Straighten me out on Boker knives

[brownshoe]

The "440A" etched on the blades is a fair indicator it isn't 440C.
Like I said before: "If you or anyone else want to buy a new Boker, go for it. Just don't expect service after the sale, if it's needed."
Even Rough Ryder and BTI Schrade (that pretty much "everyone" bad-mouths because of COO and "low price so they can't be any good") which cost a heck of a lot less than Boker plus and Boer Magnum, answer email, and stand behind their product.
The bail came of my BTI Schrade/Old Timer 23OT 4 blade scout knife. They replaced it no problems/no hassle/no postage due.

If you go to the Boker manufacturer's sub-forum here, (run and managed by Boker) you'll see I'm not the only one they ignore.
Most, if not all questions are answered by consumers, not Boker.
Boker can kiss my Heineken; I'll never buy another new one, and the vintage "Tree Brand" are out of my budget so I'll not be buying one of them, either.

In your first post, you said Boker sells blades as 440C that are really 440A. I guess you're retracting that statement.

Boker's not the only company who ignores Bladeforums, so does Chris Reeve Knives.

 

[Corso]

Strictly speaking, Böker USA ceased trading c 1983. Its name was bought up by the parent company in Germany and began again in 1986 but wholly owned by the German founder. I think it has only about 20 employees and think it produces mainly Modern or Tactical type knives? Böker USA Traditionals are long gone.

As for the EU don't think so. It's difficult to buy German made Böker Traditionals in Germany I hear from my collector friends there. i can buy them here in Finland so it's not an EU thing but they do come via USA More like obsessive anti-knife owning laws in many EU countries, most particularly in ex EU member Britain

What makes you say the American Bökers were so much better than the German ones then?

Here in England tradititonal Boker means Magnum/Boker Plus junk - i.e over priced Rough Riders

I've asked suppliers here several times if they can get me various tradititonal Boker USA knives to be told headquarters won't let them import them - Presumably to protect German workers jobs...

now we are out of the EU I bet they will want our cash where ever they can get it.

As for anti-knife laws

Ours are odd but we are one of the few countiries in the world where owning and carrying a small folding knife, where ever or when ever is protected in law

 

[Wild Ben]

Me? I'll stick with the old ones!

 

[Bastler]

Boker USA with a German friend. As I understand it, Boker USA was a separate entity from Böker in Solingen.

 

[Will Power]

Bastler That's my understanding as well, and as I posted earlier, it wound-up and then got taken back into operation by Böker Solingen. iI has a small work force and I think it concentrates on more Modern type knives NOT Traditionals. These are the preserve of German and Chinese manufacturing in various guises.

 

[Will Power]

Here in England tradititonal Boker means Magnum/Boker Plus junk - i.e over priced Rough Riders

I've asked suppliers here several times if they can get me various tradititonal Boker USA knives to be told headquarters won't let them import them - Presumably to protect German workers jobs...

now we are out of the EU I bet they will want our cash where ever they can get it.

As for anti-knife laws

Ours are odd but we are one of the few countiries in the world where owning and carrying a small folding knife, where ever or when ever is protected in law

Böker USA does not make Traditional type knives anymore and has not for some considerable time. The Traditionals you are trying to get are either made in Solingen or Chinese made Bökers, the EU and USA have been having a hissy fit trade 'war' recently which has resulted in tariffs and restrictions being placed on selected goods, it may or may not last. CASE has not long ago placed a prohibition on its dealers selling knives outside the USA, doubtless part of this absurd trade war posturing.

e-bay.uk as you doubtless know, forbids any selling of knives (weapons all) so a Briton has to go to e-bay.com, eBay.fr, eBay.de, eBay.it etc etc to obtain knives such is your country's absurd paranoia about knife ownership. Possibly illegal to import knives even? As for the law protecting the carrying of a knife, (is that Scottish law or English/Welsh law??) Good luck with that when a copper demands you have 'good reason to carry' a tiny non locking knife (Opinels illegal then?) add to that a media seemingly obsessed with knife crime and knife carry ergo these are connected evils. I rather doubt the Germans are especially desperate for your cash when the Euro / Pound Exchange rate 5 years ago was around 1.45€ whereas now it's 1.10€, a significant decline.

Böker Germany knives were until recently, something of a bargain if you ere able to get them on the Bay or direct from USA dealers to the EU , that's changed due to these tariffs and tit for tat actions. As knife collectors/users we all lose.

 

[Corso]

Possibly illegal to import knives even? As for the law protecting the carrying of a knife, (is that Scottish law or English/Welsh law??) Good luck with that when a copper demands you have 'good reason to carry' a tiny non locking knife (Opinels illegal then?) add to that a media seemingly obsessed with knife crime and knife carry ergo these are connected evils. I rather doubt the Germans are especially desperate for your cash when the Euro / Pound Exchange rate 5 years ago was around 1.45€ whereas now it's 1.10€, a significant decline.

I am guessing you aren't remotely interested in UK knife law - but your very statement has mixed up several laws and managed to get them all wrong at the same time. probably never met a Copper either - I've never had an issue in 40+ years.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to the excahnge rate of self inflated economies either - the EU is broke and needs our Money to prop up the countries that can't pay them back...

 

[Peregrin]

Politics belong elsewhere, gents. Thanks!

 

[Will Power]

OK, apologies about the diatribe.

Here's something all can readily agree upon, very decent jigging on this Solingen made Copperhead. Thick slabs and deep cuts, known as Grand Canyon Bone. Ignore the Schatt knife box

 

[Eabbey]

I know this is an old thread, but I just bought a Boker Tree Brand knife for which the box says "Made In Germany" and it has the Boker Tree shield (which says "Germany") on the scale, but does not say Solingen on the blade. Best as I can determine, the previous post is dead on--this knife was assembled in German from parts made elsewhere. Also, I have to say, the quality of my new knife is well below the quality of my other Boker that has Solingen printed on the blade tang. I am observing knife makers trying to obscure Chinese parts or manufacturing, but Boker is doing something odd here.

For anyone interested, this is model # 110273BB, the two-bladed hunter.

To provide context, I am very happy with several Chinese-made traditional pattern knives. The C. Risner brand Ohio River Jack is made by QSP, which is Chinese. The fit and finish on that knife is off the charts. And, of course, J.E. Made knives are very good, too. Granted, these are knives that are well my expensive than my Boker Tree purchase. That said, I recently purchased a Rose Craft traditional slip joint design for about $55 that is miles ahead of this Boker in terms of fit, finish, blade grind, etc.

 

[Chui]

............unless you're paying "well", this knifey world of ours can be a bit of a lottery, whichever brand it is..! Even then it can sometimes bite you in the bum

Am sure many of us have stories and examples of this, and that, to tell.

Recently I felt particularly peeved - following assisting a guy who was retiring+unwell to sell, through me, a number of high-end folders, he gifted me a 300-layer Boker Damast lockback, very kind of him indeed. Sadly, it is appalling, should never have left the factory - I have, as one example, a better quality Boker Plus lockback from 10yrs ago. But, there ya go........