Spyderco Tuff: 5 months use.

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I picked up my Spyderco Tuff in August 2012. It has seen regular use since then.

My use for a heavy duty folder, which this certainly is, range from light EDC tasks to processing deer or clearing styles or scrub. Typically, I use a folder over a fixed blade if discretion and pocketability are required. Predominately this applies to clearing footpaths, styles and cycle tracks. A Rajah I performs these tasks superbly, but pushes the definition of "pocketable" to its limit!

I have intentionally used the Tuff for tasks more appropriate for a fixed blade, for the purpose of evaluation. However, I haven't batonned or pryed with it (not heavily, anyway.) No "destruction testing" has been performed.

Although the factory edge was satisfactory in use, when I came to sharpen it, I found the blade was so thick behind the edge near the tip that the 40deg stones on the Sharpmaker weren't even hitting the edge. I have fixed blades in CPM-3V and I knew that a folder didn't need that thickness in my hands. Accordingly, I carefully thinned the blade and reprofiled the edge. Initially a pure convex edge, later a 40deg microbevel:

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Much has been said about the stiffness of the lock and the sharpness of the spydie hole. Personally, neither of these bothered me. I found the knife was OK to deploy and close, both with and without gloves:

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Ergonomics:

Some users have found the offset between the choil and thumb-ramp uncomfortable. I find the knife lends itself to three primary grips (so long as a suitable lanyard knot is used...)

Forward grip: the choil works best with a thumb on the spine of the blade, rather than the thumb ramp:
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Power grip: the thumb ramp is actually better positioned for this grip, if you want some extra feel or control in a power grip:
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Reach grip: I have a chunky lanyard knot which facilitates this grip, which I use with caution for lopping soft/green vegetation (brambles etc.) at full stretch:
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Usage:


So, during the summer and autumn months, the knife has been used primarily on foliage related tasks:

Clearing overgrown styles:
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The odd bushcrafty task:
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This is at the thickest end of the spectrum of media cut:
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More typical substrate:
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One tough test was 2 days solid hacking, clearing the garden and land of a house that was somewhat neglected; This is the spoil!

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Young and old were pressed into service:

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The stiffest test was hacking through an enormous patch of brambles that had grown up from bricks and through discarded metal grilles:

Cut a path to get into the brambles:
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Then set to work at the base of the stems, trying to avoid the bricks and metal grilles:
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Inevitably, the edge clipped some metal and brick. This was the only visible damage:

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These tasks also generate plenty of body heat, this pic demonstrates condensed sweat on the blade. No corrosion issues with minimal care so far:

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Although the knife is by no means a carver, I did use it for most of the roughing out and shaping of a ladle. This is a good test for hot-spots. Folders typically don't do well in this area (which is why I would normally use an axe, saw and fixed-blade). The Tuff did not disgrace itself, being comparable to most folders with squarish edges.

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Continued in Part 2…
 
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Spyderco Tuff Review Part 2:

WARNING: the hidden pics show dead animal/gore.

EDIT: Apologies -hide tags not supported. Dont follow the links if squeamish!


Hunting:

I always carry a folder as well as a fixed-blade when hunting. For testing purposes, I used the Tuff for all the cutting duties:

Rabbits: Works fine but is more than enough blade!
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Foxes (A friend wanted the tails):
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Deer:

Before processing this deer, the blade was shaving sharp:
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Will the fuller act as a blood groove for the letting?
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Who knows?! Blade goes in, blood comes out!



One-handed gralloch; this knife can do delicate abdo-entry, too:
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During the unzipping, the fuller acts rather nicely as an aid to grip:
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The knife got pretty grubby but no problems with grip and it cleaned up with no difficulty (open-back construction helped.)
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/xavierdoc/Spyderco Tuff/DSC03894_zps5e72ddfc.jpg


Skinning and butchering:
The blade profile works well for skinning:
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The robust tip shrugs-off the de-legging and de-heading:
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The blade profile was never going to be a world-beater for butchery, but it performed OK:
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Summary:

The fit and finish of this Taichung-made knife is superb. The lock hasn't shifted at all, there is no suggestion of blade play. The blade is perfectly-centered.

Appearance is an individual matter. I don't care what it looks like so long as it gets the job done. This knife gets the job done. Grip is fine. I'm not sure about the dimples.

It is heavy; I do not mind weighty knives but others may find this too much for pocket carry. I find it completely unnoticeable clipped in a pocket.

Sharpening has been straightforward on japanese waterstones, Sharpmaker, leather-backed micromesh (for convex). Edge-holding is more than adequate for my purposes (I took a video of paper slicing after full deer processing which revealed a good working edge was retained, albeit not hair-popping. I have so far failed to upload the vid to youtube.)

EDIT: trying to embed video: LINK

Corrosion: I have always cleaned the blade after coming in from shooting. With similar treatment Super Blue and K294, patination/staining has already started but the CPM3V remains as shiny as day 1, so far.

Verdict:

If you launch a knife with the name "Tuff", it is akin to wandering up to the nut-job in the pub, spilling his pint and saying "come an have a go if you think you're hard enough!" To a certain type of person, you are inviting attack.

So is the Tuff all mouth and no trousers? Can it walk the walk?

I say "yes". Emphatically. It feels as solid as a Shing Dreadnought, which is high praise indeed. It is not as slick or light as a Sebenza, and won't slice as well, but I have no qualms about leaning on it.

There have been some reports of lock failure since the Tuff was released, although I don't think any of those knives were ever returned to Spyderco for analysis, so the cause may be user error or modification of the stiff lock.

I had one episode where I inadvertantly disengaged the lock: this was because I was exerting an outwards force on the lock-bar while trying to release the bound blade in a very unusual cutting position (wrist bent to get under an obstructing grille).

The problem (for want of a better word) is that the knife inspires confidence and encourages you to lay into it, using it more and more like a heavy fixed blade. This is what caused the lock release when I was using it- I know because I replicated the circumstance immediately, yet could not provoke the lock to "fail" through other means; closure relied on me twisting on the lockbar while pulling sideways (ie. releasing the lock.)

My final thoughts:

Sometimes you bond with a knife immediately: the Spyderco Gayle Bradley (Mk1) is a personal example of this.
Sometimes you bond with a knife after a period of use: the Spyderco Manix 2 M4 fits in this category for me.

The Tuff, was an expensive knife so although I did feel that immediate bond, I also felt it "owed" me something. Luckily it did not fail to deliver and is one of my most carried and used knives. It is quirky, but not at the expense of function (unlike the Captain, which I find quirky but compromised.)

Am I happy with the knife: Yes

Would I buy one again: Yes

Would I recommend it? Yes, IF you need a more discrete option than a fixed blade or you need a back up (or if you just like overbuilt folders.)
 
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Excellent review.One of the best I've ever seen honestly.Well done.:thumbup:
 
Very well done and a great read. Also, that little guy looks none too pleased in the one pic.:)
 
Very good review, thanks for posting it. Hadn't given the Tuff much thought until now.. I really like that oversized pivot
 
Nice review, thanks for posting. As far as corrosion goes, CPM 3V is pretty resistant. I have compared it in mundane use around the camp, kitchen, hiking...and Super Blue stains readily. Even my ZDP189 stains more easily than 3V. I'd say 3V is darn near an ideal blade steel (for me anyway) as far as toughness, edge retention, edge keen-ness with adequate corrosion resistance. Although the Tuff is a bit big for my tastes, I applaud the design and it looks like a monster of a folder.
 
I wish more reviews were like this one. Talk about showing a knife in use! I'd be hard-pressed to think of a task you didn't try.
Before now, I'd thought of the Tuff as being all bling, with little practical use. Now I see how wrong I was.
 
XD, I appreciate you actually using this thing for a good while before you told us what you thought about about it. That makes all the difference.
 
^ what powernoodle said. Honestly, brought this knife twice and sold it twice. I think im going to buy it a third time. Just wish I had more pockets.

Excellent review though sir. A+
 
So what's the point in that groove along the knife, the "fuller" as [I think] you called it?

The "fuller" has the following effects:

1. Cosmetic
2. Reduces weight without compromising torsional rigidity (swords?- someone help me out!)
3. Theoretically can act as a blood groove
4. Increases production cost and complexity
5. Gives an additional grip option for opening the knife
6. Gives an additional grip option for opening deer (see above in hunting pics)

Very good review sir!
Please tell though, what are those
Mini sheep beside the knife om the fence? :p

They ship with the Tuff: it eats one per day!
 
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