Story of my very first knives

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So I started out here a few months ago asking if anyone would be willing to show me the ropes of knife making. A month or so passed and I got several offers from nice guys but I didn't want to travel more than an hour to meet someone. I figured there had to be someone in the Waco area. A while went by and then Jim McGuinn responded and I found out he lives less than 2 minutes from me!

Well we got together right away and before I knew it I had a bar of CPM154, a few handle scales, some spacers and pins and, with Jim's tools, everything I needed to make some knives! Some credit is definitely due to Stan Buzek as he came through in a pinch and gave me detailed instructions for how to heat treat cpm154 over the phone one night. I hope I don't sound too vain by saying I am pretty proud of these. That being said, most of the credit is due to Jim and Mr. Buzek and Blade Forums for all the help. The HT could probably use some slight adjustment but we achieved a final hardness of hrc 59.

This one started out as a design for myself. I thought I wanted a blade like this, but after doing the next two, it lost a lot of it's appeal to me. The grinding was left way too coarse before HT, thus the prominent grind marks. The handles are neoprene scales that were given to me and I'm not crazy about the way that they worked- I actually shaped most of this handle one night whittling at it with an xacto knife. All the sanding methods I used, except for on Jim's ginder with a fine grit belt make the stuff look funny. It also drives me crazy how the grind for the pointer finger got so close to the first pin. If I can find someone with the tool, I may try to flare the copper tubes I used as pins.

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This next one has TerroTuf scales and I gave it to my cousin's husband at their wedding this last weekend. He's an Army EOD stationed at Fort Hood. I told him the only string attached was that he had to show it off to all his buddies. I figure I'll get some referrals out of the deal.

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This last one is done with Resin Wood Cocobolo scales. This was my favorite and went fast to a friend as a gift to his dad. His dad is actually the Dr. that delivered both of my daughters- the last one being born just a couple weeks ago on 12/17.

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So I made some money on these and have my next batch of materials ordered. I have one request from my cousin for a fillet knife in cpm154 (advice welcome) and another from a local guy for a couple small knives similar to the second two here. I also got a bunch of knife making supplies from a nice local guy that he never got around to using. That deal got me a bunch of files, including a couple of Nicholsons, a few of which are already started into blades; some brass rods and tubes; 8" bars of 1095, 1084, and 52100; 2 12" bars of o1; and two big pieces of micarta the guy made himself. Jim showed me the 1x30 HF grinder that he modified for someone on here and I got one the next weekend. With Jim's magic worked on it, that's what I plan to use for the stock removal on this next batch. I'm excited to do some work with Carbon Steel! I really want to try my hand on creating some Hamons.

Any feedback is welcome!

I am neurotically perfectionistic so I am all about the small details. All the kydex sheaths I've made scratch the blades and that drives me crazy. I put at least 3 layers of blue masking tape on each blade hoping to make enough space but it doesn't seem to make that much of a difference. I'm all about hard using my blades but there's nothing like spending hours sanding and polishing a knife and then slipping it into the sheath and pulling it out with scratches up and down the blade. :barf: For this reason, I am going to a local saddlery this weekend to get some leather scraps and starting my adventure into leather work. I wanted Kydex to work as I love the utility and tight hold. I've read extensively here on BF on this issue but any and all advice is welcome.

This has been a craft I have been fascinated with for many years and am over-the-top excited to finally be making my way into.
 
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You can linenkydex with microsuede. Its easy to do and cheap. Look at a good kydex holster, its lined. Safariland is a good example.

I like the blades man, especially that third one.. that's sexy.

Cheers!
 
Making Kydex sheaths have a few tricks not necessarily easily found.

3 layers of tape is fine...but then you squeeze it even tighter when you install the eyelets and get scratches. So while the knife has the tape on and is in the sheath take out your heat gun and run it over the sheath to get it to expand just a bit and give you the clearance you need.

Be sure to rinse it will under the tap to remove debris and then let it dry out.
 
Lanse, a word to the wise:

It's clear you are frustrated. You might want to take a few breaths and calm yourself before making angry posts about the rules.

With any set of rules worth enforcing there is always some degree of lattitude for the enforcers to use in determining a reasonable solution. It's not a sign of a bad rule to have that lattitude, and you would be wise to accept it rather than insist everything be absolutely spelled out in black and white. The lines aren't going to always be visible. Some things have to be left to the discretion of moderators annd administrators.

That said, there is a thread in the stickies saying "If you are a knifemaker, then be a Knifemaker." Read that thread for clarity. It tells you why you ran afoul of the rules.
 
One knife I had modified I put a blue liner, made a blue kydex sheath and used matching blue braided cord for the hanger. Color coordinated !!
 
Thanks tryppyr. I'll look into that. I wanted to see how much benefit I could actually get from this as a knifemaker before I forked out $75 to get all the benefits. I thought I read the necessary rules prior to this and knew I could not sell my knives on here-- That's why I didn't offer them for sale. I didn't really get agitated until I couldn't post my reply anywhere. Then I started getting pretty red.

I get that the moderators need some lattitude. However, am I ridiculous for asking for clarification in order to avoid breaking the rules in the future? If I don't know my boundaries, how am I to be expected to not overstep them?
 
Of course you aren't ridiculous for wanting to know the boundaries. I'm just suggesting it's not always possible to spell them out in explicit detail. Mostly, once you understand the intent of the rule you can deduce where the boundaries are. That's why I pointed you to the other thread. It does a pretty good job of explaining the intent.
 
You can linenkydex with microsuede. Its easy to do and cheap. Look at a good kydex holster, its lined. Safariland is a good example.

I like the blades man, especially that third one.. that's sexy.

Cheers!

Thanks so much the feedback! Notice the blade is sanded pretty heavily lengthwise to try to disguise the scratches.

A couple of questions:

Could I affix the microsuede to the kydex with spray glue like what's used on upholstery? Of course that would have to be done before heating and press-shaping the kydex to the blade- does the microsuede and glue hold up to that just fine? I forsee complications there.
 
Making Kydex sheaths have a few tricks not necessarily easily found.

3 layers of tape is fine...but then you squeeze it even tighter when you install the eyelets and get scratches. So while the knife has the tape on and is in the sheath take out your heat gun and run it over the sheath to get it to expand just a bit and give you the clearance you need.

Be sure to rinse it will under the tap to remove debris and then let it dry out.

Thanks so much for the advice! I don't have a heat gun but I guess I should look into one. When I do, are you suggesting I do the heating before placing the eyelets? If you don't mind give some more details on this process. Do I just wave the gun back and forth a few times on each side until I see it loosening a bit or what?

Also, can someone show me how to post multiple quotes in one reply?
 
Also, can someone show me how to post multiple quotes in one reply?

In the bottom right of the post beside the other quote buttons, click that button with the plus sign in all the posts you wish to refer to.
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then reply with quote to the last one.
 
In the bottom right of the post beside the other quote buttons, click that button with the plus sign in all the posts you wish to refer to.
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then reply with quote to the last one.

Thanks 12345678910!

I think I'm still doing something wrong.

First I hit the little quote button with the plus and the plus changes to a check. I did that on the last two messages just to test.
Second, I scroll down to the quick reply space (noticing no quotes appear there but assuming they will when I hit submit) and then I posted a test reply.

No Dice.

I try again and do step 1 from above and then hit the quote button (last format option above the quick reply field) and put in a test reply.

Still no Dice.

What am I missing? And then how do designate what quote I'm replying to if they don't appear prior to typing my replies in. I would like to have the quote, then type the reply, then the next quote with its reply following it, etc.
 
TEST POST: Is this what you mean?

Thanks 12345678910!

I think I'm still doing something wrong.

First I hit the little quote button with the plus and the plus changes to a check. I did that on the last two messages just to test.
Second, I scroll down to the quick reply space (noticing no quotes appear there but assuming they will when I hit submit) and then I posted a test reply.

No Dice.

I try again and do step 1 from above and then hit the quote button (last format option above the quick reply field) and put in a test reply.

Still no Dice.

What am I missing? And then how do designate what quote I'm replying to if they don't appear prior to typing my replies in. I would like to have the quote, then type the reply, then the next quote with its reply following it, etc.

On the last post that you want to quote, don't click the "+" button, click the "Reply With Quote" button. The quotes should appear in order within the Quick Reply box.

BTW, very nice work. I'm really digging the last one.
 
Turbo dog is off to a great start! I don't want to give him the " big head" but how many of us can say our first three knives looked this good.
 
Turbo... I tried to PM you back but it says your box is full...

What you are looking for I posted over in the gallery...
 
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