Spyderco?

Spyderco was one of the best, most modern, and well made knives on the market 25 years ago when I first discovered them. Those knives are in perfect shape 25 years later...perfect. You must be thinking of some other brand than Spyderco as they have never been anything but high end, both in price and quality. That'd be the key for me, they've never been cheap so I don't know how one would think they were ever "low end".
 
Ken44 said:
Frost! Really??? Are you serious:confused::p

NEVER, NEVER been anything even remotely close to a frost in any regard.

I bought my first Endura in the early 80's, and it was made great then, and is still going strong. I've put it through hell, and it looks like it, but just as smooth and tight as the day I got it.

Spyderco's have been very well made from the very start. Have no idea where you got your info.
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Ken, I have a tiny bit of bad news. The Endura wasn't introduced until 1990.

I got my first Delica in 1995, and frankly, it didn't really impress me. It was a good knife, much better than anything I have seen from Frost, but it wasn't all that great. It certainly didn't live up to the bragging I had heard from others about their Spyderco knives. Ten years later, my girlfriend's father gave me an article from some newspaper about VG-10 steel, and I gave Spyderco another try. I have over a hundred of them now.
 
I like the looks of a couple models they have, but they, in the past, where known as lowend knives. I owned one back then and quickly replaced it.
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No, Spyderco knives have never been known as "low end" knives.
 
Alann45 said:
I've heard H-1 is rather soft tends to scratch or show surface scratches more than other steels. Has that been your experience?
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Yes, it does scratch quite easily. Mind you, not the cutting edge, but the sides and the primary edge. If you look at the RC rating I quoted, you can see why.
 
Kaizen1 said:
It's also possible that you may have had a bad experience with one of their folders in the distant past and then wrote them off as "low end knives." Every company that produces as many knives as Spyderco puts out some percentage of defective knives. If that's the case, I'd say it seems more reasonable to me to rely on the statistics rather than personal experience.
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More than likely it was an experience with one of the $3-4 dollar knockoffs you see at the checkout counter at gas stations and dollar stores. I resisted Glock when they first came out and did the same with Spyderco. I realized how wrong I was after buying one of each and the rest is history - I now own 7 Glock pistols and over 40 Spydercos. :D

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Guys. You must know by now I like to rag on Spyderco fanbois at least as much as the next guy. But this thread is silly even for you guys.
The OP is a troll. Plain and simple. Now I understand you all like to talk about your knives and your favorite brand, but you're all dancing to this idiot's tune.

Spyderco was always a high-quality brand, and anyone who says different is a liar, a troll or just deluded.

I can't believe you all let yourselves be sucked into this. :cool:
 
Phil

It's the internet man...not the UN. What should we be doing with it? My favorite knive brand is probably ESEE, or the Moras, Roselli, Helle, and yes Spyderco too. I own only 4 or 5 Spydercos, as Many ESEEs and Rosellis and I stopped counting Moras.

At least the OP acknowledges that today Spyderco is a top brand. Taken no farther than that, he'd be correct. I would tend to suspect a troll for complete falsehoods...but what do I know...it's the internet!
 
HoosierQ said:
Phil

It's the internet man...not the UN. What should we be doing with it? My favorite knive brand is probably ESEE, or the Moras, Roselli, Helle, and yes Spyderco too. I own only 4 or 5 Spydercos, as Many ESEEs and Rosellis and I stopped counting Moras.

At least the OP acknowledges that today Spyderco is a top brand. Taken no farther than that, he'd be correct. I would tend to suspect a troll for complete falsehoods...but what do I know...it's the internet!
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But what a perfect excuse to talk about how great Spyderco is. How can we resist?
 
yablanowitz said:
Ken, I have a tiny bit of bad news. The Endura wasn't introduced until 1990.

I got my first Delica in 1995, and frankly, it didn't really impress me. It was a good knife, much better than anything I have seen from Frost, but it wasn't all that great. It certainly didn't live up to the bragging I had heard from others about their Spyderco knives. Ten years later, my girlfriend's father gave me an article from some newspaper about VG-10 steel, and I gave Spyderco another try. I have over a hundred of them now.
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I got my first Delica around 95-96 and you're right, I didn't think much of it.
It was OK but nothing spectacular. IIRC, the Delica was around $15-18 at the time.
A little later I tried out an SS Endura and a Military (ATS-34 was the craze then) and was much more impressed.
 
Looks like they discontinued most of their fixed blades, anyone know why?

I did hop on the Spydie fourm to see what I could learn. There is an interesting thread about H1 on there. Says it has a RHc of 68! Claim the blade work hardens by sharpening, and edge retention is somewhere between AUS6 and AUS8. Pretty crazy.

I'm back to thinking I need to see what H1 is all about. Seems funny it is that hard but won't hold an edge very well.

Anyone here have one of the fixed blade salts? First impression of this blade?

...and the "OP" doesn't hang out under bridges. He is on the Up and Up.
 
...Criticizing a knife because it was made in Japan is a bit like criticizing chocolate because it was made in Switzerland, except worse. What do they have ~ 800 years of generational history making edged weapons? We're not all buying hand-forged Samurai swords but the conversion to mass production and quality control seems to have gone pretty smoothly at this point.
 
cultivateitnow said:
Looks like they discontinued most of their fixed blades, anyone know why?

I did hop on the Spydie fourm to see what I could learn. There is an interesting thread about H1 on there. Says it has a RHc of 68! Claim the blade work hardens by sharpening, and edge retention is somewhere between AUS6 and AUS8. Pretty crazy.

I'm back to thinking I need to see what H1 is all about. Seems funny it is that hard but won't hold an edge very well.

Anyone here have one of the fixed blade salts? First impression of this blade?

...and the "OP" doesn't hang out under bridges. He is on the Up and Up.
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Spyderco is always discontinuing models to make room for new ones. Because there are so fewer fixed blades it is more noticeable when they go. Steel hardness is only part of the equation for edge retention. The other part is the wear resistance of the steel.
 
Hi Cultivateitnow,

We've been called a lot of things from "Fugly" to "crazy", but never low quality, especially in the steel area.

Fixed blades have always been sporadic for us. We've never done really well with them and we've tried some really different designs ov er the years. We bring out different models periodically.

Our "basic" steels are VG-10 (Takefu), CPM-S30V (Crucible) and ZDP-189 (Hitachi). We also offer a variety of steels from different foundries, but in lesser amounts. We'll be using more Carpenter steels in our basic models in the future.

H1 is an interesting material. Different from "normal" steel, but excellent in corrosion resistance.

sal
 
remembering back to the 1980's, I do know that the Spyderco blade shapes really bothered a lot of the old-timer purists, especially when all you had were slippies, SAKs and Buck Knives to compare them with.

I don't believe that quality was ever an issue, just distrust with anything new: "A knife with a HOLE in it?"
 
Jesse B. said:
...Criticizing a knife because it was made in Japan is a bit like criticizing chocolate because it was made in Switzerland, except worse. What do they have ~ 800 years of generational history making edged weapons? We're not all buying hand-forged Samurai swords but the conversion to mass production and quality control seems to have gone pretty smoothly at this point.
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You think no one made knives in Japan before 1200?
 
yablanowitz said:
Ken, I have a tiny bit of bad news. The Endura wasn't introduced until 1990.
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Man I could have swore I got that thing before I got married in 85. Must of been in 1990 when I had surgery down at Emory. Picked it up at an REI down in Atlanta, and It was the first time I had seen a Spyderco in person. It was so differant and fast to open that I had to have one.

I used it a alot for a few years, and still often use it as a fishing knife.
Mine was made very well. It opens smoother than any spyderco I've ever had . It does have the smaller pivot pin, but its still tight. The pocket clip has pulled out just a bit, but I'm kinda supprised it hasn't broke.
The G2 steel doesn't hold an edge like the newer steels spyderco use's, but its still a decent steel.
 
philwar said:
I can't believe you all let yourselves be sucked into this. :cool:
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I got "sucked into this" along with Sal, so I feel in pretty good company. :D

CWL said:
...distrust with anything new: "A knife with a HOLE in it?"
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I can remember that. Did take a little to get use to, then the "light went on".

Vicarious Reality said:
You think no one made knives in Japan before 1200?
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Yes, but hardly any were imported to the US. :rolleyes:

Ken44 said:
Man I could have swore I got that thing before I got married in 85.
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Your brain turns off long-term memory upon marriage. Anything important that needs remembering your wife will tell you about...often.
 
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