn't torn up my pocket in the least bit. And as for how people react, that's their problem. Buy a knife because it suits your needs and wants, not because you're afraid that people will freak out when you pull it from your pocket.

Sorry, I'm not feeling very PC today
 
Jake Bauer said:
My wave hasn't torn up my pocket in the least bit. And as for how people react, that's their problem. Buy a knife because it suits your needs and wants, not because you're afraid that people will freak out when you pull it from your pocket.

Sorry, I'm not feeling very PC today
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Don't be sorry, that's your opinion/experience. Like I stated, I don't have any experience with Wave products, but I've read/watched videos explaining that after a while, they can chew up your pockets.

Unfortunately, I live in an area where carrying a knife as a tool and carrying a knife for self defense can cause two very different reactions, be it from civilians or law enforcement officials. I carry a griptilian in my messenger bag strictly as a tool, and have been stopped on more than one occasion at building entrances with metal detectors and asked why I am carrying a knife, despite the fact that it's in my bag, and not on my person. It's taken a fair bit of convincing to make guards understand why I'm even carrying in the first place, even though I'm well within my rights to EDC such a tool.

So, in my case, regardless of whether I want to or not, I have to be conscious of what I'm carrying, why I'm carrying it, and where. Guess it all depends, right?
 
no question for me, spyderco endura, no wave, just don't like that feature. great knife for the money.
 
For those who carry the endura4, do you sometimes feel like you don't need that much knife in your pocket? I am having seconds thoughts as to whether I will or not. I am still considering the endura4, delica4, caly3, pacific salt, para-military(don't like the perm. clip though), Tenacious(don't like the steel though). You can see I'm pretty much set on getting a spyderco:) I can't wait to see what all the hype is about.
 
The Endura may look as if it is bulky and awkward, but once it's in the hand it becomes a natural extension. Until just recently I was not a fan of the Endura. You have to hold one and use one to really judge it. It's making me rethink a few of my past purchases. I am a total convert. It's an inexpensive tool that becomes indispensable very quickly.
 
Go with the Endura, you won't regret it. But whatever your get, make sure it has a pivot screw adjustment. I know that some spyderco knives do not (the native), and I find that to be a deal breaker for me. Ive had even my grip lockup loosen on me, but a quick turn of that screw and its all better. Rather than suffer through a wobbley lockup, make sure you have a means of fixing it.
 
I know I have a lot of questions for you guys, but you should know that your answers are really helping to guide my decision. BTW what are your opinions on the benchmade Griptillian vs. the enduras or delicas?
 
Ahh, didn't notice you live in the DC dip. I understand your point.

I checked my E4W tonight and there is Zero side to side blade play, and only the slightest vertical blade play which comes naturally from lockbacks.

The E4 is not that big, especially once you feel how light it is. You wont even feel it in your pocket. Just buy one and if it's too big for you, sell it and buy a Delica. However, if you're like me, you will love the endura so much that you will want a delica too, and your probs will be solved

PS, i have one griptillian and 3, (about to have 4) Enduras. Love them both, but the Spyderco fits my hand better, and its easier on my hand after extended use.
 
Again, I have a question about the wave feature on the endura/delica. I really like the wave feature, but I also like the look of the full blade. Does the popular "ghetto hook"(ziptie) work well?
 
Jake Bauer said:
Ahh, didn't notice you live in the DC dip. I understand your point.

I checked my E4W tonight and there is Zero side to side blade play, and only the slightest vertical blade play which comes naturally from lockbacks.

The E4 is not that big, especially once you feel how light it is. You wont even feel it in your pocket. Just buy one and if it's too big for you, sell it and buy a Delica. However, if you're like me, you will love the endura so much that you will want a delica too, and your probs will be solved

PS, i have one griptillian and 3, (about to have 4) Enduras. Love them both, but the Spyderco fits my hand better, and its easier on my hand after extended use.
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No trouble at all. They sure can be uptight around here.
 
buttalike said:
Again, I have a question about the wave feature on the endura/delica. I really like the wave feature, but I also like the look of the full blade. Does the popular "ghetto hook"(ziptie) work well?
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Granted, I don't have experience with the wave and probably am not up on all the wave jargon, but I'm not sure what you mean. "Ghetto hook?"
 
buttalike said:
Hello everyone,

I'm new here, and I'm in the marked for an affordable (>$100) knife. I have been obsessing on the internet, looking up youtube reviews, and browsing many forums. All the knives I see are great, but I want a all-around light, sharp, high-quality (steel too) blade that won't break my wallet. I also want a blade with a thin profile too! I know I'm picky :) Thanks
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buttalike said:
I forgot to mention in my original post that I also want my knife to be easily employable (i.e. something I'll be able to get out and open quick), have defensible qualities (large enough), but not so large that I won't want to carry it (4oz. or under).
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Welcome to the forums!

Take a look at Kershaw's Composite Blade Shallot. About $ 85. 3 1/2 " blade, 4 ounces and thin. As for wanting high quality steel, this knife utilizes Kershaw's patented Composite Blade technology. A spine of Sandvik 14C28N fused to a cutting edge of ZDP-189 (about as high end as you can get!). Large enough to handle most all cutting chores, and comes in a very thin, small footprint. SpeedSafe assisted opening (NOT a switchblade), made in the USA and carries Kershaw's lifetime warranty. More info can be found here. Pics of mine (modified with a black Shallot handle) can be found here.

This knife meets all of your requirements, plus some! :thumbup:
 
I deal with these kinds of questions every day and I'll share a few thoughts for what they're worth. Personally, I think assisted opening technology is silly. It accomplishes nothing that any single handed opening knife doesn't accomplish and it does it with unnecessary complexity. Complexity sometimes reduces reliability. So, personally, I don't own a single assisted opening knife. They are incredibly popular, however, so apparently I'm in a minority.

You need to decide what is most important in the knife purchase. What matters most to you - utility? appearance? features? mechanical marvels? Answering this question will steer you in the right direction. Spyderco Enduras and Delicas aren't designed for beauty. They are designed as effective cutting tools and they do their job well. The have high performance blade steels, good ergonomics, light weight and durable construction. They are great knives. You could say some of these things about the SOG Flash except the blade steel is a bit lower in overall performance and they have that unnecessary complexity. But these are personal preference factors. Nobody but you can understand your personal preferences.
 
I think we all watch Nutnfancy! I love his videos! As far as a knife for you i would suggest a Delica 4 for EDC use and a Caly 3 for a little classy setup. I have both, use both, and love both.
 
Or you could be like the rest of us on this forum, and just buy knives and rotate your EDC! I'd hate to have to try to figure out the "perfect" knife.
Motto: Buy more knives :D
 
My opinion is that you should also consider the Benchmade Griptilian or Mini-Grip... fast blade deployment, good blade steel, proven Axis lock technology, good ergonomics and well within your price range.

Spyderco makes good knives. I don't care for the waved blades but I'd recommend the Delica, Endura, Rookie, Paramilitary or Cenofante 3.

Good luck in your search.
 
buttalike said:
Again, I have a question about the wave feature on the endura/delica. I really like the wave feature, but I also like the look of the full blade. Does the popular "ghetto hook"(ziptie) work well?
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I put a ziptie on one of my enduras and it didn't work. Unless I loosened the tension on the blade which produced blade play.

Knife outlet, I agree with you (we can both be in the minority). I used to buy lots of kershaws that were assisted, and thought they were the ultimate one hand openers. Honestly, I can open my Spydies and BMs just as easy. maybe not as quick, but I've come to the conclusion that assisteds are just for a "wow" factor. Plus, with regular openers, you don't have to worry about torsion bar breakage.
 
Knife Outlet said:
It accomplishes nothing that any single handed opening knife doesn't accomplish and it does it with unnecessary complexity. They are incredibly popular, however, so apparently I'm in a minority.
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Complex? In what ways? Have you ever opened one up and seen how very
simple in design they really are?

Yes they are very popular, and for a very good reason. They are simple in
design and very reliable, not complex in the least....unless you're really that
mechanically challenged.
 
Face it: an assisted knife is more complex than a folder. You're not gonna try to refute that, are you? The one assisted I had was a Buck Tempest, of which I owned two. First of all, I just didn't like them. Second of all, they both broke within a few months. Maybe I'll try a kershaw leek in the future though, but I have heard of them breaking too.
 
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