Sputnic, AKA Justin Yates...didn't hold up his end of the bargain

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I put my Mint Shivworks Disciple on the exchange a few weeks ago, and a fellow who goes by "Sputnic" emailed first. He offered me $235 instead of the trade, we got everything agreed upon, and I sent him the knife. After three weeks wait to hear whether he'd receieved the knife, I checked the tracking number on the certified package I'd sent and discovered that he'd had the knife for ten days. I tried to get in touch with him (PM and email) to find out about the money order he'd promised to send me, and got nowhere. Don't trade with this guy. He's mail-fraud-tastic. In retrospect, I should have seen this coming--there were red flags aplenty. The name on the address he asked me to ship to didn't contain his own first or last name, and he first belittled the trade I'd tried to do (I wanted an Emerson mini a-100 for the Disciple) --he tried to high-pressure me into trading for a knife I didn't want and then did the whole "You're in DC, man? I hear that's rough. You must be a tough guy, brother!" routine and bragged about his concealed carry permit.

More fool me.

But.

I'm not concerned about the money at this point. Through a certain amount of finagling, I have his home address as well as two of the other addresses he uses for scams like these. I have over twenty emails back and forth affirming his intent to buy the knife and his assertion that he had sent the money order and that he'd get back to me when he got the knife. That information and other information I'm not going into on a public forum is going to every interested police agency that will give me the time of day. Secret Service, Postal Inspector's office, Reno Police Department, et cetera. There are a few more, but I'm not checking my list right now. I don't care about the knife or the money at this point, although I expect to get one or the other back eventually. Stubborn, meanspirited bastard that I am, I am devoting one hour a day to the ultimate goal of losing him his carry permit and, with a little luck, his freedom.

One hour a day doesn't sound like much, but it adds up. I can have a serious conversation with a representative of a relevant police agency in an hour. I can fill out two paper forms and send them to the feds. I'm going to do my one hour a day for as long as it takes to get the justice system to squish this oxygen thief under the Vibram soles of their boots and lose him that permit. It's my new hobby.

So. If he wants to make right, that's cool. I'm starting this hobby Friday morning, so he has some time. But I don't see it happening.
 
I wish I had half your tenacity. Luckily my dealings on BF have been good so far, but I've been ripped off online before. I went through the BBB, but didn't get satisfaction. I wish you all the luck on your new hobby. Thieves deserve to get skewered.
 
I like your sense of purpose and apparent perseverance man- Just out of curiosity though-since it ended up being a sale- why the heck would you ever send him the blade without receiving funds first? I'm an honest person and hate liars and cheats- so I am with you all the way- but let this be a lesson, don't ever do that again bro. There is no reason in the world you should have sent that knife without first clearing funds. Just sux it happened. The funny thing-as an honest person- I have never asked-nor expected anyone whether it be on the exchange here or through a maker directly-to ever part with a blade to me before the money I have paid has cleared in their paypal/bank accnt etc. Just sad that this kinda stuff is daily around here and within the general blade scene it seems-and even I am also having problems now with 2 well known makers-so I guess it is true- TRUST NO1! All and all- I think your time and dedication will pay off! Somehow-someway! Why not post all the information here though for everyone to see and hopefully-just maybe-some people can assist wherever possible. GL regardless!
 
I'm old-school--or I was. I've been on BFC for ten years, and that's how it used to be done. As to the information:

Justin W Yates (there are four people named Justin Yates in Nevada. Only one has a previous address in Sparks, where I sent the knife.)

562 Smithridge Park
Reno NV
89502-5777

The address he gave me to send the knife to:

Kate C, address

Kate Cesar
700 Marian Way
Sparks NV 89431

He also uses a UPS store as a place to receive money/knives. Its address is:

301 Vista Blvd
Sparks, NV 89434

I'm expecting more information Thursday afternoon, including who "Kate Cesar" is, and I'll certainly post it here. If anyone has any information, please let me know. If any LEOs in NV don't mind telling me where in their departments I should send information and who I should address it to, again--please let me know.
 
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Hey AlecWire,

Do what you think is necessary, but don't put-up personal information on the internet, especially Kate C.'s She may be totally innocent and you are posting her name & addy.

You are after Sputnic/Justin Yates, not her.

You should remove that.
 
Kate C's address has been removed.

EDIT: Kate Cesar's address is:

Kate Cesar
700 Marian Way
Sparks NV 89431
 
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Alec, I left you a note in Community, but this is a postal fraud matter and as such, go directly to the postal inspector's office.

Those guys tend to be folks who REALLY wanted into the FBI and did not quite make the cut, which leaves them with something to prove and a muthering huge jurisdiction in which to prove it.

Ergo, they will not quit and will get their man, fairly universally.

Better, there's no statute of limitations on mail fraud. So they may line up this jagoff to be picked up along with 47 others on a day five years from now, when they need a headline, and they'll do it at work, instead of his home, so he won't make a scene for fear of being embarrassed (also not able to barricade himself effectively, etc)

So this is where I'd make my first call.

Justin, we just called you out. Get your ass in gear, send Alec his fund today. Hunting season is open in 3.5 hours and you're the quarry.
 
If you have a number for Kate drop her a dime. You'll find out quickly if she is a POS or an OK person stuck with a POS loser
 
Justin,

Just so that you're aware--I have contacted the Postal Inspector's Office regarding your failure to send payment for the Disciple I sent you. You have until I return the documents they are sending me regarding the sale to make arrangements to pay me (and I will be returning them the same day I receive them). After that it's out of my hands.
 
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I have been in a "trade deal" with Justin for about 3 weeks now. I had great comms before the trade and then they dropped off for a few days. My knife was deliverd to him on the 7th of May I hounded him for a few days trying to get verification that he actually had the knife and he finally got back to me. Although he was a little bit of a jerk in doing so. He was claiming he was a Paramedic or something and had been working for 72 hours straight. After a few emails of him telling me I didn't know what he was going through, we finally got to business. He stated he had sent his end of the trade to me, but didn't have a DC# because he sent it snail mail (which you can still get a DC# for, but I guess he didn't wanna spring for the .70 cents). All of these emails took place on the 8th and 9th of May. On the 11th, he offered to send my knife back because his knife still hadn't showed. Knowing that the USPS can be very slow sometimes, I said we should just wait until around the 17th to undo the deal OR he could send me a list of other knives he had to trade. I figured since he really liked it, I would attemp to let him keep it with another trade deal since he was a paramedic and might get some life saving use out of it.

I emailed him on the 17th, and about 5 times since, and have not heard back since. I know he didn't work 168 hours straight, and it's looking like he's just a liar and a thief. I would think if you were a paramedic, you'd show up in a search, but I didn't see anything about him when I did a quick google search.

I'll be filing a police report if I don't hear back from him in the next 48 hours.
 
Did he give you an Apt. number because from what I know, those are all apartments on that street. I drive that street several times a month. You can see a very clear frontal picture of the address using Google Satellite and dragging the little person in front of the tag on the satellite image as if you are standing right in front of the building too.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&s...no,+NV+89502&gl=us&ei=PjXcTbPPNsfWiALM_NkO&sa

562 Smithridge Park
Reno NV
89502-5777


I hate thieves.

If "Justin" were willing to meet me to hand over the knives he stole I am happy to see that they both get returned to you two on my nickel. He can meet me at a neutral place or the parking lot of my office.
 
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