Spyderco Ti Military vs CRK : Opinions and Thoughts

Not only does the Mili force tip down carry, due to the shape, I really only feel it carries well on the left side. I hate sliding my hand in my pocket against the spine of a blade - IMHO the blade belongs against the back of the pants pocket. I truly wish Sal would let the user choose his/her preference (ala Endura). Sure, I'd be happy with one position only if it was the right one (like a CRK). ;)
 
Wolverine666 said:
Really. Please explain.
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Don't get me wrong, as I do love Spyderco knives. But, they can not beat the tight tolerances of CRK, nor can Spyderco beat out CRK's fit & finish. Both of these are the reasons that I said CRK is head & shoulders above Spyderco.
 
T.K.C. said:
Don't get me wrong, as I do love Spyderco knives. But, they can not beat the tight tolerances of CRK, nor can Spyderco beat out CRK's fit & finish. Both of these are the reasons that I said CRK is head & shoulders above Spyderco.
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Gotcha. I wasn't challenging your opinion. I was just curious what your reasons were. I'm really just trying to talk myself out of buying an Inkosi. But I think I'll just have to buy one to satisfy my curiosity.
 
T.K.C. said:
Don't get me wrong, as I do love Spyderco knives. But, they can not beat the tight tolerances of CRK, nor can Spyderco beat out CRK's fit & finish. Both of these are the reasons that I said CRK is head & shoulders above Spyderco.
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I think it depends on the models you're talking about. The Slysz models I've owned were very close in terms of tolerances and F&F to any of the CRKs I've owned over the years. In fact, I'd consider the Techno to be a better true EDC than a Small Sebenza in many ways( more stout, better edge retention, far better price point), and is certainly on the same page in terms of F&F.

I can't comment on the Military, as I've only ever handled one, but there ARE Spydercos that can be short-listed with CRKs, easily on the same page with other top tier production knives as well.

You simply cannot make blanket statements how CRK is " head and shoulders" above Spyderco anymore. It's simply not true.

This is coming from a guy who's been carrying a CRK far more than any other company for over a decade now. In fact, I've been carrying a CRK folder every day now closing in on a year, so I'm definitely a fan. Still, I am more than willing to acknowledge Spyderco has been putting out some amazing stuff over the past few years, punching above its weight class[emoji106].


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I would take the sebenza. The Millie has to fragile of a tip IMO but some might prefer that. Really if you want a pointy tip then the milli if you want slightly more robust tip sebenza. Again just my opinion.
 
Wolverine666 said:
Taking everything into consideration (design , materials , price , fit & finish , performance and of course your personal preference) , how do you feel the Ti Military stacks up to the Sebenza , Inkosi and Umnumzaan ?
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No strong feelings here for one over the other. Both are very fine knives. If I could only EDC one I would choose my CRK Zaan over my Ti Millie. The reason is that the point of the Millie is not as stout as the one on the Zaan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtbJYns7ehk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_gxzwSXd8U

Both are some of the best.

I EDC a Spyderco Gayle Bradley ver. 1 though because it is better for my work.
 
I like both the Sebenza and the Military design.. For cutting, slicing and chores that I use a knife for the Military is far better for actual use that a Sebenza for me. The Sebenzas however is all sorts of cool and is a great EDC knife. But for cutting AND also as self defense I would choose the Miltary over the Senbenza.
 
Good question.
The Military is a very cool knife.
Between a Ti and a G-10 handle version I take the G-10.
This offers the better price-performance-ratio to me.
Weight is also a consideration here.
For my hand size and my daily needs the handle of the Military is too large.
That's why I got a PM2.

The Sebenza is a knife I enjoy to own and use.
 
From what I've read , it seems the CRK's are built with more precision concerning , tolerances , blade geometry , hardware , etc. But how much more ? And is it enough to A) Notice. And B) Justify the higher price ? This is where the personal preference comes in I guess.

The Sebenzas I have are solid and flawless. That alone , to me , makes them worth the extra money (even though I find the Sebenza rather boring aesthetically). So I imagine the Inkosi and newer pivot style Umnumzaan are equally as solid and flawless.

But one thing that I don't feel worth the extra cash is the addition of inlays. An extra $100 for inlays on the Inkosi makes me hesitate. So maybe the plain Ti Inkosi is better suited for me (or an Umnumzaan). I really like the blade shape of the Umnum. And at $425 it seems like a great deal. And although people have pointed out how they dislike the thin tip of the Military , I have to say that I LOVE it. The blade shape of the Military is just so wicked. One of my favorites.
 
Here we go> BOTH are excellent folder designs. Choose one or get both.
rolf
 
Isn't the tip of Sebenza also very thin? I am not sure how stronger it is than the tip of Military.
 
Lycosa said:
Here we go> BOTH are excellent folder designs. Choose one or get both.
rolf
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No , here YOU go.

I already have a few Ti Militaries. Love them. And I'm interested in discussing the finer details of both the Mil and CRK offerings.
 
Wolverine666 said:
No , here YOU go.

I already have a few Ti Militaries. Love them. And I'm interested in discussing the finer details of both the Mil and CRK offerings.
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But after the discussion there will be no real winner. I don't like tip down and I don't like Spyderco's disassembly policy that make a Millie at the dollars wanted completely out of the question even if it was a better knife. When you get above $200 you better be selling me something other than a really great toaster and toasters are what Spyderco sells.
 
CRK and Spyderco are my fav. manufacturers and the Seb 21 and Millie are my two fav. models. When comparing a Ti Millie to a G10 one, Ti only wins on look and feel (and then, only if that floats your boat). A Ti Millie with the CQI changes may be a different story since the fasteners have all been beefed up.
All things considered, I don't believe there is a clear winner here. The Millie is almost as well made and almost as tough but much cheaper. The Sebenza is, IMO, a clear winner, but over 2X the price. Of course, you could always buy three Enduras and three Delicas instead, all six indifferent colors, and arrange them in a bowl like flowers. I always, and will always say, if someone is interested in trying a Sebenza they need to get one in their hands and go do some real chores with it.


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Ah, finer details? OK. Won't the details be in what you like, wolverine?
When I got my first Seb, I said this be the last folder I'll ever buy. I said the same thing when I got my first CQC7.
We're knuts!
Good luck, buddy!
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Try sending the Mili back in for spa service, free at that (you do have to pay postage for CRK's complimentary spa service that brings you Sebbie/Umnumzaan/Inkosi back to as-new condition) Or asking for disassembly tools. There is a very sound set of reasons the CRK costs more than the Spyderco. Don't misunderstand me, the Military is a fine model if you aren't bothered by "no disassembly policy" and tip down carry - but a Reeve it is not. The Spydie is essentially an expendable tool, whereas the CRK is a maintainable tool, with a company dedicated to keep it functioning at like-new levels.
 
Lycosa said:
Ah, finer details? OK. Won't the details be in what you like, wolverine?
When I got my first Seb, I said this be the last folder I'll ever buy. I said the same thing when I got my first CQC7.
We're knuts!
Good luck, buddy!
rolf
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Knuts is right.

I'm like a dog chasing cars. Then I realize that it's not the cars I like. It's the chase.
 
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