Strider fakes!

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newcoyote said:
So what do these fakes use for frame material. I can see the blade steel being tricky to positively ID but titanium is easier with spark testing or anodizing. I doubt a fake would use titanium?
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The videos and sale links all say titanium alloy TC4 + G10.
 
newcoyote said:
So what do these fakes use for frame material. I can see the blade steel being tricky to positively ID but titanium is easier with spark testing or anodizing. I doubt a fake would use titanium?
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Titanium isn't *that* expensive to get or machine. There are quite a few knives made by larger makers that have titanium framelocks or even full titanium handles with lockbacks that cost significantly less than the knives being shown. The Boker Titan, Anti-MC and Kubasek Production knives all come to mind. The CRKT Eros and M16 Titanium knives. The Benchmade Pika Titanium, Nitrous Stryer and Nagara series knives.
 
like em sharp said:
Titanium isn't *that* expensive to get or machine. There are quite a few knives made by larger makers that have titanium framelocks or even full titanium handles with lockbacks that cost significantly less than the knives being shown. The Boker Titan, Anti-MC and Kubasek Production knives all come to mind. The CRKT Eros and M16 Titanium knives. The Benchmade Pika Titanium, Nitrous Stryer and Nagara series knives.
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dont forget the Buck Mayo

well my dad's cousin is a chinese translator who lives in shengdu, so if ya'll really wanted to we can put a pool together and make it a permanent passaround here lol :P
 
brets-ftw said:
dont forget the Buck Mayo

well my dad's cousin is a chinese translator who lives in shengdu, so if ya'll really wanted to we can put a pool together and make it a permanent passaround here lol :P
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wonder how much they go for within china? I know when I was there stuff you see on ebay for a 20 will go for 5 in china.
 
Robert.B said:
wonder how much they go for within china? I know when I was there stuff you see on ebay for a 20 will go for 5 in china.
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No Idea, I can ask my her (dad's cousin) to see if she can find one, maybe haggle the price down a little to help save for shipping
 
Here it goes...

I'm going to go on record and say I would buy one of these fakes. i can't afford a strider at the prices they are going for only to find out it might not be the knife for me. If I could score a fake for less than $100 and try out the ergos then I may or may not relaize that I should save for the real thing.

I know my purchase would only encourage more fakes being produced but hey,that's how I feel. I don't agree with copying someone elses ideas and designs but a fake might turn someone on to the real deal.


Go easy on me.........
 
houtex said:
Here it goes...

I'm going to go on record and say I would buy one of these fakes. i can't afford a strider at the prices they are going for only to find out it might not be the knife for me. If I could score a fake for less than $100 and try out the ergos then I may or may not relaize that I should save for the real thing.

I know my purchase would only encourage more fakes being produced but hey,that's how I feel. I don't agree with copying someone elses ideas and designs but a fake might turn someone on to the real deal.


Go easy on me.........
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I'd buy one as well. But I think $150 for a fake is way too much. If it were $50 I'd give it a shot before I dropped $400 on the real deal.
 
Fakes are fakes. If the knife looks like a Strider and has "Strider" stamped on it but is made in China it's a fake. Whether it's being passed off as real or clearly advertised as fake it's still a fake and is fraudulent and not acceptable. If you absolutely have to have a Strider (or a Rolex or an iPhone) man up, save up the money and buy the real thing. If you can't hack that program go buy an "homage", something very similar but not illegally branded. I have my own very strong feelings about the company and don't particularly care for the knives (yes, I've owned them) but that's not the issue here.
 
Colog said:
Explain please. This is not consistent with what I've read. Perhaps I'm ignorant.
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I suggest reading more. It's in one of the photos linked in Spark's Strider thread. It says "Infantry" or "Infantryman" from (IIRC) May to November of 1986 or something like that.

houtex said:
Here it goes...

I'm going to go on record and say I would buy one of these fakes. i can't afford a strider at the prices they are going for only to find out it might not be the knife for me. If I could score a fake for less than $100 and try out the ergos then I may or may not relaize that I should save for the real thing.

I know my purchase would only encourage more fakes being produced but hey,that's how I feel. I don't agree with copying someone elses ideas and designs but a fake might turn someone on to the real deal.


Go easy on me.........
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You could buy a real one and sell if if you don't like it and be out less than if you bought a fake, easily.


Modoc ED said:
No, you're not ignorant. Most of that 6-months was bad time.
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Define "bad time"


GronK said:
Fakes are fakes. If the knife looks like a Strider and has "Strider" stamped on it but is made in China it's a fake. Whether it's being passed off as real or clearly advertised as fake it's still a fake and is fraudulent and not acceptable. If you absolutely have to have a Strider (or a Rolex or an iPhone) man up, save up the money and buy the real thing. If you can't hack that program go buy an "homage", something very similar but not illegally branded. I have my own very strong feelings about the company and don't particularly care for the knives (yes, I've owned them) but that's not the issue here.
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Exactly
 
I would buy one of these fakes if I were considering taking the plunge on a real Strider, to play with the ergos etc..., and simply resell it when the real deal came, or sell it if I didn't like it and didn't want to to 'man up'.
 
Turbo Tension said:
I would buy one of these fakes if I were considering taking the plunge on a real Strider, to play with the ergos etc..., and simply resell it when the real deal came, or sell it if I didn't like it and didn't want to to 'man up'.
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Hey, good idea! Then, since you're already putting your money into the hands of those who are defrauding an American manufacturer you can resell it as "real" when the time comes and pocket the profit! All's fair in love war and marketing!
 
GronK said:
Hey, good idea! Then, since you're already putting your money into the hands of those who are defrauding an American manufacturer you can resell it as "real" when the time comes and pocket the profit! All's fair in love war and marketing!
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So... people who steal designs vs. someone known to have lied repeatedly about military service and a convicted criminal.

Well, the first ones at least charge you less.

/ducks head
 
00ChevyScott said:
I'd buy one as well. But I think $150 for a fake is way too much. If it were $50 I'd give it a shot before I dropped $400 on the real deal.
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The knockoff is not going to give you an impression of the real deal - only what it looks like.
Don't waste your money, and don't support companies like this
 
After I get a better camera I'll probably be ordering one and breaking it down to compare with my strider. These fakes are a lot harder to tell than the sebenza fake so hopefully we'll see more differences that we can look out for once broken down or macro shots are taken.

Although it would be great if Strider compiled all the info and made a guideline to differentiate them from the real deal kinda like Emerson does.
 
like em sharp said:
So... people who steal designs vs. someone known to have lied repeatedly about military service and a convicted criminal.

Well, the first ones at least charge you less.

/ducks head
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No reason to duck here. As an honest veteran who spent a couple of years under the gun way back before they invented yellow ribbons I have strong opinions about stolen valor. It just happens that this thread is about fake knives not military histories. Besides, it's not about stolen designs but a copy with the original designer's logo on it. That makes it a fake.
 
Not gonna sugar coat my opinion on this, I'd buy a fake Strider if it was half the knife of the real one, for a quarter of the price. What would you pay for a knife made with G10, Titanium, 440C, that looks almost exactly like a Strider? $100? Sounds like a deal.
 
gooeytek said:
Not gonna sugar coat my opinion on this, I'd buy a fake Strider if it was half the knife of the real one, for a quarter of the price. What would you pay for a knife made with G10, Titanium, 440C, that looks almost exactly like a Strider? $100? Sounds like a deal.
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Sooooo. . . . you'll risk $100 believing this known fake really is made of G10, 440C and Titanium? I've got a bridge to sell you! It looks just like the Golden Gate.
 
GronK said:
Sooooo. . . . you'll risk $100 believing this known fake really is made of G10, 440C and Titanium? I've got a bridge to sell you! It looks just like the Golden Gate.
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If it performs like a bridge, and it takes me across to where I need to go and if the price is right, why not? You can get a knife with real G10, Titanium, and decent steel for under $100, why does a real Strider have to cost $400? In the end, if it cuts well, the ergos are good, and the design is sound, that means its a decent knife, right?
 
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