Specially for the Fatwood haters !

Alright, fatwood, dry tinder, bark scraping, be forgotten, I give you GG firesteel!!!!!!!!!!

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Photo by Shyann

My oldest was running the camera, the blurry pic was because I was in motion and I had my camera set to record fireworks. It did.:D

Pit, you sure you don't want a 1/2"x 3" for Christmas?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa (add maniacal laff)

Moose
 
I have no problem with fatwood . I do need more practice with other tenders. Last week end I tried a few things including the inner bark from a ceder. I got it but it was not pretty. or as fast as I would have liked.
 
pitdog said:
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ROCK6 said:
:D No, it's more like improvising with natural materials; dry, combustable and fine enough to catch and hold a spark. Fat wood is great, but not always available in all locations.



That was good post Chris...who was that runningboar guy anyways:D

ROCK6
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I forgot to add the :D. My point is that what makes fatwood better than wood is the resin content. It is wood + resin. In order to make it take a spark it has to be shaved fine or made into dust. So, the best iteration is fine wood shavings + resin...

In the example provided, pitdog used cedar bark and balsam sap to light a fire. Resin is really just dried out sap. Cedar bark is generally good for fire starting because is easily parsed in to fine fibers, that I am going to equate to fine shavings. I'm going to say cedar = wood for now. If fatwood is fine wood shavings + resin, then cedar bark and balsam sap is fine wood shavings + resin + water/volatile organics. Yes, pitdog had to scrounge a bit to find the components, but they are really the same components.:D
 
hlee said:
I forgot to add the :D. My point is that what makes fatwood better than wood is the resin content. It is wood + resin. In order to make it take a spark it has to be shaved fine or made into dust. So, the best iteration is fine wood shavings + resin...

In the example provided, pitdog used cedar bark and balsam sap to light a fire. Resin is really just dried out sap. Cedar bark is generally good for fire starting because is easily parsed in to fine fibers, that I am going to equate to fine shavings. I'm going to say cedar = wood for now. If fatwood is fine wood shavings + resin, then cedar bark and balsam sap is fine wood shavings + resin + water/volatile organics. Yes, pitdog had to scrounge a bit to find the components, but they are really the same components.:D
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Never forget the :D it makes a big difference !;):thumbup:
 
ROCK6 said:
:D No, it's more like improvising with natural materials; dry, combustable and fine enough to catch and hold a spark. Fat wood is great, but not always available in all locations.



That was good post Chris...who was that runningboar guy anyways:D

ROCK6
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Yeah, Rock I know I piss people off sometimes, one of the reasons for the name change was to try to be a kinder, gentler boar. :D

If you really want to piss some people off say something negative about fatwood, the only point I was trying to make is that is not the only game in town, as a lot of posts would lead you to believe, but as Pit's post proved there are other options, even in the wet PNW. Chris
 
Cool pics man,
As long as you get the fire going that is what counts.

I could care less if you use fat wood or gasoline and a firesteel,matches,
lighter or a coal, just so long as you post the pics of the fire:D.

Here is a fire

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I had fire yesterday for cooking Bison sausage, and frybread
to have with my cheese and crackers and tea. I started that fire with
some fat wood that I got at walmart and used my lighter to
start it all :p.


Bryan
 
moosez45 said:
Alright, fatwood, dry tinder, bark scraping, be forgotten, I give you GG firesteel!!!!!!!!!!

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Photo by Shyann

My oldest was running the camera, the blurry pic was because I was in motion and I had my camera set to record fireworks. It did.:D

Pit, you sure you don't want a 1/2"x 3" for Christmas?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa (add maniacal laff)

Moose
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That's awesome, I'm sure those sparks would light water itself !:D:thumbup:
 
Chris, you really piss people off:eek::D, Where the heck is that guy skammer when you need him lol

Bryan
 
August West said:
Yeah, Rock I know I piss people off sometimes, one of the reasons for the name change was to try to be a kinder, gentler boar. :D

If you really want to piss some people off say something negative about fatwood, the only point I was trying to make is that is not the only game in town, as a lot of posts would lead you to believe, but as Pit's post proved there are other options, even in the wet PNW. Chris
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Nah...you don't piss them off...debate and challenge are healthy and Pit came through. It is funny though..."don't talk about my fatwood...err, my mother!":eek::D

ROCK6
 
ROCK6 said:
Nah...you don't piss them off...debate and challenge are healthy and Pit came through. It is funny though..."don't talk about my fatwood...err, my mother!":eek::D

ROCK6
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It's just weird to search out other tinders when Fatwood is so common everywhere I hike. I must have passed 20 fatwood stumps before I gathered the Cedar and Balsam !

It's like crawling naked over 5 Brunette's to get to the blonde, my knees get sore quick I'll stop at the first Brunette thank you !:D
 
pitdog said:
It's just weird to search out other tinders when Fatwood is so common everywhere I hike. I must have passed 20 fatwood stumps before I gathered the Cedar and Balsam !

It's like crawling naked over 5 Brunette's to get to the blonde, my knees get sore quick I'll stop at the first Brunette thank you !:D
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You got that right.

Moose
 
pitdog said:
It's just weird to search out other tinders when Fatwood is so common everywhere I hike. I must have passed 20 fatwood stumps before I gathered the Cedar and Balsam !
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Regardless, that is no reason to not be well versed and skilled in a multitude of different techniques, you did not NEED a fire you were just practicing, if you want foolproof everytime never leave the house without a roadflare in your back pocket. Perhaps you will visit a place that isn't as fatwood rich, or a newb on this site lives somewhere that it is not that plentiful. Once I master a technique or skill I start looking for others to work on. Chris
 
myright said:
Hell.. they sell it in Lowes for those that think they can't get it :)
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Heck, there I go screwing up again, I thought we were going to the woods, if we're going to Lowes, I'll pick up an electric start propane torch, some roadflares and maybe some of those easy light sawdust fireplace logs. Chris
 
Pritch said:
LOL! I expected a collossal clash with the skamster but the Wilson diversion brought a smile. Hang in there, short-timer!
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53 days and Uncle Sugar can kiss my 4th point of contact.....as long the retirement checks make to the right address. :cool: :p Chris
 
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