Sog flash II or Spyderco?

Tblock1 said:
Face it: an assisted knife is more complex than a folder. You're not gonna try to refute that, are you? The one assisted I had was a Buck Tempest, of which I owned two. First of all, I just didn't like them. Second of all, they both broke within a few months. Maybe I'll try a kershaw leek in the future though, but I have heard of them breaking too.
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You are right. There's a torsion bar in an AO. They can and do break.
I've been EDCing AO's for 10 years and I have had one torsion bar break.
When I sarcastically mentioned "complex" it was to the poster that, to me,
was implying they were very complex in design, which just isn't the case.
I've never owned a Buck Tempest so I can't attest to there quality and
reliability, but Kershaw tests there torsion bars to 10,000 openings.
That seems pretty reliable to me.
 
Tblock1 said:
Face it: an assisted knife is more complex than a folder. You're not gonna try to refute that, are you? The one assisted I had was a Buck Tempest, of which I owned two. First of all, I just didn't like them. Second of all, they both broke within a few months. Maybe I'll try a kershaw leek in the future though, but I have heard of them breaking too.
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I dunno man... folks act like an assisted opener is done if the torsion bar breaks. They will still work, you just open them like any other knife until you get a new bar.... My personal recommendation is that you get some extra bars from warranty before it breaks. Keep in mind that it isn't like these things break daily, weekly, monthly, yearly... I have had the same knife in my pocket for 3 years and never had a bar fail on me.

The key is to be proactive. I like to tear my EDC down every few months... I check e/t and tube all the moving parts and grease the torsion bar. Once a year I replace the torsion bar. Simple stuff most guys do anyway, with an AO you only have one more step that adds maybe 3 minutes to your routine. It really isn't a big deal and shouldn't scare anyone away from trying an AO.

Lots of folks want to say that it is a fad or overly complex, but the simple facts of the matter are that AOs are fun, most AOs are a really simple sturdy design, and there are some great ones on the market.
 
Tblock1, svrider3 is right. It is a very simple design that works.
I have and use a lot of Leeks (among other Speedsafe products)
and have yet to wear out a torsion bar.

Definitely give the Leek a shot in the future.

And on another note, as I've stated many times...
Speedsafe was designed to open the knife a different and easier one-handed way for some users. It is not a gimmick by any means.
Not everyone has all of their fingers or hands for that matter.
It was not made for "Oh, I can open mine faster than you." :rolleyes:

mike
 
2brothers said:
And on another note, as I've stated many times...
Speedsafe was designed to open the knife a different and easier one-handed way for some users. It is not a gimmick by any means.
Not everyone has all of their fingers or hands for that matter.
It was not made for "Oh, I can open mine faster than you." :rolleyes:

mike
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Very good point. I can remember a member here a year or so ago that was asking about the SpeedSafe feature. He wanted to know if a friend who had a bad "strong" hand could open one easily. I remember he bought a Kershaw Mini Mojo and gave it to him. The man loved it and could easily operate it. The member that bought it was so impressed, he bought several models for himself and his wife.

Gimmick? No. Fad? No. Complicated? No...just as much as you care to make it! :thumbup:
 
Start with the best knife you named, the CalyIII. If the CalyIII doesn't suit your needs it will be as easy or easier to sell than the other choices. Good luck.
 
Out of your list Caly3. I carry this knife for two years, it is the best. :thumbup:
 
buttalike said:
For those who carry the endura4, do you sometimes feel like you don't need that much knife in your pocket? I am having seconds thoughts as to whether I will or not. I am still considering the endura4, delica4, caly3, pacific salt, para-military(don't like the perm. clip though), Tenacious(don't like the steel though). You can see I'm pretty much set on getting a spyderco:) I can't wait to see what all the hype is about.
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:D I EDC a para-military everday, the lock on it is strong and when you go to close your finger is out of the way of a falling blade, also if you don't like the clip you can get STR to put a low-riding pocket clip on it.

also if you hurry you might be able to snag a CPM-D2 foliage green para before they all gone.

good luck, you can't go wrong with spyderco/benchmade/kershaw/chris reeve/ or buck. (just try to stay away from made in china ;))
 
Check out knifeworks.com. They have good prices and the knife will always get to you. My prefered dealer now.

On my Buck Tempest, the problem was the safety became so loose that it opened in my pocket all the time. The main problem was that the spring became so weak it wouldn't open after a month or so of firing. What I ended up doing was converting both knives to manual by taking them apart and moving the springs off the track. Then I tightened the pivots on both knives. Now they make sturdy folders with tight lock up and no bladeplay. Problem solved. But anyway I am looking forward to trying a Kershaw leek sometime soon.
 
well, I looked around on ebay and bid on a few knives...So far I'm highest bidder on a delica4 foliage green w/g10 handle, an endura4 w/ the emerson wave, and a delica4 w/ emerson wave. However, I doubt I will remain the highest bidder for long. You guys have a good knife buying experience on ebay?
 
Off subject, but man when the Kershaw mafia show up they really know how to side track a thread don't they. I hope Knife Outlet found a safe place to lay low for a while. I wouldnt want him to get "assisted" into an accident.
 
zrfunited said:
Off subject, but man when the Kershaw mafia show up they really know how to side track a thread don't they.
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word kershaw mafia:barf:

listen, I got a new SOG FLASH II for like $50.
I beat the living crap out of the thing, I carried it for over a year, there is a little blade play now but it won't come unlocked due to the locking mechanism, it's almost like a compression lock?. The edge held up well and was easy to sharpen. I dunno what problems other people had but it served me well for what it was. Shoot for one of the tridents if you like the SOGS, but like others said A/O is more like a novelty, it takes about the same time to unlock and then open an A/O knife as it does open a regular folder with a thumbstud or a opening hole.

Waves are super fast openers, but certain ones will rip up your pockets or whatever you wave off of. It depends on the design of the opening device. IWaves are like carrying a "folding-fixed-blade", as soon as it's out it's open.
 
Ok, so now I've been looking at some BM's and found the mini Nitrous Stryker to be in the realm of what Im looking for. If you were choosing between the delica4/paramilitary w/ g-10 handles or the BM Nitrous Stryker, which one would you choose? Thanks
 
Killyourself, how did you find the SOG's ergos? How do you hold the knife?

buttalike said:
Ok, so now I've been looking at some BM's and found the mini Nitrous Stryker to be in the realm of what Im looking for. If you were choosing between the delica4/paramilitary w/ g-10 handles or the BM Nitrous Stryker, which one would you choose? Thanks
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Para. Excellent geometry, my favorite blade shape, compression lock, wonderful ergonomics that get your hand closer to the edge for better control.

Delica has too thick of a grind and a weird handle that doesn't fit me correctly. Other than that it's a wonderful knife.

Haven't used the Stryker. I did handle a mini stryker at a store recently and I liked it enough that I want one now. It's rare a Benchmade makes me feel that way.
 
I handled the Nitrous strykers. They were nice, but the assisted opening technology on it seemed to make opening and closing it really stiff. Definitely good steel thought. I'm mostly an axis lock only BM kind of guy. I'd go with the para military over the stryker, but it'd take a lot of consideration between the delica and the stryker. They're both really really good.

The delica's "too thick" grind is personal preference. Personally, I love it, and the grip fits me well. (also personal preference)

+1 on the kershaw mafia thing...
 
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