Spyderco Military linerlock

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unky_gumbi

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Does anyone have a good picture of the linerlock on a military? I have been reading about how it has a no fail linerlock, the tang actually has a lip so that the linerlock can't be released while the blade is under pressure. I am just curious about it is all and would like to see it, unfortunately there are no Spydie dealers here for me to take a look in person:(
 
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I've never heard that before.... can you describe this lip?

the militarys LL is what all other LL's hope to be, it really is the best I have seen but its still a mechanical object and like all things mechanical they can fail.
 
There is a good pic in chapter 11 of Bob Terzuola's book The Tactical Folding Knife, I think I seen you post you had it ?

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Sorry haven't got a scanner or I'd copy it here.

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"No fail" is pushing it a little, but it's well-engineered and a very nice concept. The knife comes out really slim, but still confidence-inspiring.
 
The new frame-lock Ti Military has the lip on the lock that goes over the blade tang.
The way the blade tang is made with metal extending underneath the liner-lock on the standard Military model, is used in many liner-locks. I've seen it on numerous brands.
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knifenut1013 said:
I've never heard that before.... can you describe this lip?

the militarys LL is what all other LL's hope to be, it really is the best I have seen but its still a mechanical object and like all things mechanical they can fail.
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If you look at most other liner locks you can see that the tang is curved or angled, but the tangs on the "Fail Save" ( I used the wrong term::o) is offset so that there is a bit of a lip that the lock would catch on and become almost impossible to release if there was pressure on the spine. You can see it well in Zen's pictures, more clearly on the foliage green one.

pagey1973 said:
There is a good pic in chapter 11 of Bob Terzuola's book The Tactical Folding Knife, I think I seen you post you had it ?

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Sorry haven't got a scanner or I'd copy it here.

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Yes I have the book but there are only line drawings of it. I wanted to see what it looks like in real life because line drawings are usually exaggerated to get the point across.

Thanks everyone those were some great pictures.
 
wongKI said:
"No fail" is pushing it a little, but it's well-engineered and a very nice concept. The knife comes out really slim, but still confidence-inspiring.
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I used the wrong term, its fail safe. It was 4:30 in the morning when I posted that. It explains why the mili has one of the most respected liner locks on a production knife though
 
jill jackson said:
The new frame-lock Ti Military has the lip on the lock that goes over the blade tang.
The way the blade tang is made with metal extending underneath the liner-lock on the standard Military model, is used in many liner-locks. I've seen it on numerous brands.
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So because the frame is not allowed to move over and stops at the lip on this model.Would it develop play over time due to it not being able to self adjust over time?
 
frontline29 said:
So because the frame is not allowed to move over and stops at the lip on this model.Would it develop play over time due to it not being able to self adjust over time?
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The lip of the lock is over the top of the blade tang. The frame-lock face can move over as it wears in, the same way any liner or frame lock will.
 
Although it is harder to see, the Sage I also has the offset arc lockface like the Military. ;)
 
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The jimping on the bg 42 version appears(at least in your pics) to be a bit more aggressive than the s30v version. Does it affect comfort at all? I've been thinking about picking up the bg 42 version in the next few weeks.
 
a2d2 said:
The jimping on the bg 42 version appears(at least in your pics) to be a bit more aggressive than the s30v version. Does it affect comfort at all? I've been thinking about picking up the bg 42 version in the next few weeks.
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The picture is NOT a photo illusion. Everyone is different but it wouldn't normally affect comfort.
 
unky_gumbi said:
Does anyone have a good picture of the linerlock on a military? I have been reading about how it has a no fail linerlock, the tang actually has a lip so that the linerlock can't be released while the blade is under pressure. I am just curious about it is all and would like to see it, unfortunately there are no Spydie dealers here for me to take a look in person:(
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:o I was probably one of the people praising the wazoo out of the Mili's liner lock. "no fail" is a gross exaggeration, hopefully I never used those words exactly.
Extremely reliable it is. Not many knives like it.
 
Don't get me wrong on this I dig my knife and EDC it more than most of my others, but on my millitary I can push down on the spine a get about 1/16th of an inch play as it slides down the ramp on the blade. Anybody else have this and is this a safety factor.
 
sensei78 said:
Don't get me wrong on this I dig my knife and EDC it more than most of my others, but on my millitary I can push down on the spine a get about 1/16th of an inch play as it slides down the ramp on the blade. Anybody else have this and is this a safety factor.
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I just tried. My knife won’t budge. Just how strong are you?
 
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