Sorry, but I really hate SNAKES (snake lovers do NOT open)

I hope your dog is ok Eli, and be all means you have the right and the obligation to protect your family.
 
Water snakes, black snakes=:thumbup: copperheads, rattlesnakes=:thumbdn:

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Ian Allomes said:
I hope your dog is OK mate, still, if she’s been bit ten times this season she’s probably got a fair immunity to then by now.

They don’t usually get a second chance with our snakes here. The Red Belly Blacks if given antivenin they generally make it. Eastern Browns, Tigers, Death Adders or the Australian Copper Head generally means it’s all over bar the shoutin’

I’ve lost some good working dogs and plenty of horses from snakes, so I’m not a great lover of them. :D
I have a rule here, if they stay out in the bush where they belong, I leave them alone. If they come into the house paddock they are introduced to a S/S Merkel and No 9 shot.

Stan doesn’t seem to go after them, and most of my dogs have always learned to keep away from them, but not all.

I used to have a working heeler named “Stupid” :D and while managing a cattle property years ago I had just knocked off for the day and was getting a cold drink when I started to hear all of the dogs barking at the back of the homestead, I went out and witnessed a Western Brown (a big fella too) biting old stupid on the neck. I always kept a .shortened 410 under the settee on the verandah for snakes around the house.
I grabbed the gun as the snake was heading into the tractor shed. I took a snap shot at him as he was nearly under a concrete slab in the shed, so only got him in the tail.
I then walked back to Stupid as he was already over on his side and quivering. He was dead in less than two minutes. There are not many second chances with those big buggers.

When children are at risk you should have every right to dispatch every one you find around the house IMO.

Anyway good luck with your dog xaman
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I can only imagine how scary it must be to live in Australia, where the number of venomous snakes outnumbers the non-venomous ones. Plus, all the other crazy powerfully venomous animals found in the land and sea. The biggest thing I have to worry about is copperheads, and maybe brown recluse.

Side story: I was wondering the local creek, just looking for crayfish when I saw a snake caught in a net. I decided to cut away the net away, and after about 20 minutes(this was before I had a Busse, and the knife was dull) I finally got it free. I took a few pictures and took it to the local reptile expert and found out it was a copperhead. Whops

While I never would kill a snake, I have to respect people that do(only venomous ones though, no need to kill a garter snake), especially when you have already had close encounters with your daughter and dog. To each his own, right? :thumbup:

Oh, and like everyone said, I like the picture with the head on the knife:thumbup:

Good luck with the pup
 
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on_the_edge said:
Diamondback rattlesnakes account for approximately 95% of all serpent related fatalities in the US.

Usually, when you separate them from their heads, when you pick up the body, the body will attempt several "headless" strikes at your hand or arm. Of course, with no head, one has nothing to fear, but it is still a little spooky to see this activity going on 30 minutes later. Do you see the same thing in copperheads?

BTW, nice pics! :thumbup:
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Something............anything still having a go at you after it's lost it's head is more than spooky it's bloody outragous :eek:
 
on_the_edge said:
Diamondback rattlesnakes account for approximately 95% of all serpent related fatalities in the US.

Usually, when you separate them from their heads, when you pick up the body, the body will attempt several "headless" strikes at your hand or arm. Of course, with no head, one has nothing to fear, but it is still a little spooky to see this activity going on 30 minutes later. Do you see the same thing in copperheads?

BTW, nice pics! :thumbup:
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I've had Cottonmouth try to strike me with no head and while having tire tread for a body as well. But even spookier to me is a 3' Gaboon Viper almost hitting me at 4" away.:eek:
 
xaman said:
Thankfully we don't see many of them around here...:)

In South and West Texas, I am definitely always wearing snake boots. I have a friend who lost his uncle to a Rattlesnake bite --- he knelt down to pick something up and the people who were standing 100 yards away said it sounded like someone hit him in the neck with a baseball bat. He died within minutes. Dangerous animals to say the least.

Jaxx, here's a pic of that Copperhead that "almost" got my daughter --- he now resides on her tomahawk sheath:

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Very cool sheath! :thumbup: Whatcha got planned for this snake? :D BTW, I hope your dog will recover quickly. :)
 
Yeah, I have a Bull Terrier /Lab mix. Dumb as ass but shes part of the family. I can see her getting bit multiple times as well.
 
I hear that snake tastes like chicken. Tried it when I was a kid, but forgot what it tasted like...
 
I always thought that the other, OTHER white meat referred to the women of Scandinavia...
 
I've had to apologize to many dead brown water snakes that snuck up on me in the swamp, chop first, ask questions later.
 
She is a good dog, hope she gets better soon. All bulldogs are hardheaded, that's why we love'em:D. We live in FL. and I love animals but have no mercy when it comes to protecting family, or my dogs, just like my dogs do not think twice when they have to protect us. One of my bulldogs got bit by a rattlesnake in a cheak few years ago, veterinarian told me to bring him in...so he can put him down...I told him that there is a reason why I'm holding a phone in my hand, not a shootgun. Long story short, I took bully into the house and after four days from hell, he was drinking watter again. It wasnt pretty, but...that's life.
Snakes meat does taste like chicken, still too much work for one meal:D.
 
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I hope your dog recovers. We have a cat, Tater, who has 30+ snake kills under his belt in the last 2 years. Granted they are only 2-3ft garter snakes, (he doesn't know that...a snake is a snake to him). It's hard to say how many times he's been bitten. Good thing they weren't poisonous.
 
My policy has always been to leave 'em alone when I can...or at least it was until an aggressive black rattler came after me on a dig a few years ago. Don't like 'em, don't want anything to do with them. Hope your dog is better real soon!
 
Thanks for the sympathy gang, she's going to be fine...

Ian, you always have the best stories! Life down under sounds adventurous.

T, here's an old pic -- she normally gets a softball sized goiter around her neck for a day, by day two it's more like a tennis ball, and gone by day three. Sometimes she comes in happy-go-lucky, other times she looks drunk and confused. I only find about 1 in 3 or 4 of the snakes after the fact, so most of the times it's a mystery as to what got her.


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I've heard that most venomous snakes can control the release of venom, and are a bit reluctant to "empty" their stores... Some bites are worse than others, so it's hard to say if it's a bigger snake, or just a bigger bite.
 
I love that dog! I wish I were allowed to have a "real dog". Not enough room here, though. If my dog were to come across a poisonous snake, he'd almost certainly be killed.

I've never been bitten, but one of my old girlfriends was hit by a copperhead in the arm several years ago. It was horrible, her arm swelled up HUGE and she spent a good amount of time in the hospital for it. I hope I never find out what it feels like.
My wife's whippet Pumpkin has been bitten by brown recluse spiders (or something similarly nasty) twice. The first time she was bitten on the paw and it swelled up so badly that it looked like she was wearing a catcher's mitt- it swelled up so bad that the skin split open and made an ungodly mess. The second time she was bitten on the ear and the whole side of her head swelled up so she looked like the elephant dog. It seriously looked like somebody had stuck an air hose in and inflated her ear like a balloon. I hope my son never comes across one of those nasty little buggers!

The only close call I've ever had with a poisonous snake was many years ago. My grandfather was mowing one of his fields with his bush hog and I was walking ahead with a shotgun, in case he scared up any rabbits. (rabbits= crazy tasty! :thumbup:)
I had to take a leak, so I wandered over to the treeline, and set my gun down on the ground. After I finished my business, I heard a loud "sssssssss", like the sound effect when somebody's taking a leak in a cartoon. Looking down, I had set my shotgun down right on top of a good-sized copperhead, that was striking at my foot but was pinned down by the weight of the gun. (excellent situational awareness on my part, I know. The grass was pretty tall) I took a few seconds to plan my move, and reached down and stepped back with the gun, snap-shooting the snake's head clean off. We stretched and cured the skin and made a nice hat band out of it.

I had a lot of great memories with that gun growing up, on my grandfather's huge farm in Virginia. When he died I inherited it, a beautiful old Steven's Savage 12 ga. side by side. I was pure murder on the rabbits that plagued my grandma's gardens, and took my share of deer with it as well.
 
im so glad we don't got lethal snakes in sweden (well we do got a kind of viper, but they rarely kill some one, and they are not all to venomous).

but i tell you this, if a snake crosses my way, i won't hurt it before i feel threatened, their is a line of respect, and that goes for both animals and humans! i will without doubt kill to protect myself and my loved ones if they/me is in a situation that requiers a kill of an snake in favor to my own life.
 
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