stolen knife notice

[cckw]

A good collectors insurance policy covers loss in shipping either direction. I know of one such company. I don't have their info at hand PM me if you want it.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

I most always use a box, it seems when a padded envelope is used there is always a rip in it and sometime the contents are gone, I like to bubble wrap the contents and then tape them to the inside of box and use newspaper or packing for filler. I then tape all seams and edges of outside of box and put clear tape over my return address and the address i'm shipping to.

That kind of procedure is good insurance in itself.
it's called hardening the target.

 

[postfallsidaho]

Wrap the knife and put it in its box. Wrap the box around and around with crumbled newspaper and plastic grocery bags (for waterproofing) and taple all around that. Fill the outer mailing box with crumpled paper and plastic tightly enough that when it's closed, you can shake it in every direction and not hear or feel anything move.

A thief cannot get to the contents without actually opening the whole box, and the sorting process, manual and machine, will not knock the contents out even if the machines might tear the outer box.

One more safety check: After you wrap the knife box but before you put it in the outer box with filler all around, tape to it a label FROM your name & address TO your destination's name & address. Now if the outer label is damaged, the lost & found can retrieve the information and send it on its way.

Excellent ideas as well! I like the plastic bag idea for waterproofing!
I did have a UPS package delivered once, the seal in the rear door of his truck was shot, and he delivered in the pouring rain. UPS did cover the contents though!

 

[chickentrax]

I had a rifle barrel sent to me in a hard carboard box filled with shipping peanuts. When I received it, there was a neat 1" hole in one end...and no barrel...

Now, I always request "no shipping peanuts". They don't stop anything from punching its way out if dropped. :grumpy:

 

[seaplane]

My local post office has accepted a print out from where I sold something online onetime.If you have sent an item to someone and it was insured, you could print out your for sale post for the proof of value. The person you sent it to has to fill out forms on their end and then it gets sent to your post office and you fill out your info. The postmaster files it and in a few weeks, You will be reimbursed. It takes time, But I have had to do it a couple of times. Good luck with it!

 

[mtarnold5]

Very good advice ESAV......I will be sure I take extra precautions going forward. I have sent several high end knives out and have been lucky they have all arrived without incident. I think sometimes I take for granted that everyone is just honest. By the way I just received my AG Stag 110, there was a hole in the box, but thankfully my knife was still in there. I hope everything works out for you Dave.

Take care, Mike Arnold

 

[bucksway]

The next time i go to the PO Ill get there 'fact sheet' on insuring,claims ect...I like fedx best...I didnt think you had to 'prove' you wraped good.....

 

[Esav Benyamin]

You should HAVE to wrap it up real well. Chickentrax may have been the victim of theft but just as likely of an accident. When you show the torn box, it helps to show how diligently it was packed.

The post office is obligated to deliver that torn box, but the carrier is supposed to deliver it personally with an explanation "damaged in transit" not just a rubber stamp left for you to find sitting out in the rain.

 

[110 Dave]

Esav and others are right >>>pack securely so things wont move ..
that there was not ins on the box is true but had a mistake not been made there would be issues any way!!!
per what post office told me you have to show it was properly packed before any damage claim will be honored.
postfalls has said that packing is important ! as have others have also
and now i learn the hard way jest how important it is..
as i said in first post edit to me there are signs to me of tamper with some of what was in the box ..
could it have come out then been put back?
well yes but missing label tape ...
i have shipped 50+ knives with value of over 5 tho through the post office with no issues
before and will again but ins is expensive for that much..
and i should have packed these as well as i did the others !
i will tell you the post office here is not inclined to be forth coming on claims

seaplain- i have had two knives in two years with ins and dilivery comp not be paid for as they showed delivered! also two other knives did not arrive..
this is first time i sent knives and had issue..

they told me all small valuable items should be sig required or ins for over 201$ at which time sig is required

it is my feeling that had i had ins or tracking or any thing on the box
were every one that handles the box would have scan it so there would be some accountability
there would not have been the damage that there was, or any thing missing.. in other words
""hay there is nothing to show i handled the box so heck i dont care if it is damaged.. ""
i am sure that most the postal employees are good workers
like at the VA hospital, most are there because they want to do a good job
but that to some a good job is jest showing up that day..

the main reason i posted was in case any one seen some for sale with out box's
but i forgot i (also) have sold one of these with out the box my self..
but with only two hundred or so of them around there can not be that many with out boxes..


in another thread i have asked of any one else having issues with post office ..
but it did not generate such good idea's as i seen here in this one..

 

[bucksway]

Is UPS, Fed-X insurance claims better/easer for us to collect than USPO???

 

[Sithus1966]

I remember reading where one knife maker shipped his knives in sealed PVC pipes. He would glue caps on the ends and tell the buyer over the phone what end to cut off so as to not cut the knife and just get packing material.

 

[THE_LONGBOW]

Is UPS, Fed-X insurance claims better/easer for us to collect than USPO???

Fedex and UPS both require items to be properly packed IE double boxed
they have been known to send inspectors out to check your packings if damaged
the cost is more however I have found they are fair on claims and tracking is better.
If you receive a damaged item be sure to save all packing materials.
on a claim I had email pics of box and pics of simalar item ( to prove value it was one of a kind)to receive settlement
however they had already noted damage to box

 

[bucksway]

I just googled USPO insurance.....Thousands of nightmare storys!!!!!!!!! At UPS many claims were denied even being packed at a UPS store! I understand the RAGE many rippedoff folks feel... Look yourself...If I send/recive a expensive item registered mail is the way I'll go[A jewler who ships expensive items says they just dont lose them..they stay locked up ] E;bay has a shipping forum 'unoffical' thats worth looking at.. The gist I got was most insurance from all the shipping companys was expensive and valid claims were routinley denied...

 

[338375]

Not only is the insurance a rip-off, lately Priority has been too...
I used to send everything Priority so people would get their stuff sooner, I know how hard it is waiting for something. The last time I used Priority, it took 8 days from Oregon to Texas ...
So I started sending everything first class, it usually makes it across country in 3-4 days.

 

[110 Dave]

well short of delivering it our selves what else do we have ?

again this has become a great discussion and a
expensive learning experience for me on shipping ..
packing and labeling and records seem to be the key..

 

[DarrylS]

So I started sending everything first class, it usually makes it across country in 3-4 days.

...Just curious...How would one send, for example, a Buck 110 with box and papers and the box and tape it's packaged in using first class mail?...The first class cutoff is 13 ounces total and a 110 with box, papers, etc will weigh in at more than 13 ounces...

 

[mduf]

I was sending a knife to the Buck factory to get the blade tightened. I wrote out Buck Knives on the address and the Postmaster asked me if it was a knife. Told him yes and he said it was illegal for me to send one by US mail. He said knives could be sent under certain circumstances. Don't remember exactly what he said, something like dealer to dealer. I wrote BKI on the address and sent it from a different PO. Might be hard to make an insurance claim if you weren't supposed to be shipping it at all. Buck does send me knives in the mail, as have others. Just something to consider when you send knives in the US Mail.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

I wrote out Buck Knives on the address and the Postmaster asked me if it was a knife. Told him yes and he said it was illegal for me to send one by US mail. He said knives could be sent under certain circumstances. Don't remember exactly what he said, something like dealer to dealer.

The postmaster is an idiot. You cannot send autos through the mail but ordinary knives are fine. Just wrap them thoroughly so they don't present a hazard to postal workers by breaking through the box.

Probably best not to specify what's in it with all the idiots running around. Knife companies seem to be limiting exposure to theft by using initials rather than full names in mailing addresses.

 

[110 Dave]

The postmaster is an idiot. You cannot send autos through the mail but ordinary knives are fine. Just wrap them thoroughly so they don't present a hazard to postal workers by breaking through the box.

Probably best not to specify what's in it with all the idiots running around. Knife companies seem to be limiting exposure to theft by using initials rather than full names in mailing addresses.

yes buck has for years tolod customeers to ship to BKI or BK Inc.
and not to buck knives
packages from them have "Tamper Proof " tape around all flaps..
side note :
my postman came out of the truck with two boxes to the door today !
he knows i get knives in and
now if he sees both cars here he brings them up..
it is his sub that wont do that..

 

[postfallsidaho]

...Just curious...How would one send, for example, a Buck 110 with box and papers and the box and tape it's packaged in using first class mail?...The first class cutoff is 13 ounces total and a 110 with box, papers, etc will weigh in at more than 13 ounces...

You have to send it Priority or Parcel post. No first class on 110's!