STELLITE 6K

The Talonite (r) chef's knife was used for disjointing chicken and ducks, and for preparing lobster. Not just for cutting soft stuff. Walt
 
Tom,
Perhaps if you can provide more information than the plethora of information Kit and Rob have provided.
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Tom,
Perhaps if you can provide more information than the plethora of information Kit and Rob have provided.
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I find that most of the wear on a kitchen knife comes from the cutting board!!
I will be recieving my first Stellite in a few days. I work with a different Stellite formula at work, FUN FUN FUN
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It's used in high wear areas in BIG citrus processing equipment. I cant WAIT to make a knife out of Stellite that is supposed to be even tougher!!!!
So far I've been very pleased with the performance of Talonite. I'm looking forward to comparing the materials in both using AND making.
Neil
PS: HI WALT!! HI ZVI !!!!!!


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Walt, yes, however consider the knives that the Chef's are using as baselines and consider further how those blades would be judged here. I know a couple of chefs and they don't have high end custom knives. Everyone of my blades that I have shown to them was met with rave reviews - some on blade that I felt were substandard - but then again my standards are far above Henckels (Wilson, Boye, Schott, Busse etc. ) :

The Talonite (r) chef's knife was used for disjointing chicken and ducks, and for preparing lobster. Not just for cutting soft stuff.

Assuming you know how to and where to cut, disjointing small (and large) game does not produce significant stress on the edge of a knife. As for lobster, if they just split the tails and back, that is not hard either. Again, assuming they know what to do and the cuts are straight and forceful. If they cut/chopped up the claws (never seen that done), it would be fairly impressive.

Gator :

I suspect Talonite won't perform as well as high end steel o hard materials, such as bones

Depends on what steel. I have for example chipped out a Dendritic 440C blade with some very light work around bones, yet a Stellite 6K blade can be intentionally cut into and torqued while in the bone. It is far more ductile and less prone to snapping (Talonite it similar). However, there are steels that can do similar and are stronger and more compression resistant as well.

Cobalt :

Cliff, I want my knife back in one piece!!

The only way to damage that blade as far as I can tell would be either (a) heavy prying, (b) really hard impacts [bash it full force off of a rock].

I thought there was a possibility of breaking it with hard wood chopping, simply because I hadn't used one in that configuration. But I spent several days with Will's blades chopping up a lot of wood (about 10 k chops with each). With no functional damage. However the blades are really light. In a full bowie profile I would be curious if the same would be true.

To tell you the truth I don't even think that (b) would actually do much based on what I have seen with my Talonite knife. However, I don't intend on trying either with your blade. I might see how mine responds to very high impacts as compared to some steel blades with Cougar is finished with it.

-Cliff

[This message has been edited by Cliff Stamp (edited 09-27-2000).]
 
I wonder if Cliff is saying that stellite performs better than talonite?
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It looks like this thread is going the way of the endless Talonite thread, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I started another thread asking who is making knives out of this Stellite. Maybe it would be good to have a thread where we can see what's out there and keep this thread for the technical/functional/theoretical/ontological/psychological debate.
We now return you to your regular program...



[This message has been edited by HJK (edited 09-27-2000).]
 
Okay, so not owning a Stellite 6K knife, but having a few Talonite knives, I know how good the Talonite works. My Tom Mayo Ultralight is a daily carry... and I HAVE used it to screw and pry (Tom, get off the floor) it did NOT hurt the blade. Allen Blade is making me a TKK in Talonite for my camp kitchen so I will post the results. For me, Talonite RULEZ!
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Wha...? I just started to get a feeling for Talonite, and now Stellite 6K is better?

Help me out, save me from doing my own research, what's the difference in expected performance between a Stellite 6K knife blade and a Talonite knife blade?

I've got a David Boye cast Stellite blade. Quacks just like Talonite to me.
 
I am going to go out on a limb here...because I dont have any scientific data or anything like that cause i grew up in the 60s and could care less....but from my personal observations....I would say that 6k is a little harder than 6bh...thus it will take and hold a little better edge but will be a little more brittle...key word.. little....there is NOT a big difference in these two materials....all this is just theory...but so is most of the stuff that Einstein thought up and people believe him, so what the heck!

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I think some folks might be missing an important fact about this thread. It is sort of a Joke. I doubt seriously that anyone really means to say that stellite is far superior to talonite. They are just different words for almost the same stuff.

Cobalt Rulz!

Paracelsus, noting the Irony in this thread
 
Oh, OK. Thanks Tom and Paracelsor.
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That's what I thought the concensus was before. Glad I didn't turn out to be off track, again.
 
Elim, it generally fares much better than the other Cobalt based alloys I have used (Talonite, forged 6BH, and Dendritic Cobalt), mainly in terms of a combination of edge resistance to rolling/denting and fracture. It is however still soft and weak compared to steels and I don't think it will fare well once the comparision to high end examples of such.

As for the alloys being "similar", well so are 1020 and 1095, 440A & 440C, etc. . Stellite 6K and Talonite are significantly different both in terms of content and in how they are processed. It does not take much of a change in either to produce a huge difference in the materials properties of the end product.

-Cliff

[This message has been edited by Cliff Stamp (edited 09-30-2000).]
 
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