Sorry, but I really hate SNAKES (snake lovers do NOT open)

i know exactly where you are coming from. in tennessee we lived on a farm and every night id let my dog out and hed come back with a raccoon but was bitten like 10 times by snakes. i left them alone until one night my son took out the trash and he comes back inside with a huge bite on his ankle. got my dog (his name was bo) took off his choker (he knew it was time) grabbed my 12 ga. went outside for about an hour and killed atleast 60 snakes. i have a picture somewhere ill find it. but there was so much noise 3 patrol cars came up asking if me and the wife got into a fight lol. i told them what i was doing and they said keep it up. not many fans of snakes i believe.
 
xaman said:
Thanks for the sympathy gang, she's going to be fine...

Ian, you always have the best stories! Life down under sounds adventurous.

T, here's an old pic -- she normally gets a softball sized goiter around her neck for a day, by day two it's more like a tennis ball, and gone by day three. Sometimes she comes in happy-go-lucky, other times she looks drunk and confused. I only find about 1 in 3 or 4 of the snakes after the fact, so most of the times it's a mystery as to what got her.


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I've heard that most venomous snakes can control the release of venom, and are a bit reluctant to "empty" their stores... Some bites are worse than others, so it's hard to say if it's a bigger snake, or just a bigger bite.
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THanks Eli, again wasnt being cruel. I love my girls too. They are family.

My lab dint get the goiter thing so maybe it wasnt a snake.

Vet thought it might of been some spider??

But it did react differently than what ya showed. So , maybe.


Her snout swole up to about the size of her head:(

May all of yours be safe and sound:thumbup:


Keep up the good work brutha;)
 
Hey T,

SHe doesn't ALWAYS ge the goiter, but mostly. However, there is always evidence of the bite --- in other words, you will definitely see fang marks somewhere. Occassionally there is only one (a poor hit/strike) but mostly there are 2. See the first pic, there are two marks, one is easy to see, the other is directly below the first.
 
Fallons Knives said:
i know exactly where you are coming from. in tennessee we lived on a farm and every night id let my dog out and hed come back with a raccoon but was bitten like 10 times by snakes. i left them alone until one night my son took out the trash and he comes back inside with a huge bite on his ankle. got my dog (his name was bo) took off his choker (he knew it was time) grabbed my 12 ga. went outside for about an hour and killed atleast 60 snakes. i have a picture somewhere ill find it. but there was so much noise 3 patrol cars came up asking if me and the wife got into a fight lol. i told them what i was doing and they said keep it up. not many fans of snakes i believe.
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Okay, now THAT sounds like a plague!
 
My dog and my daughters think so, makes me feel really good on the inside :)
 
xaman said:
Hey T,

However, there is always evidence of the bite --- in other words, you will definitely see fang marks somewhere. Occassionally there is only one (a poor hit/strike) but mostly there are 2. See the first pic, there are two marks, one is easy to see, the other is directly below the first.
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Xaman,
Our Copperheads don’t cause swelling and look to be a different kind of snake altogether than yours. No swelling after the bite, but rapid coagulation of the blood causing heart failure.
You need to import some Kookaburras from here, snakes are high on their diet, and we often spot one whacking a young snake against a tree, tenderizing it for supper. :D
I love your dog; they’re not that popular here unfortunately, though, I’ve seen a few around.
 
Ian,

Your copperheads are altogether different than these. The ones around here are rarely fatal for humans, just make you real sick and could put you in the hospital for a few days (unless you're very small, like my 9 year old...) They do often kill dogs (especially smaller ones) and cats. Cottonmouths are more dangerous, bigger and more aggressive, and can often be found running in groups. They could easily kill a man.

But man, down there where you are, those are nasty kritters.

Think you could send me a few of those Kookaburras USPS???
 
I ran into this one in front of my house this spring. Not killed with a knife though...S&W 629 was a much better choice.

BTW, talk to a vet about snake bite vaccinations, there are differing opinions on it but all the K9 handlers I work with get them.

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My last experience was with a rattle snake I almost stepped on in my flip flops. It was in the front yard (grass) of my brother in law's parents at a family get together. It coiled up and started striking at my ankles. It was just a little one, smaller than that one you killed. Some of the guys said "hey, catch that Gardner snake" and I told them, it was a baby rattler. Not 3 feet away from a bunch of babies in diapers crawling around in the yard playing.

The neighbor kid the day before had caught one of the snakes siblings, and showed his mom the "Gardner snake" he caught. It bit her, and she had to go to the emergency room for the anti serum.
That same summer my wife's dog got snake bit walking on a trail right in the middle of town (Provo Utah) her right leg and chest swelled up so much her chest was dragging on the ground. It was a Beagle. and they had to do surgery on the dog a week or so later (can't remember which organ failed either as a reaction to the venom or the steroids or the anti venom).
I am just glad we don't have the prolific nasties like Australia does. Seems like everything over there is super poisonous.
 
northern1 said:
killem all
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Actually not the best idea. Kings and a few other species, here in Florida that is, actually eat rattlers and other poisonous snakes. Better to educate yourself on identifying them, then only kill the posinous ones!!!
 
One of my father's best friends (now passed) once told me that the worst whooping he ever got from his father was when he killed the king snake that lived in his family's barn...

He did say that he learned to leave the king snakes alone... :D
 
mymindisamob said:
I've had Cottonmouth try to strike me with no head and while having tire tread for a body as well. But even spookier to me is a 3' Gaboon Viper almost hitting me at 4" away.:eek:
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:eek: The Gaboon Viper has the distinction of having the longest fangs of any viper--2" plus. :thumbup: Of course, if you got hit by one, that would be the last of your worries, no doubt.

I once saw video of a jungle guide almost take a bite from the side care of a black mamba once. Besides being very quick and wary, he was also extremely lucky. I would not have been so fortunate, that's for sure!
 
jlo86cj said:
I ran into this one in front of my house this spring. Not killed with a knife though...S&W 629 was a much better choice.

BTW, talk to a vet about snake bite vaccinations, there are differing opinions on it but all the K9 handlers I work with get them.
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Don't waste your money on the vaccinations-they are not effective. Thats why the manufacturer (Red Rock Biologics) advises bringing envenomated dogs to the 'Vet for antiserum. We looked at it because Tucson is loaded with rattlesnakes.

Best bet is to train the dog to stay away from snakes-everyone lives. A friend of ours travels around snake training bird dogs for hunt clubs. He uses a few rattlers in wire pens so the dogs learn the smell and sound. Works pretty good.
 
ByronTodd said:
One of my father's best friends (now passed) once told me that the worst whooping he ever got from his father was when he killed the king snake that lived in his family's barn...

He did say that he learned to leave the king snakes alone... :D
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I have a black racer living under the giant elephant ear plant in my front yard. Hes been there for years, I leave him alone, he keeps the rodents/lizards in check.
 
BillCutting said:
Actually not the best idea. Kings and a few other species, here in Florida that is, actually eat rattlers and other poisonous snakes. Better to educate yourself on identifying them, then only kill the posinous ones!!!
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Our red Belly Blacks are cannibalistic as well, do help to keep down the Easter Brown’s that are far more dangerous.
The red Belly will usually do everything in his power to get out of your way. But not always. :D
My wife stepped over a six footer laying across our front doorway one morning. It was the fastest I’ve ever seen her move. :D
 
Your dog brings back memories, when my dad had coon dogs he would get calls to help ranchers and farmers help eradicate coons in barns that were doing damage to there feed, dad got a call from a friend one night and i got to go with him i was about 12 and Trailer his best dog at the time went to baying and i started to go inside the pins and dad said listen can you hear the rattler. My dad went in and the coon was in the corner of the barn and the snake was there to dad got trailer out but he was bit 3 times he lived but it was a ugly sight when he got well he raised hell until we took him back coon hunting he was a great dog...... I watched a guy that trained dogs to avoid rattlers he took shock collars and put them on the dogs, then he had a rattler that had his mouth was tied together by a vet when the dogs picked up the scent and looked at the rattler it was mildly shocked after he got through the dog owners could not drag the dogs to the snake the dogs were expensive pointers etc.. for quail, pheasant etc. and then they untied the snakes mouth. I hope your dog is ok.
 
I dislike snakes but I'm also against killing animals.
If there are out there, i against ppl find them kill them just to skin them.
But if they hurt my dogs, i'll have no choice but to hurt them or rid of them so my dogs won't get hurt again.

Between dog & snake, i'll play my favorit. When dogs live human, often they are not just dogs, they are "family". Even if I ever raise a snake, i doubt i'll still see them as a family. They just feel different.

Your girl looks cute and pretty, i hope she is well and get smarter not to play with other animal out there who isn't friendly to play with. That include cats :D
 
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