Stocking up on ammo

Question. How is reloading cheaper?

I mean for stuff like .45 colt and stuff like that, yeah, I agree but maybe prices have changed but 45 ACP 7.62X25 7.62X39 and .30 M1 seemed to be cheaper to just buy in bulk than reload?
 
hollowdweller said:
Question. How is reloading cheaper?

I mean for stuff like .45 colt and stuff like that, yeah, I agree but maybe prices have changed but 45 ACP 7.62X25 7.62X39 and .30 M1 seemed to be cheaper to just buy in bulk than reload?
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I think that depends on how much you shoot.

I know people that Reload everything, but Rimfire and Shotgun Shells.
 
hollowdweller said:
Question. How is reloading cheaper?

I mean for stuff like .45 colt and stuff like that, yeah, I agree but maybe prices have changed but 45 ACP 7.62X25 7.62X39 and .30 M1 seemed to be cheaper to just buy in bulk than reload?
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They are probably closer to the breakover point down where you are, but even in bulk, commercial ammo up here costs me about 40% more than reloading, surplus military calibers excluded.

I can reload .308 with sierra bullets for something like 55 cents a round, I believe. El cheapo stuff in bulk up here costs me closer to 90 cents.

.45 ACP is even more noticeable, as I use cast lead!

But I know down in the US you guys pay less for ammo, so the difference is probably less as well. Even though I am sure you pay less for components too!
 
555 said:
I think that depends on how much you shoot.

I know people that Reload everything, but Rimfire and Shotgun Shells.
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Well what I was looking at for instance is a case of Wolf 7.62X39 is $214

That 21 cents a round.

Then the price of just the bullets FMJ 123 grain at Midway USA is 36 dollars a hundred or 36 cents for just the bullets.

Wolf .30 M1 at Sportsmans guide is $237 a case or 24 cents a round fully loaded.

The price of a 100 rounds of FMJ 110 grain bullets at midway is 28 a hundred or 28 cents just for the bullets.

Now I can see that if you want hunting rounds or something reloading is the way to go but just for plinking on some of these calibers it seems the case of ammo is more cost effective than reloading.
 
hollowdweller said:
Question. How is reloading cheaper?

I mean for stuff like .45 colt and stuff like that, yeah, I agree but maybe prices have changed but 45 ACP 7.62X25 7.62X39 and .30 M1 seemed to be cheaper to just buy in bulk than reload?
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Many of those calibers you list are cheap because they are imported. Many speculate that Obama will, by Executive Order, quickly cease all importation of ammo and firearms.

The prices you may be enjoying now for those calibers will also cease.

Evenso, it's always been cheaper to reload. If you shoot enough to pay for the reloading set up (which won't take as long as you might think) then it's worthwhile to reload.

And even if it was the same cost, you can tailor your loads to your guns for accuracy and to suit a specific task.
 
David E said:
Many of those calibers you list are cheap because they are imported. Many speculate that Obama will, by Executive Order, quickly cease all importation of ammo and firearms.

The prices you may be enjoying now for those calibers will also cease.

Evenso, it's always been cheaper to reload. If you shoot enough to pay for the reloading set up (which won't take as long as you might think) then it's worthwhile to reload.

And even if it was the same cost, you can tailor your loads to your guns for accuracy and to suit a specific task.
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I have a reloading setup. For some stuff it does make sense (Like .45 LC)


Actually I would like to see a law banning the sale of any imported firearm into the US from any country that does not allow their own citizens to own that firearm. It is really a shame so many US firearms manufacturers have gone out of business when we let guns in from countries that do not allow their citizens the right to own the guns they make.
 
hollowdweller said:
The price of a 100 rounds of FMJ 110 grain bullets at midway is 28 a hundred or 28 cents just for the bullets.

Now I can see that if you want hunting rounds or something reloading is the way to go but just for plinking on some of these calibers it seems the case of ammo is more cost effective than reloading.
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It depends where you buy your bullets, or which bullets you buy.

Midway also has 110 fmj for $11.39 per 100

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=393392

(yes, they're currently out of stock, like too many other calibers !)
 
hollowdweller said:
Well what I was looking at for instance is a case of Wolf 7.62X39 is $214

That 21 cents a round.

Then the price of just the bullets FMJ 123 grain at Midway USA is 36 dollars a hundred or 36 cents for just the bullets.

Wolf .30 M1 at Sportsmans guide is $237 a case or 24 cents a round fully loaded.

The price of a 100 rounds of FMJ 110 grain bullets at midway is 28 a hundred or 28 cents just for the bullets.

Now I can see that if you want hunting rounds or something reloading is the way to go but just for plinking on some of these calibers it seems the case of ammo is more cost effective than reloading.
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The way they get lower prices is, they buy in late winter/ early spring for the year. They also work together, 7 to 8 people order at the same time to save on the Haz Mat shipping costs.
 
555 said:
The way they get lower prices is, they buy in late winter/ early spring for the year. They also work together, 7 to 8 people order at the same time to save on the Haz Mat shipping costs.
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Thanks for the tip!:thumbup:
 
hollowdweller said:
I have a reloading setup. For some stuff it does make sense (Like .45 LC)


Actually I would like to see a law banning the sale of any imported firearm into the US from any country that does not allow their own citizens to own that firearm. It is really a shame so many US firearms manufacturers have gone out of business when we let guns in from countries that do not allow their citizens the right to own the guns they make.
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Good point.
 
Actually I would like to see a law banning the sale of any imported firearm into the US from any country that does not allow their own citizens to own that firearm. It is really a shame so many US firearms manufacturers have gone out of business when we let guns in from countries that do not allow their citizens the right to own the guns they make.[/QUOTE said:
That would be very like cutting one's nose off to spite one's face, would it not?
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I saw it on here before somewher, does Ammo really have a shelf life?

Around 4-5 years ago my dad and I bought tons of ammo for a good price incase we would ever need it. I have recently tested a few of the rounds and everything seemed ok, but a few people had told me they must have been newer ones accidently mized in because the shelf life of ammo.
 
TheGame said:
I saw it on here before somewher, does Ammo really have a shelf life?
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In general, not really. This is especially true with properly sealed milsurp. Any fresh ammo that is properly stored (i.e. dry and relatively temperature-stable) will last a long time. I am working off a pile of 7.62 from the 60's and it performs fine.

The time to stock up economically has passed for now. The panic buying is what is keeping the price up in my opinion. The underlying metals have dropped like a rock. Once the panic buying subsides, I suspect the prices will subside. New taxes however...who knows.

The only ammo I feel at risk is .50BMG, and this is the stock I am building. 5.7mm and imported rounds could be at risk, but I think this is less likely.
 
rctk1 said:
http://www.nrapublications.org/oj/nobullets.html How many of you are planning on stock piling ammunition in the event that the new bill kicks into place? I am already in the process of purchasing a Mini14 and probably an AR cause the prices of these guns are surely going to go sky high after Obama reanacts the Assualt Gun Ban. I hate Fu$$$ people that tamper with my rights!:mad:
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Obama be foolish to have a gun ban, on his plate with all the crap thats going on right now, besides he thinking of re election. I wouldn't stalk up on ammo, i would learn how to load, if a true ban was coming down the pike.
 
Yea, that is what I thought. He apparently heard it from someone he thought knew everything about guns and ammo, so he assumed it was true.

I didn't believe it because I shot some rounds that my grandpa used from back when he was in the Air Force.
 
hollowdweller said:
Actually I would like to see a law banning the sale of any imported firearm into the US from any country that does not allow their own citizens to own that firearm. It is really a shame so many US firearms manufacturers have gone out of business when we let guns in from countries that do not allow their citizens the right to own the guns they make.
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American gun companies go out of business for a variety of reasons but the mere importation of any foreign firearm is not one of them.

I am thankful we (still) have the opportunity to choose from a vast assortment of quality firearms made outside of the United States.

"Buy American" is great for many things but the USA has not been the end all and be all of the firearms industry for decades and unfortunately (or fortunately), there are many, many imported firearms that are superior to those made here.

As for countries not allowing their citizens to own guns; maybe they should draft and/or adopt a constitution just as WE did.
 
Leighman said:
American gun companies go out of business for a variety of reasons but the mere importation of any foreign firearm is not one of them.

I am thankful we (still) have the opportunity to choose from a vast assortment of quality firearms made outside of the United States.

"Buy American" is great for many things but the USA has not been the end all and be all of the firearms industry for decades and unfortunately (or fortunately), there are many, many imported firearms that are superior to those made here.

As for countries not allowing their citizens to own guns; maybe they should draft and/or adopt a constitution just as WE did.
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I have my share of guns from foreign countries but I'm not a free trader so losing that option would not bother me. Would open up a market for US companies to fill. They sure need them.
 
hollowdweller said:
I have my share of guns from foreign countries but I'm not a free trader so losing that option would not bother me. Would open up a market for US companies to fill. They sure need them.
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Agreed....to an extent.

In 35+ years of shooting, I have seen a dramatic decrease in quality from domestic manufacturers.

Take Colt for example. They once catered to their customers and offered designs that people actually wanted. No more. If not for their military contracts, a few 1911's, and Single Action Armys, they would have already closed up shop for good.

S&W once made some of the best wheelguns available. Fit and finish in the last 20 years has been spotty at best.

It's really a shame but a big part of it has to do with the apparent demise of the American work ethic.

My Italian Berettas are superior (fit and finish-wise) to those made here, the same goes for my SIGs.

I'm all for buying American....just as long as the quality is equal to or better than imported firearms.
 
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