Something is wrong with my school

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I'm a sophomore, and so is my best friend Dave. Dave's the type of kid that goes against the grain socially (wears different clothes, very opinionated, doesn't take on a macho attituted), but has MANY friends and all of the teachers like him, not at all mean and he's very studious and intelligent. So he wore a kilt to school last week, and a bunch of freshmen came up to him and called him "fag" etc. This got us both angry not because they called him a fag per se, but we're both for gay rights and have no tolerance for ignorance. Later that day Dave took the kids hacky-sack and threw it in the pond on front of the school. This didn't please them at all, and Dave felt bad about it the next day and gave the owner of it a $5 bill and shook his hand (though the kid didn't apologize for his remarks). It was all fine until yesterday. The kid's cousin (a senior) came up to Dave, pushed him into a locker, and started calling him a "fag", a "pussy" and was harrassing him. He then punched Dave in the head and said "You gonna be a man and fight?" to which Dave replied "I'm not going to fight you, I'm a pacifist" (which is true, and although I probably would have fought back, it's against his principles and I respect it, the kid didn't). He punched him harder, this time he fractured the bone of his eye socket. He wasn't going to tell anyone, but when the swelling and bleeding was too bad he had to go to the nurse, where the principal asked what happened. The kid got suspended for just 3 days, and now today his friends, including someone one probation known for fighting, were in his class planning how to kill him, and they planned to punch him once a day, then the probation kid told Dave "When I'm off probation, I'm going to stab you". They all got passes out to the bathroom, but he saw them through the door window just waiting there to beat him up when he left the room. He told two teachers, one asked me what happened, and the principal knows as well. His mom called the school and they said they would suspend the kid, she asked what would happen when he came back, and he couldn't give her an answer. Now, he has to go to a different school. Tomorrow I plan on going to the office and expressing my thoughts on the situation, and I don't think I'm going to be too generous in my evaluation of their actions. :mad:
 
I'm sorry to hear about your friend. While I've not seen/heard of anything like that happening at my school, I think it's perfectly possible. It's too bad that some people have to be such jerks. :(
 
Your friend should've shanked the guy with a pencil when no-one was looking:).

Seriously, your friend's parents should contact the police about this. A fractured eye socket isn't funny. He should look into assualt charges against that prick.
 
For some reason I am starting to think your friend could run into some money here, and that kid's parents are going to be short on funds...
 
Needle this is serious stuff. Your his friend..you need to do the right thing. You need to get the police involved for your own friends saftey. Planning on punching or stabbing or killing your friend is a crime. Its called assault.
When I was a kid in high school I also was a kid very much like your friend..but in my day we were punk rockers..anyway..several kids..all bigger than me made my senior year a living hell. I wont bore you with the details but it involved beatings and mental torture. Calling someone a "fag" and beating on them is a hate crime. It goes beyond bullying. If the school has a hands off attitude..dude call the cops yourself. You need to do the right thing and stand in the gap for your friend.

on a personal note. Needle my son is one year younger than yourself, You are a great kid. I hope your parents are proud of you...

Ren
 
Gotta put in my 2 cents. This guy (and any who were with him) should really be charged with assault. This is the kind of bullying that eventually brings on much greater trouble. Name calling--throwing hackysacks--ok, thats just juvenile bs-- develop thicker skins (which sounds like what your friend and yourself were trying to do. This physical stuff, though. Here apparently the end result was a fracture, which could lead to permanent damage. Now I'm not normally the sort that immediatley starts shouting "lawsuit"--cause there's too much of that going around already. This was not a mere civil offense--it was criminal, and a penalty should result.

As far as the kilt goes--maybe he picked the wrong plaid :p ?
Sorry--just got back form Scotland.
 
oh--forgot. You are absolutely right. Something IS wrong with your school.
Good luck to you and your friend.
 
He's not going to school tomorrow (A great learning environment! :rolleyes: ), and I'm going to go to the office first period, and if they don't not only get the cops involved but expell the one who punched him and the one who threatened to kill him and is on parole, I'll get the cops involved myself (guess who's parole officer isn't going to be impressed?). One of the teacher's words of wisdom was "I hate to condone violence, but don't be his punching bag." We're outnumbered, outmuscled, and I'd rather not solve it that way, and I think that was a pretty stupid thing to say.

On another note, thanks for the kind words, Ren :)
 
I hate to say it, but it sounds like the thugs in your school smell the blood in the water. The minute you said that your friend told the first jerk that he is a pacifist I really didn't need to read the remainder of your post. I really cannot see anything that you can do to change matters. Your friend can report the bully to the police, but it'll probably only encourage other bullies. Your friend won't defend himself. Relative to future possibilities, neither the school authorities nor the police can do anything until something happens. Honestly, if these thugs consider your friend sufficiently weak, than they'll be more than happy to find him off the school campus. That's just the way these people work.

On another note, I changed schools a LOT when I was young. I remember one particular school where I had so many girls who wanted to thrash me that I began asking those who threatened me if they wanted me to place their name on a list. :rolleyes: Anyhow, I made friends with a member of their group, and he talked to many of these girls on my behalf. It turned out that the school had its own little "gang" problem. Unfortunately, I pissed off a member of one of the Spanish gangs by talking to her boyfriend. Anyhow, I wonder if you might get an "in" with one of members of the group. I'm sure there's a group since these people never work alone. 95% of them are cowards, it's the 5% you have to worry about. Alternatively, your friend can change his position and defend himself (my first option). Otherwise, you may need to keep the ice bags ready. I'm really sorry that the world is full of such idiots.
 
NeedleRemorse said:
He's not going to school tomorrow (A great learning environment! :rolleyes: ), and I'm going to go to the office first period, and if they don't not only get the cops involved but expell the one who punched him and the one who threatened to kill him and is on parole, I'll get the cops involved myself (guess who's parole officer isn't going to be impressed?). One of the teacher's words of wisdom was "I hate to condone violence, but don't be his punching bag." We're outnumbered, outmuscled, and I'd rather not solve it that way, and I think that was a pretty stupid thing to say.

On another note, thanks for the kind words, Ren :)

update us tomorrow..ok..crap like this stuff pisses me off big time..
 
Ren the devils trailboss said:
Needle this is serious stuff....

Calling someone a "fag" and beating on them is a hate crime. It goes beyond bullying. If the school has a hands off attitude..dude call the cops yourself.

Ren, you scored a bull's eye here. This is a classic "hate crime." The police need to be involved, especially when there's been additional threats with escalating severity.

If it were me, I would :

1) Be sure that your friend is not left alone around the school grounds.
2) Request an immediate meeting with the Principal. If he/she/it won't take
action, go over over the worthless administrator's head - to the Police,
and maybe the School Board.
3) Don't stop until charges are filed, and action is taken against the conspirators.

Your friend may be a pacifist, but swallowing this kind of abuse can be psychologically damaging. I hope the school councellor is good.
 
Jennifer,

I don't think I've got much of a chance, nor do I want one, as far as getting in their group goes. They're the stereotypical unintelligent jocks that think our school is a ghetto (that couldn't be further from the truth, our area is very clean). I prefer to be around people who won't annoy every part of my being with their idiocy and ignorance.

Ren, I remember that last school year your son was having some problems with a bunch of morons and I hope things have improved, I see stuff like that too often at my school, and I can see why my generation has such a bad reputation, it's disgusting.
 
Never insult a Scotman's tartan, it's their traditional battle dress uniform. (You need to get him a dirk for that kilt)
On a serious note, get the cops involved. Don't let the school try to cover things up.
 
Of course, jsmatos is right. The school wants this to go away--and in the quietest manner possible. Depending on where you live--they may be able to keep the police out of this-- at least at first. If they take this attitude, letters to the editor are exactly what they don't want to see--and it's something that you could bring up.
It might be a good idea for your friend to do that anyway--because if it's kept quiet---they win. And it'll happen again to someone else.
 
Wearing a kilt is not wrong. Even if the tartan were wrong, obviously, it isn't a reason to be cruel to them. We know that isn't the reason he hurt your friend. Besides, one of the easy tartans to get is...well...blackwatch... :p

First, I think it was very polite of your friend to give the money to that kid for a hacky-sack. I don't know many adults who would admit they were wrong and correct the situation. Kudos to him. And to you, for being a supportive friend. Good friends can be hard to find sometimes.

I feel for your friend. Being a kind person and a pacifist are hard in high school. It's hard normally, but I think high school really is one of those environments that can bring the worst out in people. Kinda like if you were to be jammed in a small space with family for long periods of time.

Your friend is very observant, and that's a big asset. He can avoid lotsa issues that way, though I hope this comes to a clean end very soon. It is wrong to have to worry about your personal safety, especially when you are forced to go to the place where you are in danger, for your own education. I can only say, do what you feel is right and stand up for yourselves and your morals and ethics. Don't let them force your hand to fight.

I wish you good luck with this.

BTW, NeedleRemorse, I'm curious, what part of MA are you in? I'm guessing from posts, NE somewhere, just not sure where. That is, if you wish to give out that info.
 
I live in Northeastern Massachusetts, in Groveland, about an hour from Boston and near Haverhill and Newburyport. Thanks for your support.


Here's my final plan:

1) Go to the office, tell the principal the story, tell her that he is no longer coming to school and that he is planning on having police intervention, and telling her that the students involved have to face a punishment stricter than suspension because they are not afraid of suspension and he does not feel safe there.

If that doesn't work:

2) Tell my german teacher, who leads the Gay/Straight Alliance that Dave and I are members of about the situation so that he can help to pressure the administration to do the right thing.

If that doesn't work:

3) I love to write, and I would love to write a letter to the local newspaper for them to publish. Then, seeing as there is no hope left, (police charges would have been pressed or he would have tried regardless of what the school does), I might leave the school as well, because I'd like to send a message (and go to a better school). I've always wanted to go to Waring High School in Beverly :) (Edit, upon looking at this school's information after so many great things I had heard, I came to learn that it's a private school with 6 grades and 128 students, so at around 20 kids per grade, maybe it's not for me :eek: )
 
I think that sounds like a decent plan. It's what I would like to think I'd do in that situation. Having people on your side is good, so the German teacher would be a good step. I'd like to hope that the first step is all that's needed, but I'm glad you thought it out. Impulse is the reason those guys are the punks they are...not to defame punk...

I went to a private school with 6 kids in my grade, something like 40 in the whole jr.high/high school. I was much happier there and we all got along. It was a much happier place than my public school experiences.

GL, again.
 
He just called, the doctors think he has an orbital fracture and they're going to make sure, if they're right, he has to go to a neurologist. :mad:
 
The first thing you should do is what you've already done: write it up like a newspaper story, but in the form of a letter to the editor. When you talk to the school administration, show them the letter, so they know exactly what's going to go to the newspaper if they don't take care of business.

Standards vary, and what's appropriate in one situation may not be in another. Some schools have a zero tolerance policy that makes a joke of itself every time they use it to overreact to a picture of a butter knife. Your school ignores assault and battery, a serious criminal offense.

The advantage of a small town over a big city is that a big city has to go by the law and bureaucratic procedure. A small town can have the police round up the bad kids, sit them down for some plain talk by the chief, and send them home with the words echoing in their ears: "It's over. Leave him alone."

Involve the police. Whether they want to bother or not.
 
Here's the e-mail Dave sent our German teacher:



Dear Herr Phenix,

I hope your absence from school was not serious. The GSA was
announced, and is scheduled for tomorrow. However, it is with great
regret that I must inform you that I am no longer welcome at PRHS,
and, thus, will not be in attendance. You see, Herr Phenix, I have a
sad story to tell. Last Wednesday, the day I wore the kilt, I
received the kind of taunting that might be expected in response to
such a bold statement. A group of ninth graders playing hacky-sack
found my attire to be extremely "gay," and even likened it in gayness
to my mohawk, surely the hallmark of any homosexual. In an act of
retaliation, my good friend, Dan Moore (Me, NeedleRemorse), approached the group and we took their hacky sack and I threw it in the pond. Well,
as I'm sure you have already concluded, the ninth graders were none
too pleased. It soon came into my knowledge that the sacks owner was
in fact Ricky Hackett, who, in fact, I did not know. As I took the
late bus home, I realized that the young man was a relative innocent,
and that my rash actions were poorly thought out and, perhaps,
unjustly executed. The next morning I promptly sought out the
indignant young fellow, and proceeded to give him money with which to
purchase a new sack. I apologized, and, before leaving, shook his
hand. As I left for the long weekend, I felt quite assured that this
rather unpleasant chapter in my life was over, and I could focus on
more pressing issues. However, upon my arrival at school on Tuesday,
a young man approached me in the halls. Recognizing him as one of
Nils's cronies, I became quite worried when he shoved me. "Fagg0t!"
he exclaimed with gusto, "do you like picking on little kids or
something?" After leaving his remarkably articulate question hanging
in the air for several moments, I informed him that there was a
misunderstanding and that I did not know who he or this "little kid"
he spoke of were. "Yes," said he, "my little cousin, you threw his
hacky-sack in the pond!" When he realized that this did not send me
to my knees begging for forgiveness, he became disgruntled and surly.
We parted ways and went to separate classes. It was during the next
locker break that I was confronted once again, this time by a sickly
looking young woman on the arm of the surly boy. "Fagg0t!" she
sneered at me, and her beaux added a stiff shoulder for added
measure, not wanting me to leave, once again, unsure of my sexual
orientation. The next several classes went uneventfully, that is,
until I entered Music Appreciation. Upon my entrance, I had an
epiphany. I realized that not only was Nils in this class, but his
smaller, surly friend was also in attendance. After I took my seat, I
was called upon by Nils. He addressed me, appropriately enough, as
"MOHAWK!" and proceeded to explain to me, in a system of language
that would make any intelligent life form weep, that picking on
little kids was not only retarded, but painted me as a raging
homosexual. Now, with a bemused and tired smirk, I told Nils that his
addressing my with this message was not only the death of irony, but
inappropriate, seeing as how I have never spoken to him before. Nils
assured me that, although he did not know me either, picking on
smaller kids was retarded no matter what. The music class dragged on
for what seemed like hours, often interrupted by threats such as "you
are such a ****1ng fagg0t, dude," or the almost painfully clever
"what size are your clothes, gay?" As the end of the class neared, I
was informed that, and I am paraphrasing, I would come under serious
bodily harm in the very near future. This promise, if you will, was
then supported by a swift blow to the area of flesh behind my left
ear. I explained to Patrick Fandell, for that is the surly young
man's name, that this was juvenile and that I was a pacifist. It
would appear, as the grunts from Nils and his like-minded entourage
hinted, that this is synonymous with "queer!" in Nils-speak. The bell
started to ring, and, as I left the class, my sweatshirt was grabbed
and I was thrown against the wall. "Be a man!" Patrick cried
fervently, explaining that only gay kids didn't fight. Despite his
compelling argument, I reiterated that I was, and always will be, a
pacifist. His brain tired from all of the speaking, Patrick decided
to put this "fagg0t" in his place. He landed a solid blow to my eye.
As I bled from my eye, my nose, and my mouth, I asked "are you done
now?" After a moment of admiring his handiwork, Patrick and Nils left
together, muttering that only pussies take ONE goddamned punch. Well,
I went to the nurses office to get an ice pack, and, upon seeing my
wound, an ice pack was applied and the establishment was called for.
The important thing to keep in mind was that I had no intentions of
telling the administration. However, after a startlingly boring and
sore half hour in Mr. Thornton's office, I admitted who the offenders
were. Once I reached my house, my mother was called and she was told
that Patrick had been suspended for three days. I would like to add
that he was the only one spoken to. So, needless to say, I entered
the school building rather cautiously today. I turned in the GSA
announcement, and then proceeded to go to the nurse, who informed me
that my eye socket was most likely fractured. (Queers get what's
coming to 'em, huh?) With great news like that to start the day off,
I was hardly bothered when I was shoved by the sickly girlfriend. In
fact, I was in such a good mood, I had almost forgotten about the
execution the seniors had acted out directly outside the door of my
history classroom, stopping only to point at me and make "gun-hands."
At lunch, myself, my girlfriend, and her friends were approached many
times. Folks with threats on my life and people curious as to who
Nils's next victim was showed up, one and all. My next class was
Music Appreciation, with Nils. Mr. Thornton was at lunch, so I
approached him and told him that I was not at all comfortable in
attending Music Appreciation. At this he said "You really should go,
if you don't, you let them win." Shocked, I almost expected him to
finish his sentence with the obligatory "queer." Nils entered Music
five minutes late, as his is accustomed to, and glared at me
continually as he sat down. Once seated, he explained to his friends,
falsely mind you, that I had called the cops and "ratted" on him. You
would think that one of his ill repute would at least know that
informing the police is school protocol, but alas, neither he nor his
friends understood this. Soon enough, the phrase "freak!" was uttered
at me by Nils again and again. And, of course, he would be staring at
me with those bright, intelligent eyes the entire time. As the class
progressed, audible threats were made on my life, and a clever system
to punch me every day was created. Fearing my safety, I snuck out of
the class early. I went to Thornton's office and told him that I was
done, and that I felt I was unsafe. He took down a few names, and
said he would call them down to the office and reprimand them,
obviously unaware this would only increase the bounty on my pointy,
orange head. I told him that he had to wait until tomorrow, if only
to secure my safety on the way to my girlfriends car. At this time,
he explained that my name would not be mentioned. He said that he
was, in fact, not stupid, and that he had even heard people
discussing it at lunch. Please keep in mind he heard this, and then
proceeded to "strongly encourage" me to go to Music Appreciation.
Now, I write this having just returned from the hospital. I had my
eye x-rayed four times, and it is believed that my eye socket may be
fractured. If this is so, I'll be making a doubtlessly awesomely fun
visit to the neurologist. Not that I am bitter that my mothers night
was ruined by three hours at the hospital with her battered son, it
is just that it strikes me as somewhat unfair. My mother has taken me
out of school for the time being, and Nils is being suspended along
with Patrick. It seems to me that if i was to return on Monday to be
greeted by Nils and Patrick, that I would certainly die the death of
one who acts as an individual at Pentucke.t High School. The attacks
on me quickly elevated from some demented form of chivalry into what
is quite clearly assault and battery, hate crimes, and, of course,
harassment. So, what's the point of this email, you might find
yourself asking. Well, Herr Phenix, I chose to write to you over all
of the other teachers to write to because I felt that we shared an
irreverence that made your class the saving grace of Pentucke.t, which
otherwise made my life a living hell. I feel that the administration
handled this problem poorly, and that the level of tolerance accepted
in the school is absolutely, completely unacceptable. I'm not asking
you to make a personal crusade of this, but perhaps to raise the
public awareness. Maybe you could talk about this issue at the
gay/straight alliance? Thanks for reading, I hope I might be able to
return, although it looks doubtful. I at least want to stay in touch,
and I want you to know that you have really meant a lot to me as a
teacher and a friend. Thanks for the good german classes, man. I
don't want to put you in a rough position or anything, just to let
you know of what is going on under the watchful eye of our
open-minded administration. Thanks, really. Oh, if you would be so
kind as to write back, my personal email is (removed)

Dave
 
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