Stiff Sebenza

I completely disassembled and cleaned mine, I re-lubed it with Sentry Solutions Hi-Slip Grease.

The knife is very smooth but the force of the lockbar is causing a lot of closed retention, which isn't bad. However it does take some pressure to get any movement started.

It just seems like the bar is pushing too hard and putting a lot of pressure on the detent.
 
Josh K said:
Stiff lock bars? What's with the huge complaint? Stiffer the better! :)
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Sebenzas are sopposed to be smooth and easy to open right? Well my insingo is not so. And it hurts my thumb disengaging the lock cause it's so stiff. My large regular on the other hand is super smooth and easy to open and close. It very very close to my mini griptilian as far as opening resistance. It's perfect and Just fun to play with.
 
Socom Elite said:
Sebenzas are sopposed to be smooth and easy to open right? Well my insingo is not so. And it hurts my thumb disengaging the lock cause it's so stiff. My large regular on the other hand is super smooth and easy to open and close. It very very close to my mini griptilian as far as opening resistance. It's perfect and Just fun to play with.
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I don't recall them being advertised as fun to play with.

Smooth is one thing, easy to open is subjective. You find it hard to close.

Option? Send it to CRK. As already mentioned I would not bend the lockbar.
 
I am not going to bend the bar.

And I am not sending it in either.

I don't think anything is necessarily wrong with a firm lockbar. And I suspect that over time the lockbar and detent ball will wear in and be just perfect.

I just need to give it some time.
 
5.56 said:
My small Insingo is smooth, however, it seems to have more resistance when opening than other Sebenza's I've handled. And the closed retention and lockbar are more firm.
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Any chance the clip is in contact with the lockbar, acting as a "helper" spring? I had this on a small Seb.

Another possibility, that whouldn't be a factor with an Umnu because of the low friction of the ceramic ball, but I had an old regular Seb that was a little sticky. I cleaned some grease off the tang and lockbar face and it stopped sticking. I think the lube was allowing the lockbar to engage a little too much.
 
JNewell said:
Any chance the clip is in contact with the lockbar, acting as a "helper" spring? I had this on a small Seb.
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the clip does add a tiny bit of tension. I took it off and it didn't make much of a difference.

Maybe I will just leave it be. I don't know, I just don't like sending blades back
 
Socom Elite said:
Sebenzas are sopposed to be smooth and easy to open right? Well my insingo is not so. And it hurts my thumb disengaging the lock cause it's so stiff. My large regular on the other hand is super smooth and easy to open and close. It very very close to my mini griptilian as far as opening resistance. It's perfect and Just fun to play with.
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How old is your Regular compared to your Insingo? The contact area between the dentent and the blade, between the washers and the blade should have a nice mirror polish to it by now if you use it often (referring to the Regular)? My small regular looked like a mirror due to the contact area between the washers and along the area the dentent ran. That finish due to use is what makes the knife smoother the older and more used it gets.

I compared my new Insingo to a brand new inlayed sebenza with polish blade 3 weeks ago, that polishing around the pivot and dentent made that thing SO SMOOOOOTTTHHH! The stonewash finish does give more risistance to opening, because the areas in contact have not been polished due to wear.

My advice......just use it and it will get as smooth as your regular in due time.
 
Darth Detori said:
That's the thing though- every time I reassemble it I'm positive I'm doing it right. The blade is aligned properly, I can make the washers spin if after I just barely put it into the handle (which would tell me they're not getting pinched), and even still there's a difference in action between very tight and not so tight.

If I'm doing it wrong after watching tons of videos, watching tutorials, being as careful as humanly possible, using the correct tools, then I'm not ever going to be able to detect the difference between wrong and right.

I mean, I can live with this but from everything I've heard there should be virtually no difference in action if you only have the screw BARELY in there versus snugly tight.
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ive found the pivot screw tension does affect the bushing, and it is possible to develop play if the pivot is loose. though not nearly to the extent as other designs.

when i reassemble mine, i tighten the pivot incrementally. ill get it to where it is against the scale, but not quite hand tight. ill open and close a few times to get the grease properly spread, then tighten to hand tight.

prior to doing it this way, i definitely had experiences similar to yours.
 
marthinus said:
How old is your Regular compared to your Insingo? The contact area between the dentent and the blade, between the washers and the blade should have a nice mirror polish to it by now if you use it often (referring to the Regular)? My small regular looked like a mirror due to the contact area between the washers and along the area the dentent ran. That finish due to use is what makes the knife smoother the older and more used it gets.

I compared my new Insingo to a brand new inlayed sebenza with polish blade 3 weeks ago, that polishing around the pivot and dentent made that thing SO SMOOOOOTTTHHH! The stonewash finish does give more risistance to opening, because the areas in contact have not been polished due to wear.

My advice......just use it and it will get as smooth as your regular in due time.
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I just got my lg regular and it was new when I got it. My insingo will probably get a little smoother over time, but I will say it again. It IS NOT THE WASHERS. I can hold the lock open and the BLADE SWINGS FREELY. It is the tension from the lockbar
 
Socom Elite said:
I just got my lg regular and it was new when I got it. My insingo will probably get a little smoother over time, but I will say it again. It IS NOT THE WASHERS. I can hold the lock open and the BLADE SWINGS FREELY. It is the tension from the lockbar
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As I stated it can be the area the detent ball travels on that is not polished/ broken in. I used the washers as an example for how the blade can get polished as it is the easiest place to see the effect.
 
RICKSTER said:
Try removing the pocket clip and see if the tension changes ?
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Socom Elite said:
the clip does add a tiny bit of tension. I took it off and it didn't make much of a difference.

Maybe I will just leave it be. I don't know, I just don't like sending blades back
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Yea, I have tried and it doesn't change much. I am just going to leave it the way it is. I have been EDCing this since I got it in Feb, but didn't really notice how stiff it is until I got my Lg Regular.
 
Socom Elite said:
Yea, I have tried and it doesn't change much. I am just going to leave it the way it is. I have been EDCing this since I got it in Feb, but didn't really notice how stiff it is until I got my Lg Regular.
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DAMN! I thought it was a new knife, my theory is out the window! :foot:
 
5.56 said:
I completely disassembled and cleaned mine, I re-lubed it with Sentry Solutions Hi-Slip Grease.

The knife is very smooth but the force of the lockbar is causing a lot of closed retention, which isn't bad. However it does take some pressure to get any movement started.

It just seems like the bar is pushing too hard and putting a lot of pressure on the detent.
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Maybe I will try that sentry high slip grease as I am sure I can find it at my local sporting goods store.

I think the closed retension being greater is because the newer sebenzas have a detent hole that goes all the way through the blade. Which I don't mind
 
Socom Elite said:
Maybe I will try that sentry high slip grease as I am sure I can find it at my local sporting goods store.

I think the closed retension being greater is because the newer sebenzas have a detent hole that goes all the way through the blade. Which I don't mind
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its probably the washers.




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actually, did you ever try a little oil on the detent ball?
 
marthinus said:
DAMN! I thought it was a new knife, my theory is out the window! :foot:
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me too. if lubing doesn't work, you really should send it in. I've had to send things in, and it sucks, I know, but you'll get it back. just be thankful you bought a CRK and not a Strider ;), otherwise you'd be waiting quite a while longer. you can always make the best out of it and have them do something to the knife, maybe throw on dual thumbstuds
 
I did and it seemed to help some. Also giving my thumb a 30 min break helped also.

The knife is smooth and opens pretty good. Just not as good as my LG Reg.

Thats ok, I will continue to use it and I'm sure it will only get better with time.
 
misterjuiceman said:
me too. if lubing doesn't work, you really should send it in. I've had to send things in, and it sucks, I know, but you'll get it back. just be thankful you bought a CRK and not a Strider ;), otherwise you'd be waiting quite a while longer. you can always make the best out of it and have them do something to the knife, maybe throw on dual thumbstuds
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I was thinking bout that as well. Maybe I will wait till it gets dull, then send it in and get double lug and some CRK grease.:D
 
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