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Somebody talk me into buying the ZT 0566 please...
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You're forgetting material and bearing/bushing differences. Make no mistake about it, the 562 is a nicer and higher end knife.
Lets see.
1/4in differance in blade
More cash.
Assisted or most prefered de-assisted Your choice
562 is Blade Length: 3.5 in. (8.9 cm)
Blade Length: 3.50"
Closed Length: 4.8 in. (12.2 cm)
$ 250.00 or $200.00
566 is
Blade Length:3.25"
Closed Length: 4.45 in. (11.3 cm)
$ 180.00 or $144.00
The size is what I like.
Near PM2 just alittle more heft.
If you want a Near perfect slicer.
Paramilitary2
Couldnt resist
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. . . as well as a worthy contender to the knife that inspired it.
Once again, for folks who are looking for a reasonably close variant of the 3.5" XM-18, the 0566 is NOT the answer. It's a nice knife, and those who purchase it won't be disappointed. But it's no closer to emulating an XM-18 than a Cryo II is.
Here's what I'd suggest people do who won't be satisfied with anything less than an XM-18 in a ZT wrapper but have the itch to buy a Hinderer-designed knife before the 0562 is released. Rather than purchase an 0566, buy a Cryo II instead. Then save up your money and get an 0562 or 0562CF when they become available. You'll be glad you did.
For your convenience, I've included the specs for the Cryo II and the 0566 below. If they appear to be remarkably similar, it's because they are:
Kershaw Cryo II:
• Made in China
• SpeedSafe® assisted opening system
• Frame lock, lockbar stabilizer
• Flipper and thumbstud
• Quad-carry (tip-up/tip-down; left/right) pocketclip; deep-carry
• Steel: 8Cr13MoV, titanium carbo-nitride coating
• Handle: 410 stainless steel, titanium carbo-nitride coating
• Blade length: 3.25 in. (8.3 cm)
• Closed length: 4.4 in. (11.1 cm)
• Overall length: 7.75 in. (19.7 cm)
• Weight: 5.5 oz. (155.9 g)
ZT 0566:
• Made in the USA
• SpeedSafe® assisted opening system
• Frame lock, lockbar stabilizer
• Flipper and thumbstud
• Quad-carry (tip-up/tip-down; left/right) pocketclip; deep-carry
• Steel: ELMAX®, stonewashed finish
• Handle: Textured G-10 front, stainless steel back
• Blade Length: 3.25 in. (8.25 cm)
• Closed Length: 4.45 in. (11.3 cm)
• Overall Length: 7.70 in. (19.6 cm)
• Weight: 5.3 oz. (150.3 g)
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Come on man, now you're just using fancy talk to cover up the fact that your hometown girl is short and overweight
Nice!
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The 566 is one of my favorites, because IMHO it's where spending any more money gives you more show, but not necessarily more go. Functionality maximized. PM2 after its gone to the gym. It gives up very little in the areas that count to it's big brother, and is significantly cheaper. It's a winner.
Come on man, now you're just using fancy talk to cover up the fact that your hometown girl is short and overweight
Hahaha. My wife just said, "did he call me fat?"
Holy **** you showed that to your wife, thanks a lot buddy, she's probably tracking my IP adress as we speak. Quick are you missing any knives from your collection? Please tell me she didn't take the 566. If I'm getting stabbed there had better be some titanium on that thing.
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I love my ZT 0566.
Just read this:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1109493-Received-today-ZT-0566?highlight=0566+ruudr
Just read this:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1109493-Received-today-ZT-0566?highlight=0566+ruudr
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That's what makes KAI/ZT such a great outfit! Options to fit anyone's budget and still delivering a quality tool. Spyderco,same thing. I purchased a Cryo just to see if it was a good budget priced option and it is.I've been temped to purchase the ZT0566 but have held off only because my ZT0561 has been such a great knife,I figured I'll just stick with that one and wait awhile until ZT comes out with something down the road like the lighter XM-18 or perhaps even something better. The crew at ZT never rest and who knows what they'll come up with in the future.Until then my ZT0561 will keep me happy.
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Exactly, skyhorse. For folks who like the XM-18 design but aren't particularly interested in getting close to XM quality, the 0566 is a great knife (as is the Cryo II, for that matter). For those who want both the design AND the quality, the 0562 and 0562CF are right around the corner.That's what makes KAI/ZT such a great outfit! Options to fit anyone's budget and still delivering a quality tool. Spyderco,same thing. I purchased a Cryo just to see if it was a good budget priced option and it is.I've been temped to purchase the ZT0566 but have held off only because my ZT0561 has been such a great knife,I figured I'll just stick with that one and wait awhile until ZT comes out with something down the road like the lighter XM-18 or perhaps even something better. The crew at ZT never rest and who knows what they'll come up with in the future.Until then my ZT0561 will keep me happy.
As far as budget is concerned, I'd suggest that most folks who are willing to spend ~$100 for a knife would be willing to spend ~$170 for one if they felt the difference was warranted. The delta in MSRP between an 0566 and an 0562 is $70.00. Assuming that entire amount were to pass through to the consumer when the 0562 is released, the question is whether a Titanium frame and a bearing pivot are worth $70.00 more than a stainless steel frame and a spring-assisted pivot. That's a question each person needs to answer for themselves, of course. But if we ran a poll, I suspect the results would weigh heavily in favor of a "yes" answer.
One way or the other, it's nice to have choices. And lest I overlook the obvious solution for those who can't make up their minds:
GET BOTH!!!
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To the OP, the 0566 is a great knife. Considering what you get for the price, I'd call it a homerun. In fact, the 0566 was my first ZT knife and quickly turned me on to the rest of their lineup.
The Elmax blade is ground from thinner stock and retains that tough-as-nails Hinderer profile. There's no doubt it makes a good work knife. It's slim and carries extremely well in the pocket, despite being a little on the heavier side. But in all honesty, that's all part of the ZT pedigree. Not to mention, the ergos are great. The handle gives you just enough real estate; no more, no less.
I de-assisted mine right when I got it, and it flipped like a champ. It's all in the technique, man. Build that pressure up on the flipper and just watch that blade fly out. ZT makes a quality product and they stand behind it. I don't think you could go wrong with an 0566. Now for a few pics!
The Elmax blade is ground from thinner stock and retains that tough-as-nails Hinderer profile. There's no doubt it makes a good work knife. It's slim and carries extremely well in the pocket, despite being a little on the heavier side. But in all honesty, that's all part of the ZT pedigree. Not to mention, the ergos are great. The handle gives you just enough real estate; no more, no less.
I de-assisted mine right when I got it, and it flipped like a champ. It's all in the technique, man. Build that pressure up on the flipper and just watch that blade fly out. ZT makes a quality product and they stand behind it. I don't think you could go wrong with an 0566. Now for a few pics!
This thread contains so much win :thumbup:
As for the 0566, mine will be here tomorrow. I can wait to get it in my hands. I agree with most of you that the 0566 isnt ZT's top of the line, but it really doesnt matter. You have to keep it in perspective. Were not talking about a gas station folder here. Its still a ZT after all.
I like Ti as well, my sage 2 is one of my favorite knives. But honestly, Im actually glad the lock is SS on the 0566. It gives more resistance to wear and keeps the price reasonable. Sure it adds weight and lacks the scarlett-johansson-epicness of Titanium, but I think in the end, this knife is just as usable as something more expensive with Ti on it. This will be my first ZT and I wanted something that I wasnt going to regret buying because of price. Im not too afraid to "commit" to the brand, what Im afraid of is spending lots of money. This will do the trick nicely without breaking the bank.
In fact, Im hoping one of two things happens. I like it so much that I dont have to ever buy another ZT again, or I hate it so much that I REFUSE to ever buy another ZT again. Either outcome would really help me financially
UPDATE:
Just got it in! Love it. I flipped it once with the assist and realized my finger would hate me if I did that anymore, so I deassisted it and perfected my technique so that now I can flip it easily. It's gotten very smooth too. The only issue I have is that the lock bar arrived at already around 60 % which kinda ticks me off. Does anyone know how quickly wearing these knives are? I know steel should last longer but how long?
As for the 0566, mine will be here tomorrow. I can wait to get it in my hands. I agree with most of you that the 0566 isnt ZT's top of the line, but it really doesnt matter. You have to keep it in perspective. Were not talking about a gas station folder here. Its still a ZT after all.
I like Ti as well, my sage 2 is one of my favorite knives. But honestly, Im actually glad the lock is SS on the 0566. It gives more resistance to wear and keeps the price reasonable. Sure it adds weight and lacks the scarlett-johansson-epicness of Titanium, but I think in the end, this knife is just as usable as something more expensive with Ti on it. This will be my first ZT and I wanted something that I wasnt going to regret buying because of price. Im not too afraid to "commit" to the brand, what Im afraid of is spending lots of money. This will do the trick nicely without breaking the bank.
In fact, Im hoping one of two things happens. I like it so much that I dont have to ever buy another ZT again, or I hate it so much that I REFUSE to ever buy another ZT again. Either outcome would really help me financially
UPDATE:
Just got it in! Love it. I flipped it once with the assist and realized my finger would hate me if I did that anymore, so I deassisted it and perfected my technique so that now I can flip it easily. It's gotten very smooth too. The only issue I have is that the lock bar arrived at already around 60 % which kinda ticks me off. Does anyone know how quickly wearing these knives are? I know steel should last longer but how long?
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In response to the quote below, I have both and I find that the ZT's are cool looking and work well for a few tasks, but the manix 2 is a real serious daily worker. And frankly, when i pull my ZT out of my pocket I have to flip it out slowly around your typical non knife people, because the size of the blade and sound of that action freak them, out or at least get there attention, and not in a positive way. As for the main discussion, I don't own a 566 yet, but I do want the 562cf M390.
Is the steel versus the titanium on the handle that important? I use to think Titanium was a higher value for the money than I do now. After all, it's softer, steel is stronger, so is it worth that extra money for an ounce or two of lost weight. I started looking at what an ounce is. I also usually wear the 5.11 stryke pants or some other ripstop type tactical knife pocket having pants, but sometimes I'm doing construction type stuff and I'm wearing double knee carhartts. The weight difference between those two pants is wayyyyyyyyy more than a couple ounces. Then there's my footwear, sometimes I'm driving all day and I wear simple sneakers, other days I'm working in the field and I wear heavy redwing boots, more weight dif. Maybe you carry two knives, at which point is that ti really that important. It's cool to have ti because they can be anodized and it feels neat, but I wont be basing my purchase decisions on it, hell, I'm trying to buy a Hogue aluminum handle right now, that's low weight and price affordability for ya.
Is the steel versus the titanium on the handle that important? I use to think Titanium was a higher value for the money than I do now. After all, it's softer, steel is stronger, so is it worth that extra money for an ounce or two of lost weight. I started looking at what an ounce is. I also usually wear the 5.11 stryke pants or some other ripstop type tactical knife pocket having pants, but sometimes I'm doing construction type stuff and I'm wearing double knee carhartts. The weight difference between those two pants is wayyyyyyyyy more than a couple ounces. Then there's my footwear, sometimes I'm driving all day and I wear simple sneakers, other days I'm working in the field and I wear heavy redwing boots, more weight dif. Maybe you carry two knives, at which point is that ti really that important. It's cool to have ti because they can be anodized and it feels neat, but I wont be basing my purchase decisions on it, hell, I'm trying to buy a Hogue aluminum handle right now, that's low weight and price affordability for ya.
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