Spyderco Moran

Mike,
I knew there must be a little "*****" in you.
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Thanks Gene,

but you got it exactly backwards
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There is a little of me in "*****"
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Best Regards,
Mike Turber
 
Folks,
Spark has gratiously offered to assist me in getting some pictures of those great Edge-Works sheaths I had made here for your viewing pleasure. As I post this only minutes after sending him the zip file, please check the date-time of my post and give Spark some time to hook them up! Thanks!

Here's a view of the military sheath from the front side

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The back of the military sheath with the web strap laced through the third layer of kydex and terminating on both ends with a fastex double D buckle. Note that the top portion of the webbing allows a conventional vertical belt carry:

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Here the military sheath is shown worn horizontally in the small of the back by lacing the pants belt through both sheath buckles:

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Sorry, no pix of the rig on an alice pack or using the supplied webbing and fasteners for over the shoulder and other carry positions.


Here's the slip sheath employing its lanyard for an inbetween the belt and pants carry:

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And a shot of the Spydie Moran being withdrawn with a reverse grip from the slip sheath worn in the pocket:

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These are great products and at prices that are hard to beat!!!!! You can also see two additional shots at http://209.132.70.61/moran.htm.
If you do opt for either of these sheaths for your Moran, tell Scott I said hello!

-=[Bob]=-


Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Spyderco or Edge-Works and am receiving no compensation of any kind for my comments. I simply believe these products to be of outstanding quality and value; and am sharing these views with you here.




[This message has been edited by bald1 (edited 10-13-98).]
 
Bob,
Thank's for all your work. A great job! Thank's also to Spark. Gonna' sell some sheaths through this. I still say you call it, "The Bald Eagle", (okay, okay, at least call it "The Eagle", because it "soars" with possible carry options). Also, who is the gent in the pictures? I know it's not you, or Frank, or me. We've got smaller waistlines than that.
 
Gene, I believe it's HM2 Frank Piper who is a Spec Op type still on active duty. He helped with the design and was responsible for the extra webbing and fasteners supplied (not illustrated) with the military sheath.

-=[Bob]=-
 
The gent in the photos is Robert Foster. He is the Production Manager at Edge-Works and a retired Marine 1st Sgt. He served in the Corps better than 20 years, a combat vet the whole works. His experience has much to do with the functional nature of our products.
Also, he has a particular knack in getting the most out of the EW team … I gota go before he catches me playing on the forums during working hours again … I hate doing all those push ups out in Foster's sand box.


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Scott,

I appreciate the clarification....I guessed Piper because he was used in many of the photos on your web site albeit dressed in BDUs and not civies!

Photos cleaned up well didn't they?

-=[Bob]=-
 
Bob,
You did a great job with the photos. I do usually use Frank in most of our pictures so your guess was completely logical. However, he was at his day job (USN / USMC) when I had the chance to snap shots of your sheaths. I am fortunate to have several outstanding individuals associated with my business. Thanks much for your efforts.

 
Wow! I'm going to have to get one of these with the military kydex sheath.

That Busse sheath from Edge Works is amazing!
 
Been trying another alternative carry with the slip sheath...believe it or not, despite the little bulbuous handle on the Spydie Moran, the whole setup makes for a quite passable neck knife rig. Wore it all day today that way...it works fine and stays laying flat thanks to the sheath design.

I'm not much for neck knives but I just wanted to satisfy my curiosity. I continue to be amazed at this set up, especially for the money involved...around $100 or so delivered! It ought to go up as DEAL OF THE YEAR!!!!
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-=[Bob]=-

[This message has been edited by bald1 (edited 10-14-98).]
 
All this talk about the Moran (not to mention the great pictures) has got me salivating worse than one of Pavlov's dogs, I've got to have this knife. One thing bothers me though, since I believe it has a convex "Moran" edge, how to sharpen it without destroying the original edge? Has anyone who has one sharpened it and what method did you use?

Cheers,
Clay
 
Clay,

If you're the type that touches the blade up after every use say with a Spyderco 1200 grit xtra fine 8" bench stone and use good technique, it'll take a very long time to alter the convex edge.

I did that for a quite a while, then after some serious use had to go to my Edge-Pro Apex-1...yeah, a slight silly mini-millimeter , a little bigger than the wire edge you'd create, is now flattened on each side. No biggie in my book. It's like having a Cold Steel Carbon-V Trailmaster...it too has a Moran or more commonly termed "rolled edge". I long ago altered mine to accommodate my sharpeners and technique...again no biggie. Still shaves great
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as does the Moran!

The bottom line is that unless one owns a belt grinder to run a slack ultra fine belt at slow speeds or a 10" buffer with a feathering sandpaper wheel, you simply can not sharpen a rolled edge without re-profiling it.

My view is that ultimately re-profiling is an insignificant consideration given the ergonomics, steel, and price for the Moran. It really doesn't impact functionality at all.

Yours is a valid question and since, what June(?) when I first posted my original query to Dexter about this knife on anotherforum.com (before becoming a "convert" by buying several
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) you're the only one to raise this issue. I suspect most folks either missed that feature of the knife or didn't understand the implications. Great question!!!!

-=[Bob]=-

[This message has been edited by bald1 (edited 10-14-98).]
 
Good morning Bob,

Don't forum people sleep at all....are you just getting up or haven't you been to bed yet? It's 9p.m. here and I didn't expect to see a reply till tomorrow. Your answer confirmed my suspicion, that eventually you will loose the rolled edge but, what the heck, it still seems a great knife, especially at the current price. I thought I read that Spyderco were discontinuing them, if so the interest created here might cause them to reconsider. In any case I should e-mail an order pronto in case they disappear.

Thanks for your help.
Clay
 
Clay,

In all honesty I have been up all night... a touch of insomnia. And this posting generates a notice anytime someone posts to it, so its rather easy to stay on top of it.

All I've heard is that Spyderco doesn't intend to produce another fixed blade as they feel the Moran is inconsistent with their image. There is supposed to be a good supply in their warehouses too, but who knows. They cut their MSRP from $250+ to the now $134.95 which is much more reasonable. Perhaps that was their first move to discontinuance, but as I said in my review...the old price guaranteed poor sales... now with the properly adjusted one perhaps demand will take off keeping it in their line up and maybe even causing them to rethink their notions towards fixed blades.

-=[Bob]=-
 
Frog,

In this thread you'll find two keys to contacting Edge-Works. First at the end of the pictures I also give a URL for more...that's on Edge-Work's Home Page. Second, Scott Evans is the head of Edge-Works.. click on the icon next to his name to get his e-mail address.

-=[Bob]=-
 
Hello there,

I will like to know where VG-10 comes from ?
I have seen Swedish Amry Knives in VG-10.

But where that steel comes frome?
Aeronautical?

The edge retention of my Spydi Moran is fantastic and a mirror finish of that quality is really rare.

Also I would like to know more about the primary design of the Featherweight.
"Claimed" purposes, Bill Moran's originals...

JM
 
Nemo,

I really wish I could help answer your questions but I'm afraid I have no knowledge here.

You might consider asking in Dexter's Review forum about the VG-10 and design background. If anyone knows the later it'd probably be Dex.
Any number of the knifemakers plus some of the more technically oriented may be able to jump in about the steel too. Might want to post a query in Darrel's area for that.

Sorry!
-=[Bob]=-
 
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