Some food for thought Spyderco

uofaengr said:
What makes a back lock boring....
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I was wondering the same thing. I do like certain locks better, but a lock is a lock - as long as it keeps the blade from closing on my fingers, I'm good to go.

I don't NEED a mini PM2 - but I would probably buy one if it existed. I like the blade shape and the compression lock.
 
"a lock is a lock"
So you'll be first in line to buy the new Spyderco featuring the Opinel twist lock?
I had considered explaining my reference "boring back/mid lock but that post was already turning into a novel and I thought it would be self explanatory what I meant. For starters when I see a back lock knife it always reminds me of a Buck 110. Certainly a great knife with a proven lock but it just seems old and outdated at this point. The other part of "boring" is the number of mid locks in Spydercos lineup, especially looking at their Japanese offerings. Variety in the spice of life ya know?!
I'll through my reasons for not having a preference for mid locks in here in hopes to not being accused of only using my Spydercos for tactical knife flicking;
1) Same reason I dislike liner and frame locks: to release the lock one handed your fingers have to be in the path of the blade. I think most here probably put rediculously sharp edges on their knives as I do and know even light contact with the blade when closing can do serious harm.
2) Many mid/back locks end up with "lock rock" in time and there is no good way to remove it. Newer lock designs have engagement surfaces that are tapered so as they wear the lock moves up the taper and stays tight.
3) The cutout in the blade tang that the lockbar snaps into can get filled with lint, dirt, & debris to the point the lockbar will not engage fully. Most other locks do not have such a pocket to trap debris and push it out of the way instead of packing it like a mid lock.
4) Last and most important, the tactical flick! Seriously though I do flick my knives open when I use them and I like a lock that I can disengage the lock and gravity allows the blade to fall shut. No I dont do it this way to be tacticool but rather because its faster, more convenient, and safer (not putting fingers in the blades path).

So when are we getting the folding whale rescue with deep carry wire clip, red g10, and super blue steel?!?!?
 
Yeah, I'd buy a twist lock Spyderco too.

And I don't think I will ever understand how a lock can be described as "boring".
 
Lee48 said:
Yeah, I'd buy a twist lock Spyderco too.

And I don't think I will ever understand how a lock can be described as "boring".
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I disagree. While I don't find the midlock the least bit boring, and Spyderco is one of the few companies offering midlocks, I would say that the Walker style liner lock and the and Reeve Integral lock have become so ubiquitous as to be boring.
 
Ken44 said:
They can't keep up with demand on the Para 2 as is.
Another version would slow them down even more, and I don't think a smaller version would sell very well anyway.
I don't see it happening. Just my opinion though.
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Me too.;)
 
Yo Mama said:
Wow, I disagree with you, I'd like a bigger Southard and PM2. :)
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One off-shoot of this suggestion, for a 3" blade, is that the folder becomes legal in MANY jurisdictions where it now isn't in "stock" form.
That helps out a bunch of folks who live in those states.
For relatives' gifts, I end up buying a lot of Sage, Caly, and Native models (instead of PM2's) to keep my gifting legal in certain states.
I like his idea, but then, I usually agree with Mantzao.
:)
 
Sal Glesser said:
Peter and I have been toying around with a "chopped" para2 design, but as mentioned, it will be a while before we can add too many new models in the US plant. construction is currently under way, but all good things take time. Persistence is king and patience helps.



Price is directly related to our cost. Materials and country of origin determine cost and thus price. What is it you are seeking?

sal
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^ Apparently something is happening and with Spyderco working on increasing production capacity this could defiantly become a reality in the future.
 
I'm fairly critical of most production moderns. In that I don't spend money very often buying other brands and will tend to trade for them. Spydercos I will outright buy a model if I am interested in it and to be honest I find it very hard to be critical of them overall.

They have so many of people's complaints a the knife community's nits covered. I.e. US made knives, Taichung, China and Seki all covered in all prices ranges. Multiple blade shapes, handle materials, locking mechanisms. I think I would be ok with not having a mini PM2. That's what the Caly, Delica and UKPK are for. I think Spyderco should keep on doing what they have always been doing as they are really on top of their game as is Kershaw with their business models. I work with CEO's or megacap Companies for a living in driving their strategic communications so I think I am qualified to say this. :)
 
I'm ok with the PM2 as it is, but will surely buy a smaller version of it if it comes out. The smaller Southard, however, is a great idea! I found the regular Southard too big for daily carry and ended up selling it, but love the concept and would get a few if they are made smaller and thinner.
 
Sal Glesser said:
Peter and I have been toying around with a "chopped" para2 design, but as mentioned, it will be a while before we can add too many new models in the US plant. construction is currently under way, but all good things take time. Persistence is king and patience helps.



Price is directly related to our cost. Materials and country of origin determine cost and thus price. What is it you are seeking?

sal
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I have been waiting, and waiting, and waiting for current models to be produced with colored G-10 or frn, and in their normal production steel.
 
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If you looked in a Dictionary of Slang you chaps might not be so keen to "Get your hands on a Chubby", fnar, fnar...
 
Everyone wants a smaller this or bigger that (knives ;)). This thread is about smaller versions of medium to large knife models. Let it be such.
 
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