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And to think, all the participants at MWKK04 met Dan before he was elevated to Moderatorship. We knew you "back then." I'm going to have a hank of that rope he cut framed. :p
 
I already do...well, actually I have it still hanging on that stray nail in the garage, but hey, it still ought to be worth something, eh?
 
munk said:
What would be more natural than chowing down and continuing upon the trek of self discovery?
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About 40 years ago, I was back into the World from regions east, starting a new life and at the very edge of a major personal transformation. I had just read Castanada's first book and I couldn't wait to "Dance with Mescalito".

I knew a guy that had some peyote buttons and I went to get some, but they were all gone. However he did have some "Pure Mescaline". It was a coarse white substance that we mixed with Nestles Quick and put into gelatin capsules.

Every day for about two weeks, my girlfriend and I would drop a few caps and sit in the Lotus position meditating waiting for the fire of enlightenment to descend and shower us with universal knowledge. It was a pretty intense trip and took every ounce of strength we could muster, but we could sit for sometimes 45 minutes, but then we would explode and be consumed with sexual passion that would last for hours. Our experiences were certainly different from those of Carlos, but perhaps we were better suited to something more physical like Tantric Buddhism. Our search for enlightenment continued as our tools and techniques changed and evolved. We never tried "Mescaline "again.

Years later I met the guy who sold us the "Pure Mescaline". What he sold us was "Pure Methadrine". It sounded the same to him. What it actually was high quality Speed. No wonder it was so damned hard to sit still, but the sex was Transcendent!
 
FallingKnife said:
"Pen actually likes a hollow ground edge"
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Heretic!!

:p :p :p

You had to know something like this was coming, didn't you Dan? I'm surprised it took so long, but then it isn't official yet 'til your name gets the switch thrown on it by Old Sparky.
 
Rusty said:

Heretic!!

:p :p :p

You had to know something like this was coming, didn't you Dan? I'm surprised it took so long, but then it isn't official yet 'til your name gets the switch thrown on it by Old Sparky.
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Get the switch on "Old Sparky" thrown on you in Ohio and your name goes in the obits. :eek:
 
We need Old Sparky back in all the states IMO!!!! The damned Lethal Injection is just too damned sterile and easy. An executed man, or woman, needs to Look like they were executed, not Put to Sleep.:rolleyes: Barring Old Sparky the Guillotine would be a nice choice.:D Maybe DrDan could answer the question that the head is still aware for a while after it's been removed from the body while still alive and breathing?:eek:
I'll bet that a few of the old methods of execution would still be the deterent they once were!!!!:D

Humane methods of distributing death should be retained for those who are humane themselves IMO which includes most animals and old folks. I'm definitely for death by choice for those with terminal illnesses or other such troubles.:D
 
I'm in favor of the gullotine, firing squad, or hanging. Humane killing is done for the benefit of those still living, not the benefit of the condemned.
We need to know what we are doing. If we are going to execute- let's execute. Old Sparky may have been too slow, though.


Let's face it- we'd have volunteers to do the work of the firing squad. Save the States some money.
Oh- benaround- from my days in Calif studying such things- most tablet mescaline is LSD mixed with various stuff. Good news about Acid though- test after test revealed it is relatively pure. No need to doctor it as it is cheap to make. Only problem is poor manufacture gets you 'lysurgems' (sic) if I recall correctly- a speedy, not quite there form of acid.

munk
 
Pen,

I was waiting to see your name at the bottom,
but instead I'll say it now.......

:eek: :eek: :eek:




:D
 
Rusty said:
Sorry, munk, the Peter Piper picked a peck of pickeld peyote remark was to Pendentive. You'll have to take a jar home with you when you come.

Like I said, I thought I was posting this thread to the whatchamacallit ( Back End forum ). Have since sent another to the Back End and that one made it.

Munk, Wovoka's dad ( forget his name ) came up with the 1860's Ghost Dance, and Wovoka brought it back in 1889. He lived on the Walker River Res, thirty miles away, and the Yereington res, about another 30 past the WRPT rez. What did you think he was smoking to have the dream? It's all over, I'm told, and I wouldn't see one if it bit me.
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A friend was on a collecting trip with some Huichole's from Tepic. I asked him what he did to find/locate the mysterious, almost invisible, little fellas.

He said that when you find the first one you should offer a prayer thanking the Spirit that guided you and pay your respects to the medicine itself and then you cut the top off---making sure you left plenty of root and consume it.

After a few minutes,you'll begin to see them peeking out from their hiding places, almost like they want you to find them.

It may be my imagination working overtime but it seemed like a kind of test to see if you were willing to make the effort/expend the energy to search them out.

After the third,one it seemed like you had to be careful where you stepped as they went from hiding to saying "Here I am-come pick me -please," almost anxious to take a look at the world through your senses.
 
Clearblue- what are you talking about? Another plant, or peyote, or?


munk
 
I liked the image of these little plants waiting to be picked so they might experience the world through your perceptions!



munk
 
Yvsa said:
I'll bet that a few of the old methods of execution would still be the deterent they once were!!!!:D
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Execution deters 100% as respects the one executed. That's good enough for me. BUT otherwise, execution does not deter. The bad guys don't "plan" on being caught, and those who commit "crimes of passion" don't plan - or think logically - at all. Pickpockets used to "work" executions in England when the execution was by "drawing and quartering" -- picking pockets being a capital crime itself at the time. If picking someone's pocket in range of the rain of guts and gore (when you WILL join the "show" if caught) does not deter, nothing we are likely to do will deter in that sense.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Execution deters 100% as respects the one executed. That's good enough for me. BUT otherwise, execution does not deter.
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I disagree because being executed prevented me from offing a couple of people in my younger days, yes seriously.:eek:
Maybe I'm too smart for my own good because I figured the jails were proof enough that no one was smart enough not to be caught.:p
Under today's laws on execution and generally getting life, with parole at that in some cases, I would probably have done it and pretty much gotten away with it.
Anytime anyone serves 20 years for murder I figure they got away with it. Those that were executed did not however.
I've talked with lots of people that were detered from crime by the threat of even possible execution. Maybe the ones in the study groups weren't from the same part of the country or something?
 
Executions prevent repeat offenders though.

The punishment should fit the crime. People in my country sometimes get a couple of years for murder (good ole' parole). :grumpy:
 
The stats on execution detering crime ares quoted by both sides to prove point- go figure. I don't recall the numbers now- but say 4% of the pop commit 90% or so of violent crime. 4% of 280 million is around 11 million people. (10 years ago 45% of homocides were committed by Black Males- I don't know if that is still true or not. )

That would keep the firing squads busy.

I'm in favor of execution, though I do think the burdon of proof should be very high- it would be nice to have a postive DNA sig on all cases.


And naturally, the process by which more killers are born and raised is unaffected.

munk
 
Just a tip for you entheogen afficianados. Peyote has been endangered from overpicking. It can take up to 50 years for a button to reach eating size. Respect your elders, stick with San Pedro or mushrooms.

Loved Castenadas books, although I think he mostly made them up based on a combination of central american shamanisim, gnostic ideas from the Marcion school, and especially the teachings of GI Gurdjieff. My fave Journey to Ixtlan. I actually try to practice some of the hunting techniques mentioned in Journey.
 
munk said:
The stats on execution detering crime ares quoted by both sides to prove point- go figure. I don't recall the numbers now- but say 4% of the pop commit 90% or so of violent crime. 4% of 280 million is around 11 million people. (10 years ago 45% of homocides were committed by Black Males- I don't know if that is still true or not. )

That would keep the firing squads busy.

I'm in favor of execution, though I do think the burdon of proof should be very high- it would be nice to have a postive DNA sig on all cases.


And naturally, the process by which more killers are born and raised is unaffected.

munk
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In addition a majority of violent crime is committed by people with Borderline Intellingence(ie IQ's 70's range) and lower. If we could prevent stupid people from breeding we could cut the crime rate ;)
 
What is San Pedro? Yes folks, I'm out of the loop of mind altering substances. I did know in some areas Peyote was over picked.

Is San Pedro psyillicyban? (sic)


As for Black murderers, would dying them white help?




munk
 
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