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Southard (and others) washer / bearing upgrade kit

Discussion in 'For Sale: Gadgets & Gear' started by therealPlatonicForms, Oct 14, 2017.

  1. Norgman

    Norgman Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 7, 2018
  2. JNewell


    Nov 18, 2005
    Posted this in the Spyderco forum but also wanted to follow up on my order here.

    The Southard is a great knife. The 204P blade has a great profile for my uses and takes and holds a great edge. The build quality throughout is extremely high. Mine also sat unused because the action was so poor that attempting to flip the knife open was pure frustration. I opened it up a couple of years ago and found the washers deformed and the bearings somewhat crushed. I had never adjusted the pivot - this was from the factory.

    This kit completely re-birthed my Southard. It now flips perfectly. It's a pleasure, rather than a frustration, to use the knife. I would highly recommend these parts.

    In my knife, the bearing cage needed to be opened slightly to fit on the pivot. The washers did not require any thickness adjustment.

    All my contacts with the gentleman who is offering these were speedy and courteous, and the washer kit was mailed almost immediately. I do recommend watching the install video before you install the parts. I have more than 20 years' experience fiddling with folders and there were a few pointers on this knife that I found helpful.

    Highly recommended. (I received no compensation or benefits of any kind for this post.)
    Daniel and therealPlatonicForms like this.
  3. sdmf74


    Jun 21, 2016
    I cannot find the install video, link please? I am definately gonna order a set of these
  4. John GERDING

    John GERDING

    Dec 24, 2017
    Im in for a set for my Domino, Email Sent to OP..
  5. John GERDING

    John GERDING

    Dec 24, 2017
    Well I dont know if OP is out of this bearing game or not but I am impatient so I sought out parts elsewhere. For anybody looking to improve the action on their Domino, I can tell you for sure upgrading bearings makes a huge difference... The bearings that came in the Domino and presumably the same ones in the Southard are possibly the worst bearings I have ever seen in a knife... But I love the Domino for a great many reasons so I wanted to give it the action it deserves... I started by ordering a set of stainless bearings from usaknifemaker, this is the set here..https://usaknifemaker.com/caged-ball-bearing-set-ss-1-4-dia-set-2-bearings-2-race-washers.html Now the OD is more important then the ID on the bearings and these are a decent fit but they do leave a little play on the OD, its not bad and you will never know if you get this set... The OD is listed as .0416... However being the crazy dude I am I would be much happier with Ceramic Bearings (OCD) so after a great deal of searching I found a set, they are a tad smaller in the ID and OD then the stainless set I bought, But I ordered then anyway to see how they work out, worst case scenario Im out $10.. The Ceramic Set is found here.. https://www.bocabearings.com/products/f5-10brc-i0002085 Now the other big thing is the washers... Those awful tin foil washers Spyderco used, So what I did was ordered a set of PB washers from usaknifemaker... These were listed as .250 ID and they were a good bit to big OD to fit in the recesses of the Domino, but thats nothing a few minutes with a dremel and some sand paper wouldnt fix... These are just a hair thicker then the stock washers and a good bit sturdier, though they do not cause any problems at all after installed... usaknifemaker does have a smaller set of PB washers listed, but at the time of this post they are out of stock... With the new washers and stainless bearing set installed the action is infinitely smoother. I spent all of $8 at usaknifemaker for this upgrade... and it was only that much because they have a minimum number of PB washers you can order... How well the PB washers will hold up will be known in due time..

    Meanwhile the biggest problem with the Domino is actually the Detent, so the next part of my action improvement project is going to involve drilling the detent hole a tad bigger so the detent ball can seat deeper and replacing the stainless detent ball with a ceramic detent ball... I expect this to make all the difference in the world... however I am currently not sure what size the detent ball actually is so i do not know what size bit I will need or what size Ball to order... I dont have a Micrometer so if anybody knows the size of the Ball please let me know, Thanks... [​IMG] [​IMG]

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