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Artfully Martial said:
...For instance, I've never ran at a telephone pole and divided into two separate, complete mes and reconnected at the other end (ala Penrose)...
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Oh! You *really* ought to try it sometime...it's quite refreshing. :cool: :D
 
given that one of the nearest stars is 4.3 light years away and is a G2V star, like ours, Rigel Kentaurus is both capable of having an Earth-like planet and, at sub-luminal velocities of say .999999999c only 2 days away for the saucer crew.
At .99999999999c its only 5 hours away for the crew.

If relativity holds (and I dont think it will if Gravity is truly the speed limit and not light) then the trip there takes 4.4 years and they spend what, a few months visiting and come back in 4.4 years. That's 9 years, not exactly an unimaginable amount of time.

If gravity IS the true speed limit, then relativity does not hold and they could be there and back in actual on-board time. (anyhwere from a day to a week)

so you see, even if you believe Einstein was right, there is still a way to go to another star system and back in only a few years of observer time.
 
I was just hunting UFOs, says Pentagon's UK hacker

Michael Holden said:
LONDON (Reuters) - To the United States, he is a seriously dangerous man who put the nation's security at risk by committing "the biggest military computer hack of all time."

But Briton Gary McKinnon says he is just an ordinary computer nerd who wanted to find out whether aliens and UFOs exist.

During his two-year quest, McKinnon broke into computers at the
Pentagon,
NASA and the Johnson Space Center as well as systems used by the U.S. army, navy and air force.

U.S. officials say he caused $700,000 worth of damage and even crippled vital defense systems shortly after the September 11 attacks.

The unemployed computer programmer is now battling extradition to the United States, where, if found guilty, he faces up to 70 years in jail and fines of up to $1.75 million. His lawyer fears he could even be sent to Guantanamo Bay.

It's all a far cry from how he first got into hacking: watching a film about a teenage boy who breaks into a military central computer and almost starts World War Three.

"I had seen the film 'War Games' and I do remember clearly thinking at the time, that's amazing -- a great big military computer system and a young, spotty teenager," the softly spoken 39-year-old told Reuters in an interview.

"HACKER'S HANDBOOK"

A decade later, McKinnon, armed with information gleaned from the book, "The Hacker's Handbook," began his snooping.

During 2000-1 from his home in Hornsey, north London, and using a computer with just a limited 56K dial-up modem, he turned his sights on the American government and military.

"My main thing was wanting to find out about UFOs and suppressed technology," he said insisting his intention was not to cause damage. "I wanted to ... find out stuff the government wouldn't tell you about."

He said it was easy, despite being only a rank amateur. Using the hacking name "Solo," he discovered that many U.S. top-security systems were using an insecure Microsoft Windows program and had no password protection at all.

"So I got commercially available off-the-shelf software and used them to scan large military networks ... anything I thought might have possible links to UFO information," he said.

ALIENS?

He said he came across a group called the "Disclosure Project," which had expert testimonies from senior figures who said technology obtained from extra-terrestrials did exist.

One NASA scientist had reported that the Johnson Space Center had a facility where UFOs were airbrushed out of high-resolution satellite images. So, he hacked in.

"I saw what I'm convinced was some kind of satellite or spacecraft but it was manufactured by no means I have ever seen before -- there were no rivets, no seams, it was like one flawless piece of material. And that was above the Earth."

However, his probing came to an end in March 2002, when British police arrested him.

"I was completely obsessed. I was completely addicted. It was like a huge game but I was getting very paranoid," he said.

McKinnon's own story might sound like the plot of a movie, but the charges he faces are deadly serious. He argues he is being made a scapegoat by U.S. authorities to deter other would-be hackers rather than address their own security flaws.

"I'm already being treated as a terrorist," he said. "I appear in an official American army pamphlet ... in a guide to combating terrorism in the 21st century."

The next stage of his legal battle takes place on May 10. But he hints that whatever happens, he has a lot more to tell.

"I can't talk about a lot of stuff that I found. It's just not the right time," he said with a smile.
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I've always enjoyed the History Channel's "UFO Files" program, and for that matter, their's and National Geographic Channel's Bigfoot and seamonster/serpent shows. I'd say (keeping my name in mind, lol) there's definatly something to it all.

Recently, one of those channels talked about USOs: Unidentified Submerged Objects. Very interesting, some folks mentioning possible USO bases, one in or near Puerto Rico, and another near a small island off of California. Can't remember any details, so this all sounds like cheap, third-hand conspiracy stuff, but they did mention alot of Cigar-shaped UFO/USOs with the detachable Disk-type ships. All said to have phenominal speed under water, and potentially use water as a fuel or oxygen source. Also info about the US and other navies pursuing USOs for awhile (sometimes for days) before the object just disappears.

A different program showed amazing video footage from Mexico. Huge squadrons of UFOs, some during a town celibration, so lots of eye-witnesses. Pretty cool.

And I liked what one researcher said (paraphrase): "They've been coming here for a long time, and with their level of technology, if they had meant to harm us, they'd have done it by now."

Not to mention the Biblical UFO theories, ancient Hindu tales and artwork, and something on Wikipedia about divine aliens enlightening the human race in 2012... lol, deep end indeed.

Like the wise say, love your family and friends, eat your food, go to the crapper, and try not to get into any trouble. Or maybe just I say that. :D

Take care.
 
And I liked what one researcher said (paraphrase): "They've been coming here for a long time, and with their level of technology, if they had meant to harm us, they'd have done it by now." >>>> Madmanamus


If they were truly kind, though, they'd have left behind better stereo and audiophile components for us to emulate.





munk
 
November 1978 - An entire sixth grade class and their science teacher witnessed a large, glowing, cigar-shaped craft hovering at 10,000 feet near an airport. It did not move, made no noise and left no vapor trail.
 
Okay, Munk, I'll bite: you mentioned that plot conceit once, and haven't said anything about it again. If they were here because they were running, what were/are they running from?

Klingons?
 
Huh? I forgot all about that, brokenhallelujah.

I don't know what they'd be running from. How about "It" about to start all over again; goodbye all current manesfestations of matter?

I now have two power recievers in my house; both broken. Can't these aliens throw down a power reciever for me? That's not a lot to ask for.




munk
 
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