Spyderco Collaborations

Thanks Sal for sharing the details of what current projects and obligations are. As consumers and enthusiasts, we are very quick at times to say something to the effect of:
"A collaboration with Mr. X and Spyderco would be great, let's see it!"
It's as if we can almost see it in our mind - a beautiful final design that is innovative, utilitarian, and unlike any other. However, we have none of the details as to what it would take in terms of financing, marketing, design, etc.
Still nice to sit and daydream a little.
Thanks,
RD
 
Hi Hunter,

Making old Bob Terzuola designs are the same for us as making a new model. All of the tooling is gone (we have more effective factory management now) so new tooling must be developed.

Hi Duke,

Why Infi? There are many steels on the market and many of them will perform as well or better depending on the area of performance needed. In blade steels, we are primarily concerned with 1) edge retension, 2) corrosion resistance and 3) toughness. Generally speaking we can get good results in 2 out of the 3. We haven't found many steels that can deliver high performance in all 3 areas, but it's a good pursuit, or as Red Devil says "dreaming".

Re Devil,

Dreaming is good. It is the tip of the spear of progress. but you also must remember that a goal without a date is just a dream. ;)

sal
 
Hey what about another collaboration with Massad Ayoob? Even a slightly different version of the Spyderco Ayoob C-60 would get me excited :cool:

Other than the Bob Lum Tanto folder I hear more sentiments for a re-intro of the Massad Ayoob C-60 than I do any of the other older tactical Spyders.

Actually I wouldn't mind seeing what other designs Mr. Ayoob may have to put on the table. But a C-60 with either a Carbon Fiber or G-10 handle would just make my year.

It's one design I never grow tired of. I still get compliments on it every time I carry it. It's also one of the Spyders that's just as well loved in Spyderedge as it is in plain edge. I bet I'm not alone with that one. :cool:
 
i wouldn't mind seeing a user submitted design contest. have people submit their own designs, including handle material and blade steel. the winner would have the knife named after them, or even some kind of monetary prize. i think you could get a lottt of interesting designs that way. i'm sure it would cost a decent amount of money to have you guys pick the winners, and then put it into final design stages and such. i bet youd also have to make sure that the designs submitted werent stealing designs from other people.
 
Joe,

Carpenter has a whole "flock" of new chemistry's that will be fun to play with. I'm not opposed to Vasco. I have an old Gerber folding hunter that used Vasco and I found the steel to very nice, and at the time superior.

The Tuff and Bison shared the samed dilemma, how to keep the large heavy blade closed and still use the Compression lock, which can be made strong enough to handle the weight? We believe we have a way developed and we'll see it in the newer designs with large blades.
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Sal, I copied the new steel charts from Carpenter. There are some fine steels there. Some new, some very high quality analogs to well established steels. Class leaders in their categories. Between your established relationships at foundries in the US, Europe, and Asia You should be able to source all kinds of really cool steels.

Please take my "mastiff model" in Vascowear as just what it is. A long running, tongue in cheek joke. Kind of an inside joke. One I've probably worn out in the last 5 years. I apologize if I have.

I've always been more than satisfied in your choice in steels, and more importantly the designs you chose to put them in.

Yes, I do like Vascowear. Do I like it more than CPM M4 at the hardness you ran the Bradley at? Not a chance, to be honest.

I do like it better than D2, 154cm, S30V, and even it's cousin 3V. It suits me better, but that's not saying it would anybody else.

I'm more than content with the line up you currently have, and the future models you have notified us were coming down the pipeline. ED. S.'s "Tuff" is particularly intriguing to me in fact. The "Bison" I'll know more aboutb in time.

The reason I have traditionally liked Vascowear is It's a very well balanced steel wear resistance and strength wise. Not quite as strong as 3V, but it takes a finer edge, holds it better, and has more wear resistance overall.

I really like thoise steels that have the Tungsten carbides in them. Especially when they are balanced. Without doubt a powder steel version would be a great D2 upgrade. It'll never be a S90V/ CTS 20CP replacement though, nor could it replace VG10, much less ZDP 189.

By the way, CTS-B75 really looks like a great sporting knife steel if the price and delivery issues that plagued BG42 become more manageable. Despite mostly being a carbon tool and alloy steel guy this steel was a real beauty.

Anyway, If you ever want a "mastiff" knife in your line up just remember it has to be a blue collar, tough, high performance 3.75 to 4.25 inch bladed knife that is stoutly made, but no frills like Carbon fibre. High alloy, preferably powder steel vascowear equivalent, unless you want to use something like M30, or M3 steel. :o

Thanks for Listening Sal. I'll back off a few months before I reset and restart with my "vascowear" campaign. :)

Regards, Joe L. / Raleigh
 
Sal Glesser said:
Interesting requests.

Brian,

I am not familiar with Dav Winch designs. We don't always get to see what makers are doing, espeically in foreign countries (foreign to us ;)). We would have to get one of his pieces and put them out to our customer base for feedback.

Thanx for the thread, it's a good dialogue.

sal
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Sal,

I am more than happy to send my little collection for you guys to look at as long as I get them back eventually............I suspect I have another one heading in my direction (due today?)

Regards,

BRIAN
 
Hi Brian,

Thanx much for the offer. We'd really need to communicate with the maker first before we could do anything like that. Sign disclosures, etc.

The next show we will show protos at is the Blade Magazine show in Early June. that really doesn't leave much time. I think I'd prefer to contact him and purchase a sample of the best model for our customers.

Does he have a web-site?

sal
 
some custom makers i really like (but i dont have knives from all of them):

todd begg
darrel ralph
brian tighe
joe caswell

it would also be interesting to see colabs with:

busse/swamprat/scrapyard
emerson (more than just the wave)
chris reeve
 
Sal Glesser said:
Hi Brian,

Thanx much for the offer. We'd really need to communicate with the maker first before we could do anything like that. Sign disclosures, etc.

The next show we will show protos at is the Blade Magazine show in Early June. that really doesn't leave much time. I think I'd prefer to contact him and purchase a sample of the best model for our customers.

Does he have a web-site?

sal
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Understood Sal, I'm not sure if he does or not, I know him from a mutual, private Australian knife forum we are members of...........I've asked the question.

Regards,

BRIAN
 
Jaabel said:
I would like to see some fixed blades with Tom Krein and Vox Knives.
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Tom Krein would be great in a collaboration for sturdy and collectable fixed blade utility/outdoors (3-4") knife. I would love seeing that.
 
3 3/4" -4" Terzuola. USA made with Micarta scales........

Yea.......... :D:thumbup:;)
 
A lot of good suggestions that may or may not happen, and I'm not sure where my suggestion will go either

Sal, how about a Balisong Collaboration with Michael Janich? I know Janich has made instructional videos in the past and has mastered the Balisong

It would be a very interesting and a good selling item, as the main player right now is Benchmade

Thanks for even reading this, thanks!
 
I heard Michael Janich has officially joined Spyderco. He is a very gifted instructor. I would also like to see a Balisong released by him and Spyderco.
 
dberry said:
I would also like to see a Balisong released by him and Spyderco.
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+1, a balisong by Spyderco will be awesome, but only (IMO) if it will have a more normal design and a nice fully functional blade, with good geometries for cutting and a good steel (like VG-10).
I have a Spyderfly, I like its originality but I prefer more normal balisongs and the 440C of the Spyderfly doesn't want to take a good edge.
It would be also nice to have a manual latch (if spring assisted, with a more sturdy spring that the fragile spring of the spyderfly) that works both in the open position both in the closed.
 
We spoke with Tom Krein and it was decided that we wouldn't know what model to make and we felt that the market would want to many models. Also it would hurt Tom's grinding business. So in the end, we decided that it would work best for Tom if we all just recommended him for regrinds. That way customers could get the grind they want on the model they want.

We more than likely won't get to new balisongs. With past issues, and a factory in Colorado, which is very strict. (We regularly speak with the DA about what we're making), we can only sell balisongs to military and law enforcement. That is not the market for balisongs.

Michael Janich did invent a new type of knife called a "Janisong" which has some of the features of a bali, but it is an erirely new concept. It would also have to be sold only to Military and lawenforcement, but it would be more practical for that market than a balisong.

(but then it wouldn't be a collaboration as Mike is now part of the Spyderco team so it would be a Spyderco design with Mikes logo on the blade like Eric's and mine).

sal
 
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