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Somebody talk me into buying the ZT 0566 please...
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When I consider the ZT-Hinderer collaboration, I think of a high-end production knife company that should be dedicated to creating close variants of original Hinderer XMs. To the best of my knowledge, there are no spring-assisted, steel-framed Hinderer XMs. And that's where I, for one, draw the line.
So where am I with the 0562/0562CF? I absolutely love them. IMO, they're the Hinderer collaborations ZT should have built from the very start. The 0562CF should have won this year's Overall Knife of the Year award if not of the Decade. They ought to be considered grail knives for folks who want a 3.5" XM-18 but can't afford an original. (Keep in mind that the MSRP for the 0562CF is only $85.00 less than the MSRP for an original Hinderer XM-18! Now factor in the delta between the street prices of those knives and you'll realize just how much of a bargain you're getting in a knife that, with a bearing pivot and M390 steel, could arguably be said to be an upgrade of the original.) My only regret is that they're too darned big and heavy for me to carry or I'd be on a CF like white on rice.
The wait continues . . .
So where am I with the 0562/0562CF? I absolutely love them. IMO, they're the Hinderer collaborations ZT should have built from the very start. The 0562CF should have won this year's Overall Knife of the Year award if not of the Decade. They ought to be considered grail knives for folks who want a 3.5" XM-18 but can't afford an original. (Keep in mind that the MSRP for the 0562CF is only $85.00 less than the MSRP for an original Hinderer XM-18! Now factor in the delta between the street prices of those knives and you'll realize just how much of a bargain you're getting in a knife that, with a bearing pivot and M390 steel, could arguably be said to be an upgrade of the original.) My only regret is that they're too darned big and heavy for me to carry or I'd be on a CF like white on rice.
The wait continues . . .
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We agree again! All except the too heavy part. I am fine with the weight. A couple years ago I dropped 40lbs so now days a couple ounces of knife really doesn't bug me. Now, the 566 was too heavy for what I was getting. It might be nice for some people who require less blade and a more inexpensive price point but for me I stuck with the 550, 560, and am waiting on 0562cf.
I couldn't care any less than I already do about titanium vs steel on the lock bar side. The 0562 doesn't have the sexy texturing of the 0560, so that side doesn't gain (or lose) style or function points over the 0566 with me. Blade steel is the same... G-10 texturing will perform similarly in real world use.
The biggest potential difference to me is the grind. That's a narrow performance difference, considering how well the 0566 is working for me.
Now... If they gave the 0562 the slab texture of the 0560...
You could not physically stop me from getting one. That grind, with that texture... WOW. That would have been like Kourikova playing like Serena Williams. The total package.
The biggest potential difference to me is the grind. That's a narrow performance difference, considering how well the 0566 is working for me.
Now... If they gave the 0562 the slab texture of the 0560...
You could not physically stop me from getting one. That grind, with that texture... WOW. That would have been like Kourikova playing like Serena Williams. The total package.
In retrospect "the soul" is a poor choice of words. Too dramatic, let's tone that down to mojo or x-factor
You see when you hold the 0350 or 0566 they're fine knives, no doubt. You'll never hear me say either blades are poor in function and quality but...and this is a big ol' BUT:
When you hold a 0301 or 0560 and feel the way those handles just melt into your hand and you see and feel that big slab of beautifully 3D machined titanium holding that stout blade.... I mean....
Titanium is such a world of difference in look and feel over that unattractive, harsh and mojo-less stainless steel on the 0566.
You say you initially set out to get that 0560. That right there tells me you're a knife lover. No average Joe Sheep sets out to spend that much money on a folder. You probably googled and youtubed the hell out of that 0560 before you put that wallet in your back pocket and grabbed your coat, am I right? So the price wasn't an issue for you since you were set on getting that particular knife from the get go. You knew the specs on the blade, the dimensions, the msrp, everything and you grabbed your coat and went out that door.
Now here's where your story starts to baffle me. You're there, you're in that store. You tell the guy what your there for and he takes his keys, opens a cabinet and there she is, he hands you the 0560. Now you're no longer googling or youtubing my friend, you're holding that beautiful big slice of American beef in the palm of your hand, she's rubbing her gorgeous titanium ass against your fingers and you look down at this thang and work that flipper, out pops 3.75 inches of sexy steel. Are you feeling it yet?
And now you're going to sit there, look me straight in the eye and tell me you handed that beauty back to the guy and got the watered down, obnoxious stainless steel thing instead, right after you felt that 0560?
No way my friend, that's like feeling up Megan Fox in a bar and then leaving with her friend Rosanne Barr. No man could do it..
I guess I'm one of the few who sees absolutely no use for titanium on knives other than making the price double. Don't get me wrong, I own several, but I just don't see any substantial benefits. Am I missing something about titanium? I mean when you have to add a steel insert on the lock bar that originally a few years ago would have been made from stainless steel in the first place, what's the point? I know I'm gonna get flamed, and I don't mean to sidetrack the thread, but can someone explain to me benefits of titanium versus stainless steel?
No, but I can show you, picture it like this:
This is titanium
This is stainless steel
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No, but I can show you, picture it like this:
This is titanium
This is stainless steel
LOL. Perfect.
And for those who require a slightly more scientific explanation, there's this:http://www.differencebetween.net/object/difference-between-steel-and-titanium/
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In retrospect "the soul" is a poor choice of words. Too dramatic, let's tone that down to mojo or x-factor
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I live in the PNW, wear 5.11 Stryke pants (the less tactical looking ones) to work every day, drive a Subaru Outback as a single dad, keep a stash of protein bars in my work locker, and spend more time with news and reviews than I do with TV. It's in my nature to prioritize practicality over sexy. Sure, I appreciate the incredibly sexy look and feel of the 0560, but you know what REALLY gets me? When I held the 0566, I knew THAT was the perfect knife for work. I knew it was the one I'd carry to work every day, and that was my priority.
When I get the 0560, that will be my day off blade.
That'll be the one I wear when I WANT people to notice my knife. I get the mojo thing. Mojo just comes after working needs on my scale.
No, but I can show you, picture it like this:
This is titanium
This is stainless steel
Damn. Now if only she was carrying a ZT on that belt..
I live in the PNW, wear 5.11 Stryke pants (the less tactical looking ones) to work every day, drive a Subaru Outback as a single dad, keep a stash of protein bars in my work locker, and spend more time with news and reviews than I do with TV. It's in my nature to prioritize practicality over sexy. Sure, I appreciate the incredibly sexy look and feel of the 0560, but you know what REALLY gets me? When I held the 0566, I knew THAT was the perfect knife for work. I knew it was the one I'd carry to work every day, and that was my priority.
When I get the 0560, that will be my day off blade.
I get the mojo thing. Mojo just comes after working needs on my scale.
Point taken, I don't know the story behind your single dad situation but those are rarely the result of anything positive. I have a 3 year old and 1,5 year old myself and when I look at the amount of time, energy and resources going into to those two I can only imagine how hard it is to be a single parent. Respect friend, and may that 566 serve you well.
Btw if you're ever in the market for a back up or follow up to that blade you should concider a Spyderco Manix 2. Awesome blade and hard to beat as a work knife. :thumbup:
My other favorite work blade is a Manix 2 G-10. You have great taste, sir!
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Lets see.
1/4in differance in blade
More cash.
Assisted or most prefered de-assisted Your choice
562 is Blade Length: 3.5 in. (8.9 cm)
Blade Length: 3.50"
Closed Length: 4.8 in. (12.2 cm)
$ 250.00 or $200.00
566 is
Blade Length:3.25"
Closed Length: 4.45 in. (11.3 cm)
$ 180.00 or $144.00
The size is what I like.
Near PM2 just alittle more heft.
If you want a Near perfect slicer.
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I love this conversation, and the explanations are hilarious. That being said, don't write off the 566 completely.
I'd offer up that maybe the 566 isn't Roseanne Barr, but rather the cute home-town girl you crushed on in high school. No, not as sexy as a Hollywood Starlet, but she's dependable, you know her family well, and you'll be together to the end. She isn't the cover girl of the month that'll come and go. She'll stay with you, by your side.
Megan Fox is the steel of the month. Something sexier will come out, and you'll be looking to trade in and upgrade, or worse, resent her because she no longer is the one everyone is talking about.
But your hometown girl? You grow more in love. Sure, she's older and a bit wrinkled. She even once slapped you because you were looking at others, but she's still by your side. You're both still in love and not in this passing fad like a dog in heat. No, it's deeper than that. That's the 566.
I'd offer up that maybe the 566 isn't Roseanne Barr, but rather the cute home-town girl you crushed on in high school. No, not as sexy as a Hollywood Starlet, but she's dependable, you know her family well, and you'll be together to the end. She isn't the cover girl of the month that'll come and go. She'll stay with you, by your side.
Megan Fox is the steel of the month. Something sexier will come out, and you'll be looking to trade in and upgrade, or worse, resent her because she no longer is the one everyone is talking about.
But your hometown girl? You grow more in love. Sure, she's older and a bit wrinkled. She even once slapped you because you were looking at others, but she's still by your side. You're both still in love and not in this passing fad like a dog in heat. No, it's deeper than that. That's the 566.